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minitel_NA #1 Posted 06 March 2019 - 09:47 AM

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It probably occurred to you that I’m the lil’ AMX 13 57 hugest fan.

I basically run that thing exclusively ever since I got it.

im now well past the 3K games, and ace it once or twice per session

(Thanks nobody else is playing it anymore)

 

That tank is also known  for the infamous camo mess up, so it has a horrible reputation, and that’s why nobody is playing it.

 

After playing 3K games, here are my thoughts:

 

  1. For the most part, I can make it to work without camo. Finishing 1v3 becomes very difficult, and some other times it could make things much more comfortable, but overall it forces me into full yolo mode which is not all that bad on my fun-o-meter
  2. After a while, I also got used to the bad pen. Of course in some instances it becomes ridiculous. some German armor can’t be dealt with except at exactly 90° angle, please stop shaking ur fat German [edited]like that. That can lose u a few games, 1v1 with a vk100 is tons of wasted prammo, but overall it’s fun trying to work around the problem. Here again, full yolo, but full yolo PAST te enemies and into their back. It’s a playstyle that is a change from, say driving German, Russian or Chinese lunchboxes.
  3. the worst complain in the long run is the dispersion. Because what makes the strength is the clip as a whole. When you lose half of it (or more). It took me a long while to notice, but the dispersion could make each shot count when the two previous issues place you in a precarious situation. You could shoot from further away, shoot weak spots, or spray on the run and have more of them hitting. 
  4. Ah yeah, did I mention it’s a premium tank that earns no credits ? Yup that’s right annoying. Better go farm credits in some tech tree heavies. 

 

Anyways i shared with some of you my belief is that WG would buff it before selling it again. Just to give it some hype. Well, apparently v5.9 is lurking, and according to the blitz post, WG will do just that !

  1. reload is now 10 instead of 11
  2. dispersion on the turret traverse is now 0.06 instead of 0.08.

 

However, the main  dispersion issues come from the value on the move and traversing the hull, which were not communicated by the blitz post. If these improve, it’s a huge boost, if they don’t, then the small dispersion buff is just a pat in the back. I can only suppose they will.

 

We also need to take into account that spic, t71, lttb all got a buff.

 of all of these, the danger comes from the lttb. It’s too agile, and the reload and ram capabilities are issues to deal with. You can only deal with it by trading full clips and escaping for the reload, which means some minimal distance, or by luring him into some green noob to get dpm help.

your main enemies remain Dracula and CDC. Those ugly things can ram you and dpm you anytime and u are coocked..

 

overall I’m still excited. The only bad news is that it all means they will sell more AMX 13 57, which will make me drop from the world classement into noobiness just as I was nearing 30 days uperuni status .  Also for a month people will know about your 6 shots before they forget again, so that will be annoying as well. 

 

Overall will it make this tank easier to play, or more difficult? I think it will be an easier tank to play.

We can expect a price drop, and if tier5 Leo clip is your style, I recommend the purchase.  

 

if you want to know what yolowagon means, those are my replays in the thing :

https://replays.wotinspector.com/en/sort/ut/?pl=520705836&vt=&veh=16449#filters


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VelociTanker #2 Posted 06 March 2019 - 02:59 PM

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Great little tank and lots of fun to drive. Most people I know hate it. Until the fix the camo it's a hard pass on buying it. They probably won't ever fix it because none of the big boi youtuberonis complained about it like when their beloved batchat came out broken. If you remember the youtubers constantly moaned until WG fixed that. The camo is so bad you are spotted from everywhere including by people in other games on other maps. 


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wannabeunicum #3 Posted 06 March 2019 - 03:15 PM

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The 13 57 shows WG's anti light hate best

 

The grave digger with a lot of armor can dump its clip in 3 second while the 13 57 which has no armor takes 5 seconds.

 

 


Edited by wannabeunicum, 06 March 2019 - 03:16 PM.


RockMonsterNo1 #4 Posted 06 March 2019 - 03:17 PM

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They could be selling the 57 soon? Heck yes! I love my lights and I've been waiting to pick this thing up regardless of what people say. I find that just cause people say it isn't a great tank, I still find ways to enjoy them. Cheiftain/T95 case and point.

