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[_Nuget_]

So, I ended up buying the tank and yes you can hate me for it. How is it? Well, it's a very hard tank to use. I have 10 battles with an average of 3k damage in it and to be honest I prefer my other tier 8 premiums than this. I find myself focusing way more just to connect my shots and the reload kills me as it's very long. I may be doing okay in it but that's because I'm way more focused when driving it (complicated tank). You have to make sure you connect your shots or you're going to pay for it. Yes, tier 7s can pen you quite easily too especially if they fire premium at you. Would I recommend it? No, unless you're a tank collector. Anyways that's my very short review.

 

 

 

[Sepp_Ulrich]

Yes, very decent tank. Great armor and mobility. The cannon is impecable sometimes and horrible sometimes. All in all, I won more games than I lost (and the ones I lost was due to trash teams) and did an average of 2,600 damage each. Great credit grinder too.

 

Edit: Red is for Mod/Admin usage only. 

[__Frostbite]

idk...how can you not recommend a tank if you have 100% winrate, 3k average, and as many spots as a medium?

[wrecker1968]

Nice review. If you get the chance, Report back after you have a 100 games on it too. Please.

[shyw]

wrecker1968, on 11 May 2019 - 12:44 AM, said:

Nice review. If you get the chance, Report back after you have a 100 games on it too. Please.

 

after the honeymoon period

 

by the way, peeps believe in the honeymoon period, but don’t believe in MM or RNG manipulation

 

cant have one without the other or vice versa...

Edited by shyw, 11 May 2019 - 02:17 AM.

[wrecker1968]

^^^^ True. Good point.

[minitel_NA]

shyw, on 11 May 2019 - 02:16 AM, said:

 

after the honeymoon period

 

by the way, peeps believe in the honeymoon period, but don’t believe in MM or RNG manipulation

 

cant have one without the other or vice versa...

 

 

honeymoon was announced by devs. They didn’t say more precisely than that but it’s believed to be around half a dozen  battles

[_UrgleMcPurfle_]

According to tank-compare, the 252u has incredible camo—besides being comparable to mediums, I think it has the best heavy camo in the game. While not exactly compatible with the gun and overshadowed by the frontal armor, it's still a unique trait nonetheless that might explain the high spot rate that maverick noted.

[Absolute_Sniper]

minitel_NA, on 11 May 2019 - 02:31 AM, said:

 

 

honeymoon was announced by devs. They didn’t say more precisely than that but it’s believed to be around half a dozen  battles

Honeymoon is 5 battles as top tier. After that MM is free to ravage you.

[ZebraUp]

I_Maverick_I, on 10 May 2019 - 06:54 PM, said:

idk...how can you not recommend a tank if you have 100% winrate, 3k average, and as many spots as a medium?

 

Because she is a highly aggressive & phenomenal player and she ain't lovin it?

 

*all i know is that i definitely don't want to see her on the red team!!

Edited by ZebraUp, 11 May 2019 - 05:28 AM.

[__V_O_P__]

shyw, on 11 May 2019 - 02:16 AM, said:

 

after the honeymoon period

 

by the way, peeps believe in the honeymoon period, but don’t believe in MM or RNG manipulation

 

cant have one without the other or vice versa...

 

I’m sure there’ll be a long and logically dubious response to this but why can’t a honeymoon period (a few battles with preferential top tier selection) exist without RNG manipulation?

[Chiefmac]

Sepp_Ulrich, on 10 May 2019 - 01:59 PM, said:

Yes, very decent tank. Great armor and mobility. The cannon is impecable sometimes and horrible sometimes. All in all, I won more games than I lost (and the ones I lost was due to trash teams) and did an average of 2,600 damage each. Great credit grinder too.

 

Edit: Red is for Mod/Admin usage only. 

 

Or just wait for the silly high sale price to come down in the future..... : /

[__Crusader6__]

Absolute_Sniper, on 10 May 2019 - 11:20 PM, said:

Honeymoon is 5 battles as top tier. After that MM is free to ravage you.

