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Blackduckfury #1 Posted 11 January 2019 - 03:36 PM

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The m46 Patton was almost identical to the m26 in fact it was designated m26e2 in its developmental state. It saw combat in Korea alongside the Pershing and M4a3e8. A 90mm round from a Pershing or Patton could frontally penetrate the Soviet T-34-85 and come out the back! Yeah but that’s not what happens on blitz, I can barely pen tier 8 tanks I generally go hull down and find paper armored leopards and hit them, and then my favorite opponent the just lovely 183 drops my 1000 and I’m forced to hide the rest of the game and fire non penetrating snap shots! Yeah so what do I do?
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Don't be in the position to get hit by a 183.

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BOOMROCKA #4 Posted 11 January 2019 - 04:44 PM

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Play at least 100 battles in every tank before you can complain about it too much. Give it a chance. I've had some fun with this one. My WR in this one should be higher. I think I need to take it out of the garage more often.

Edited by BOOMROCKA, 11 January 2019 - 04:48 PM.


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Oicraftian #6 Posted 11 January 2019 - 05:43 PM

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T-34 85 actually has quite strong armor. I doubt 90mm M3 with less than 4 MJ of KE would pen T-34 85 easily.

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dadunshootme #7 Posted 11 January 2019 - 05:47 PM

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Thanks for the service. Remember though, this is a game and the mechanics of it operate off of algorithms and general game theory. I mean the KV-2 took on as many panzers as it had ammo, we don't want that kind of realism in the game.

boppinbobby #8 Posted 11 January 2019 - 05:48 PM

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T34-85 is a tier 6 unless you mean the Rudy which is a 7. the M46 is a tier 9. 

 

you won't see a 34-85 in battle in a M46. the 183 wastes everything so just don't get in the way of it and blame the tank. 


Edited by boppinbobby, 11 January 2019 - 07:45 PM.

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Gavidoc01 #9 Posted 11 January 2019 - 06:12 PM

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Considering you have 69 battles in the T20 and only 6 in the Pershing yet have the M46 should be enough information you need but I'll spell it out for you anyway.

 

  1. You jumped a crucial tier and didn't spend any time in the tier to really understand how to play the Patton since as you say, the Patton is an advanced better Pershing.
  2. Hull down American Mediums are some of the harder mediums to play because they are slow, have slow reloads and only really have gun depression. Many struggle with them.
  3. If you struggled in the Tier VI versions, struggled even more in the Tier VII version (T20) and only played 6 battles in the Tier VIII, why would you think you could play the tier IX?

 

What should you do?

 

Figure out how to survive more than 29% in the M4 and get the WR to 50% and then repeat with the Tier VI.


Edited by Gavidoc01, 11 January 2019 - 06:14 PM.

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Rio_Grande #10 Posted 11 January 2019 - 06:54 PM

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View PostBlackduckfury, on 11 January 2019 - 09:36 AM, said:

The m46 Patton was almost identical to the m26 in fact it was designated m26e2 in its developmental state. It saw combat in Korea alongside the Pershing and M4a3e8. A 90mm round from a Pershing or Patton could frontally penetrate the Soviet T-34-85 and come out the back! Yeah but that’s not what happens on blitz, I can barely pen tier 8 tanks I generally go hull down and find paper armored leopards and hit them, and then my favorite opponent the just lovely 183 drops my 1000 and I’m forced to hide the rest of the game and fire non penetrating snap shots! Yeah so what do I do?

 

The m46 patton with the top turret and 105mm gun is not the m46 patton, it's actually the m47 patton, whole 'nother beast.

 

 

 


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BOOMROCKA #11 Posted 11 January 2019 - 08:33 PM

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View PostGavidoc01, on 11 January 2019 - 01:12 PM, said:

Considering you have 69 battles in the T20 and only 6 in the Pershing yet have the M46 should be enough information you need but I'll spell it out for you anyway.

 

  1. You jumped a crucial tier and didn't spend any time in the tier to really understand how to play the Patton since as you say, the Patton is an advanced better Pershing.
  2. Hull down American Mediums are some of the harder mediums to play because they are slow, have slow reloads and only really have gun depression. Many struggle with them.
  3. If you struggled in the Tier VI versions, struggled even more in the Tier VII version (T20) and only played 6 battles in the Tier VIII, why would you think you could play the tier IX?

 

What should you do?

 

Figure out how to survive more than 29% in the M4 and get the WR to 50% and then repeat with the Tier VI.

 

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BoomBoyGT #12 Posted 11 January 2019 - 08:50 PM

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View Postboppinbobby, on 11 January 2019 - 05:48 PM, said:

T34-85 is a tier 6 unless you mean the Rudy which is a 7. the M46 is a tier 9. 

 

you won't see a 34-85 in battle in a M46. the 183 wastes everything so just don't get in the way of it and blame the tank. 

 

You're as bright as a broken lightbulb. He was talking about the M46 Patton's historical military service in Vietnam, where it DID face T-34/85s and COULD penetrate the front of the hull and overpenetrate the back with it AP shells on a good hit.

