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CK_GoldenNuggets, on 27 November 2018 - 06:48 PM, said:

I had an idea to compile all the alpha damages from all the tanks in the game and compare them to respective premium alpha damage values. 
Thanks to Fishy_ for the idea.
With some help from Maverick, here is the list of damage values and % reduction in alpha for all tanks tier 6 - 10
There is also some other info about the number of tanks in game on the side.

https://docs.google....dit?usp=sharing

 

 

I_Maverick_I, on 27 November 2018 - 07:24 PM, said:

Interesting Notes section added

So far this is what we got:

- Almost all tanks have a -14% to 16% damage loss when using premium ammunition, with the exception of the Chieftain Mk. 6 at -10%, and the WZ-113 at -7.5%

- The Lttb (Tier 7 Russian Light) has the most damage loss with premium shells, with a -20% loss
- List of tanks that have guns with premium shells that gain damage and lose penetration compared to their standard shells: FV4202, FV215b 183, Centurion 7/1, ISU-130, T49, Tankenstein, T49 A, SU-100Y

- Current issue with update 5.5 there is one tank that has its premium shells increase its DPM, the M7 (Tier 4 American Medium). No idea if this was intended

- Tanks that do not have a premium shell offered on the top/popular gun: St. Emil (i think that's the only one)

 

Kudos to you two for doing that! The other logical stat too look at is HE alpha, which I've noticed has outliers, namely the 90 mm guns on the LTTB, Dragon, etc, which have a whopping 50% increase over AP.

 

It's interesting that all of these are basically identically. Sk8xtrm mention the WZ113 in his recent review, and it's interesting that no other tank even comes close. (The Scavenger has a massive 24% drop on it's derp gun — and only a 16.6% increase in pen).

 

 

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SuperMax812, on 27 November 2018 - 05:18 PM, said:

 

So the M7 a seal clubbing tank? I don't seal club but the fact that the APCR increases DPM, penetration, and shell velocity is a bit rediculous

 

Tackywheat1, on 27 November 2018 - 09:48 PM, said:

 

for M7 do you mean premium boosts dpm and pen?

yes. seal club tank? idk. 

 

what it seems like is that WG forgot to change the alpha damage of the M7's premium shell to match the new 75mm gun standards. Pre-5.5, those 17 pdr/76mm/7.5 cm guns all would have 160 alpha for standard ammo, 135 for premium, and 200 for HE. Now, its 120/105/200. 

So for the M7, its 120/135. im guessing the APCR shell's damage will be nerfed to 105 in the next update, but if not, then, spam prammo all the way

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alphablob, on 27 November 2018 - 10:04 PM, said:

 

 

Kudos to you two for doing that! The other logical stat too look at is HE alpha, which I've noticed has outliers, namely the 90 mm guns on the LTTB, Dragon, etc, which have a whopping 50% increase over AP.

 

It's interesting that all of these are basically identically. Sk8xtrm mention the WZ113 in his recent review, and it's interesting that no other tank even comes close. (The Scavenger has a massive 24% drop on it's derp gun — and only a 16.6% increase in pen).

 

 

 

thanks for input on Scavenger, ill update our info

 

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Tackywheat1, on 28 November 2018 - 05:48 AM, said:

 

for M7 do you mean premium boosts dpm and pen?

Yes it does

 

I thought IS-3 had APCR for premium ammo
Yes it does, slip of the keyboard, +1 for correcting me.