If/when I buy it I'll be sure to ask you more about it Minitel



TheMainframe #5 Posted 06 March 2019 - 04:54 PM

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I would love to play this tank. I don't know if I'd be super good or anything, but I'm sure it would be fun!

I love the ones that need it most.


minitel_NA #6 Posted 06 March 2019 - 06:11 PM

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View PostVelociTanker, on 06 March 2019 - 02:59 PM, said:

Great little tank and lots of fun to drive. Most people I know hate it. Until the fix the camo it's a hard pass on buying it. They probably won't ever fix it because none of the big boi youtuberonis complained about it like when their beloved batchat came out broken. If you remember the youtubers constantly moaned until WG fixed that. The camo is so bad you are spotted from everywhere including by people in other games on other maps. 

 

AMX 13 57  came out with a bad medium camo. It had bad still camo, and horrible driving camo.

In fact, it had received the values from the AMX 49  (or was it lorraine ? ) that came out at the same time.

that means, a huge tier 8 medium.

 

people did cry. WG said there is no problem.

people cried more. WG said we will fix the light tank camo.

 

and they gave it as a still camo, the same driving camo value. 

Of a tier 8 medium.

 

so now even still, it has the same camo as a huge tier8 medium moving. 

its a joke.

 

 

the only hope is that WG will fix it silently with the rest of the buff.

they usually don’t communicate about the camo values.

 

if they don’t fix it, the tank will remain hated and I will continue having it as my own littl private fun.

 

 


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_Crusader6_ #7 Posted 06 March 2019 - 07:12 PM

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Parked for ever with other pieces of garbage like the T95EPoo Tier 8 Medium. 

 


 

 
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VelociTanker #8 Posted 06 March 2019 - 07:34 PM

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View Postminitel_NA, on 06 March 2019 - 06:11 PM, said:

 

people cried more. WG said we will fix the light tank camo.

 

and they gave it as a still camo, the same driving camo value. 

Of a tier 8 medium.

 

the only hope is that WG will fix it silently with the rest of the buff.

they usually don’t communicate about the camo values.

 

Thank you for that clarification, sir. I'm off to record some actual numbers for a baseline to compare it later.
But please keep telling everyone it's trash, please. :)



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minitel_NA #9 Posted 07 March 2019 - 01:21 AM

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View PostVelociTanker, on 06 March 2019 - 07:34 PM, said:

 

Thank you for that clarification, sir. I'm off to record some actual numbers for a baseline to compare it later.
But please keep telling everyone it's trash, please. :)

View Post__Crusader6__, on 06 March 2019 - 07:12 PM, said:

Parked for ever with other pieces of garbage like the T95EPoo Tier 8 Medium. 

 

 

exactly, we definitely need more people like crusader6.

My pleasure.

 

:) 

 

 

 


Edited by minitel_NA, 07 March 2019 - 01:21 AM.

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_GraceToo #10 Posted 15 March 2019 - 10:40 PM

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View Postminitel_NA, on 06 March 2019 - 01:47 AM, said:

 

  1. reload is now 10 instead of 11

 

 

No that's just a rounding error in the news.  In the detail section, it says reload is 10.7, or 11.  It's the same tank you are driving now.



minitel_NA #11 Posted 16 March 2019 - 12:21 AM

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View Post_dookie, on 15 March 2019 - 10:40 PM, said:

 

No that's just a rounding error in the news.  In the detail section, it says reload is 10.7, or 11.  It's the same tank you are driving now.

 

nooooo which part is buffed then ???

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XXX_Corps #12 Posted 16 March 2019 - 12:16 PM

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View Postwannabeunicum, on 06 March 2019 - 03:15 PM, said:

The 13 57 shows WG's anti light hate best

 

The grave digger with a lot of armor can dump its clip in 3 second while the 13 57 which has no armor takes 5 seconds.

 

 

Exactly, who would choose the 13  57 with crap pen when you could get a grave digger. 

 

When they nerfed the 13 75 they made it unplayable, because of the bad pen. Your just buying a premium version of that tank with the same crappy pen and no better dpm. 



minitel_NA #13 Posted 16 March 2019 - 12:37 PM

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View PostXXX_Corps, on 16 March 2019 - 12:16 PM, said:

Exactly, who would choose the 13  57 with crap pen when you could get a grave digger. 