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View PostGavidoc01, on 11 January 2019 - 01:12 PM, said:

Considering you have 69 battles in the T20 and only 6 in the Pershing yet have the M46 should be enough information you need but I'll spell it out for you anyway.

 

  1. You jumped a crucial tier and didn't spend any time in the tier to really understand how to play the Patton since as you say, the Patton is an advanced better Pershing.
  2. Hull down American Mediums are some of the harder mediums to play because they are slow, have slow reloads and only really have gun depression. Many struggle with them.
  3. If you struggled in the Tier VI versions, struggled even more in the Tier VII version (T20) and only played 6 battles in the Tier VIII, why would you think you could play the tier IX?

 

What should you do?

 

Figure out how to survive more than 29% in the M4 and get the WR to 50% and then repeat with the Tier VI.

 

I have nothing more to add. +1 

 

Well maybe I do ;)

 

I nubbed Up the Patton line in 2014/early 2015.  

  Every one from 4-10 was 200+ battles and mid 40%.  

 

I went back and learned them. 

  Last 90 day for my M46 is 70%+ and 2,400 avg dmg. 

The entire line is great, but requires a degree of skill and knowledge to employ well.  


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boppinbobby #14 Posted 12 January 2019 - 12:02 AM

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View PostBoomBoyGT, on 11 January 2019 - 12:50 PM, said:

 

You're as bright as a broken lightbulb. He was talking about the M46 Patton's historical military service in Vietnam, where it DID face T-34/85s and COULD penetrate the front of the hull and overpenetrate the back with it AP shells on a good hit.

 

but IT"s A GAME!

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View Postboppinbobby, on 12 January 2019 - 12:02 AM, said:

 

but IT"s A GAME!

 

Be glad it's a game too! If it wasn't, and was based on historical vehicle development, the IS-7 would be a fugging Tier 7 or 8, facing Pershings and Tiger 2s and being impenetrable from literally everything except its own gun against its lower plate!


Edited by BoomBoyGT, 12 January 2019 - 06:47 AM.


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View PostGavidoc01, on 11 January 2019 - 06:12 PM, said:

Considering you have 69 battles in the T20 and only 6 in the Pershing yet have the M46 should be enough information you need but I'll spell it out for you anyway.

 

  1. You jumped a crucial tier and didn't spend any time in the tier to really understand how to play the Patton since as you say, the Patton is an advanced better Pershing.
  2. Hull down American Mediums are some of the harder mediums to play because they are slow, have slow reloads and only really have gun depression. Many struggle with them.
  3. If you struggled in the Tier VI versions, struggled even more in the Tier VII version (T20) and only played 6 battles in the Tier VIII, why would you think you could play the tier IX?

 

What should you do?

 

Figure out how to survive more than 29% in the M4 and get the WR to 50% and then repeat with the Tier VI.

 

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View PostGavidoc01, on 11 January 2019 - 12:12 PM, said:

Considering you have 69 battles in the T20 and only 6 in the Pershing yet have the M46 should be enough information you need but I'll spell it out for you anyway.

 

  1. You jumped a crucial tier and didn't spend any time in the tier to really understand how to play the Patton since as you say, the Patton is an advanced better Pershing.
  2. Hull down American Mediums are some of the harder mediums to play because they are slow, have slow reloads and only really have gun depression. Many struggle with them.
  3. If you struggled in the Tier VI versions, struggled even more in the Tier VII version (T20) and only played 6 battles in the Tier VIII, why would you think you could play the tier IX?

 

What should you do?

 

Figure out how to survive more than 29% in the M4 and get the WR to 50% and then repeat with the Tier VI.

 

Since when are american mediums slow....

 

48kph isn't bad if you got the engine power to get up to that speed, only american medium that felt sluggish to me is the Pershing, because it only has 700 or so horsepower and weight 45 tons give or take.


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Do something crazy, play like 1000 battles in t20... It's my go to tank when I start playing like a moron bc it it rewards more patient playing. It's a really good tank for training, it forces you to play the med role proper and not fly around and face hug or dpm people to death, bc in higher tiers you can't really get away with that brawl one guy at a time one man army strategy. And the turret is weak so you learn to move and wiggle when hull down bc even strong turreted tanks can get their cup or face pen'd.

Rio_Grande #19 Posted 12 January 2019 - 05:00 PM

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I never did "amazing" in the t20, but it was a fun change of pace from the shermans prior.

 

Having a more sniper oriented gun, and a lower profile was nice, compared to having a pop gun and being 9 feet tall.


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View PostRio_Grande, on 12 January 2019 - 10:51 AM, said:

 

Since when are american mediums slow....

 

48kph isn't bad if you got the engine power to get up to that speed, only american medium that felt sluggish to me is the Pershing, because it only has 700 or so horsepower and weight 45 tons give or take.

 

only the t20 is best in class for speed. Sherman is 2nd slowest tech tree medium at tier vi and Pershing is third slowest at tier viii. Patton ties for third slowest tech tree medium at tier ix. Yes. They are slow. 

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