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michaeltsoon #1 Posted 26 May 2019 - 06:11 PM

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Teams have been absolutely pathetic today. I played 20 battles in my IS-4, (while in a platoon with another 60%er no less) here are the results.

 

WN8: 3,251

WN7: 1,580

Winrate: 50.00%

D/R: 1.83

K/D/R: 1.77

DPB: 3,312

KPD: 1.15

HPB: 10.10

Spots: 1.15

Hit rate: 90.18%

Survival rate: 35.00%

 

I'm clearly performing at super-uni levels, and yet I cannot beat a dice roll. Seriously Wargaming? Fix your rigged Matchmaker system.


Edited by michaeltsoon, 26 May 2019 - 06:14 PM.

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AntoineDodson #2 Posted 26 May 2019 - 06:42 PM

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Yep, posted about the teams earlier. Just garbage. Nobody has a clue about anything.
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j_rod #3 Posted 26 May 2019 - 06:45 PM

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View Postmichaeltsoon, on 26 May 2019 - 12:11 PM, said:

Teams have been absolutely pathetic today. I played 20 battles in my IS-4, (while in a platoon with another 60%er no less) here are the results.

 

WN8: 3,251

WN7: 1,580

Winrate: 50.00%

D/R: 1.83

K/D/R: 1.77

DPB: 3,312

KPD: 1.15

HPB: 10.10

Spots: 1.15

Hit rate: 90.18%

Survival rate: 35.00%

 

I'm clearly performing at super-uni levels, and yet I cannot beat a dice roll. Seriously Wargaming? Fix your rigged Matchmaker system.

 

Unsolicited suggestion - pick two OP tanks at tiers 7 or 8 and get a run going. IMHO there aren't any truly OP tanks at tiers 9-10, so given the playerbase this weekend, might as well play tanks that give you a chance. 



michaeltsoon #4 Posted 26 May 2019 - 06:46 PM

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View Postj_rod, on 26 May 2019 - 01:45 PM, said:

 

Unsolicited suggestion - pick two OP tanks at tiers 7 or 8 and get a run going. IMHO there aren't any truly OP tanks at tiers 9-10, so given the playerbase this weekend, might as well play tanks that give you a chance. 

 

I don't know your thinking process, but imo if one is averaging 3310 damage in tier 10 with a heavy tank and only winning half their games, there is clearly something wrong.

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2_of_Hearts #5 Posted 26 May 2019 - 07:27 PM

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Okay, so legit question. What's the deal with wn7? Like your stats there all look beastmode, but the wn7 is sticking out like a sore thumb. I often have this problem myself and would love to have an answer

originalmadkilla #6 Posted 26 May 2019 - 07:35 PM

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Everything is working according to plan.:playing:

 

Tiers no longer mean anything. It's like I've been saying all along.

 

All of the trash players are now found everywhere and clueless teams are just to be expected.

 

And yes, very often, it is just a roll of the dice, so you might as well roll dice instead, as that at least is quicker and wont waste many minutes of somebody's time.:justwait:



zeropercenter #7 Posted 26 May 2019 - 08:09 PM

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Yea it is definitely rigged towards super-unis. Especially when you had a 90 recent WR on weekdays, they will try to rig you whenever they find competitive red teams.

The pattern is too easy to be recognized as many super-unis know how to anti-rig it already.

 

 

Someone once had 40+ battles in obj 268 with 4.5k damage period and got 43 WR and of course a losing streak of 10+. But he is the one that demands it. He said the stats of the red super-unis team also got rekt. 


Edited by zeropercenter, 26 May 2019 - 08:13 PM.