 

When they nerfed the 13 75 they made it unplayable, because of the bad pen. Your just buying a premium version of that tank with the same crappy pen and no better dpm. 

 

I agree that giving away the digger right after I bought my AMX was very disgraceful from WG.

 

 

However there is a big difference between digger and AMX-13-57

Digger is slow and heavily armored and will be OP against tier7, but it will face tier 8, in which case all its armor is useless and it can only shoot whatever sits in front of him for 10s.

 

amx is surper fast and it doesn’t matter which tier is the enemy. U can always go to his back and unload 540 dmg and run before he can even turn. The only issue is the VK100, even 90° in the sides or back it’s hard to make every shot pen while circling. Everything else is quite easy. It takes practice and understanding, but it is doable. 

 

After er a few month, I would drive my AMX over the digger any time.


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Tolomeo357 #14 Posted 16 March 2019 - 06:06 PM

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I bought this little sucker yesterday, and it's the most fun I've had with any tank. The pen sucks, but you shouldn't be shooting tanks from the front anyways.

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View PostTolomeo357, on 16 March 2019 - 01:06 PM, said:

I bought this little sucker yesterday, and it's the most fun I've had with any tank. The pen sucks, but you shouldn't be shooting tanks from the front anyways.

 

My issues never where about the pen it was alway about being outspotted by a Russian Heavy in the open while I was 15m behind a bush. 

 

The playstyle doesn’t suit me.    I’m glad some enjoy it. 

 

Mintel, man I don’t have anything over 1k, my 140 and Patton’s are close but 3k battles?   Geez. 


 

 
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View Post__Crusader6__, on 16 March 2019 - 03:02 PM, said:

 

Mintel, man I don’t have anything over 1k, my 140 and Patton’s are close but 3k battles?   Geez. 

 

to be fair, you have a lot of tanks.


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minitel_NA #17 Posted 17 March 2019 - 07:18 AM

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View Post__Crusader6__, on 16 March 2019 - 08:02 PM, said:

 

My issues never where about the pen it was alway about being outspotted by a Russian Heavy in the open while I was 15m behind a bush. 

 

The playstyle doesn’t suit me.    I’m glad some enjoy it. 

 

Mintel, man I don’t have anything over 1k, my 140 and Patton’s are close but 3k battles?   Geez. 

 

I got tired of pretty much anything else. 

low tiers don’t exist anymore,

Tired of grinding tech tree things,

bored to death by the stalinium stuff and their clones.

Playing heavies feels like being deseparately stuck in a thick tar.

 

the only thing that still needs me is tier10.

I have always stayed outside of it. I felt I didn’t have the skills.

i think I’m ready.

 

 

 

lekpz is another very interesting tank, but compared to tiny AMX, it’s still a derptruck. On occasions it will ram like a pro.

 

amx in the other hand is more like a motorbike with an automated handgun.

Its a yolowagon, you can drive into red spawn and make it out alive.

But you would do anything slightly wrong by a single pixel or millisecond and u lay dead right there.

At the same time, if you don’t do any mistake you are impossible to catch.

in most situations ou can’t really die except from your own wrong doing.

while this might be the case of say, a lttb, you also have a 550 clip that can burn any cocky IS-clone in 5s, and can repeat the feat just 10.7 seconds later.

 

it’s punk as hell, it’s some sort of ultimate.

 

 

 

but I admit after 3000 games, my thirst feels satisfied.

I played batchat all day yesterday. 

 


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What does it get in Mad Games?  Might be worth it for just that ...

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View Post_dookie, on 17 March 2019 - 06:40 PM, said:

What does it get in Mad Games?  Might be worth it for just that ...

 

I dunno but last mad games it was just a punching ball for CDCs, and with 4 cdcs per game it wasn’t all this much fun :/

except if the goal was to learn how to escape CDC, in which case it was a useful practice. So I played a few games where the entire game was being chased by CDC seeing how long I could survive, and I guess this skill served me later.

 

now, they did nerf the mad game cdc so maybe it’s different this time around, I haven’t played mad games (yet)


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