 

Negative. 

  I’ve had my first battle as low tier. 

 

All Honeymoon did was give your tank a lower relative weighting in MM that if server pop was high enough for your battle tiers you should be high tier. 

 

 

[__Crusader6__]

shyw, on 10 May 2019 - 09:16 PM, said:

 

after the honeymoon period

 

by the way, peeps believe in the honeymoon period, but don’t believe in MM or RNG manipulation

 

cant have one without the other or vice versa...

 

You can totally have one without the other, at least as far as non equitable balance goes. 

  Regarding MM, it’s more important to read what WG doesn’t say is included in MM.  

RNG, well WG has said RNG is done at time of incident - with no preload. 

 

MM for instance can be weighted in ways that is fair. 

  If it logs high/low tier and tries to assign players equitably (as battle tier population allows) that’s not rigged.  This same manner could be used for Honeymoon. 

  The same way as logging your maps to try to keep you off the same maps over and over again. 

 

All of those possibilities are manipulated, but not in a way that give a non equitable solution to all players involved. 

 

 

[Si1verBlood]

__Crusader6__, on 11 May 2019 - 09:54 AM, said:

 

You can totally have one without the other, at least as far as non equitable balance goes. 

  Regarding MM, it’s more important to read what WG doesn’t say is included in MM.  

RNG, well WG has said RNG is done at time of incident - with no preload. 

 

MM for instance can be weighted in ways that is fair. 

  If it logs high/low tier and tries to assign players equitably (as battle tier population allows) that’s not rigged.  This same manner could be used for Honeymoon. 

  The same way as logging your maps to try to keep you off the same maps over and over again. 

 

All of those possibilities are manipulated, but not in a way that give a non equitable solution to all players involved. 

 

 

 

Honeymoon only affects if you are hightier or lowtier in a match...and honestly I'd rather be low tier for honeymoon since hightiers usually are the pivotal point of the battle...USUALLLY

[TO_Dominator]

shyw, on 10 May 2019 - 09:16 PM, said:

 

after the honeymoon period

 

by the way, peeps believe in the honeymoon period, but don’t believe in MM or RNG manipulation

 

cant have one without the other or vice versa...

 

I didn't mean to upvote this. 

 

My apologies.

[__Crusader6__]

Si1verBlood, on 11 May 2019 - 10:00 AM, said:

 

Honeymoon only affects if you are hightier or lowtier in a match...and honestly I'd rather be low tier for honeymoon since hightiers usually are the pivotal point of the battle...USUALLLY

 

My point was simply about MM ‘manipulation’ and why it isn’t necessary unfair.  

  The same sort method used for Honeymoon, can be used for other aspects in game. 

Manipulating MM doesn’t mean that it is skewing a battle for or against any specific person or team. 

 

We know MM is manipulated in many ways.   All we really know is what WG has stated MM doesn’t factor. 

   So one can read between the lines and see that some other items clearly are. 

 

 

Honeymoon was important in +/-2, as a stock -2 had no chance of penning many reds - sometimes even all 7 depending on how bad MM skewed the team back then (like 6 tier X reds and a 9, and green got 2 9’s and 5 8’s...) 

 These days Honeymoon isn’t nearly as important.  

[_Cletus]

I prefer to have my honey moons at mirage.  The waterfall is so romantic.

[Absolute_Sniper]

__Crusader6__, on 11 May 2019 - 02:47 PM, said:

 

Negative. 

  I’ve had my first battle as low tier. 

 

All Honeymoon did was give your tank a lower relative weighting in MM that if server pop was high enough for your battle tiers you should be high tier. 

 

 

Must have a population trigger much like the new player queue. I have never been bottom tier in my first five games but it’s almost like clockwork that game 6 is bottom tier game. 

 

Honestly it makes sense to have it even with +1/-1 as stock tanks and especially 50-75% crew makes being bottom tier a struggle in quite a few tanks. 

[minitel_NA]

All hail to crusader once again...