__Frostbite #8 Posted 26 May 2019 - 08:19 PM

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View Post2_of_Hearts, on 26 May 2019 - 11:27 AM, said:

Okay, so legit question. What's the deal with wn7? Like your stats there all look beastmode, but the wn7 is sticking out like a sore thumb. I often have this problem myself and would love to have an answer

 

WN7 is just irrelevant. Don't worry about it, its an old stat that has been turned obsolete. For one, it values getting kills much more than WN8 does, which is just flawed. Higher damage numbers show more skill because it shows the player is 1) able to pen shots and 2) knows how to position well to get shot opportunities. Second, it just looks at the stats you have and compares them to the average tier you have. That means that if you play an OP tank badly, you'll always have the same WN7 than if you played a worse tank at a higher level and got equal stats. The third problem about it is that its intentionally supposed to be stricter, it's supposed to include even less people at the highest level. So much that some tanks don't even ANY players at Super Unicum WN7. What's the point if the standards are so high that no one can achieve them?
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__Frostbite #9 Posted 26 May 2019 - 08:20 PM

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MM isn't rigged. 
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2_of_Hearts #10 Posted 26 May 2019 - 08:31 PM

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View Post_Ntwadumela, on 26 May 2019 - 08:19 PM, said:

 

WN7 is just irrelevant. Don't worry about it, its an old stat that has been turned obsolete. For one, it values getting kills much more than WN8 does, which is just flawed. Higher damage numbers show more skill because it shows the player is 1) able to pen shots and 2) knows how to position well to get shot opportunities. Second, it just looks at the stats you have and compares them to the average tier you have. That means that if you play an OP tank badly, you'll always have the same WN7 than if you played a worse tank at a higher level and got equal stats. The third problem about it is that its intentionally supposed to be stricter, it's supposed to include even less people at the highest level. So much that some tanks don't even ANY players at Super Unicum WN7. What's the point if the standards are so high that no one can achieve them?

 

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minitel_NA #11 Posted 26 May 2019 - 08:36 PM

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View Postmichaeltsoon, on 26 May 2019 - 06:46 PM, said:

 

I don't know your thinking process, but imo if one is averaging 3310 damage in tier 10 with a heavy tank and only winning half their games, there is clearly something wrong.

 

There will be good series and bad series.

sometimes i play pathetically bad and will win no matter what, these games I don’t notice as much as the games I’m at my top effort and team is dead before I can reload a second clip. (Yup I had those games for extended periods).

 

When the wind is too strong nowadays I just either play rating, or play some tanks that are fun regardless the game result (T49 big stare).

 

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9_V0LT #12 Posted 26 May 2019 - 08:58 PM

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View Postmichaeltsoon, on 26 May 2019 - 06:46 PM, said:

 

I don't know your thinking process, but imo if one is averaging 3310 damage in tier 10 with a heavy tank and only winning half their games, there is clearly something wrong.

 

What J-Rod is saying, is you can curse the rain or buy an umbrella. 

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Bellatormonk #13 Posted 26 May 2019 - 09:10 PM

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I have quit trying to even play on weekends.  Summer will only get worse once school is out and the kiddies flood the daytime Q.  Until Real Mode or RNG is altered in the next few patches I will expect to play and lose/win according to my usual voodoo beliefs (actually my full belief the Q's and RNG are rigged) and only play 10-15 games per day at best while spending mad cash on other games that are not so blatantly broken.  Just picked up AC Odyssey for $27...that will burn a huge chunk of time compared to one tank at T7/8 that gets power creeped or nerfed in 30 or so. 

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GentleNova #14 Posted 26 May 2019 - 09:31 PM

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View Postmichaeltsoon, on 26 May 2019 - 10:46 AM, said:

I don't know your thinking process, but imo if one is averaging 3310 damage in tier 10 with a heavy tank and only winning half their games, there is clearly something wrong.

 

3000+ dmg will help in a Tier 8 game. In a Tier 10 game, try for more like 5000+. Even then...that may not be enough (as some of my clan mates have noted). 


 

j_rod #15 Posted 26 May 2019 - 10:09 PM

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View PostGentleNova, on 26 May 2019 - 03:31 PM, said:

 

3000+ dmg will help in a Tier 8 game. In a Tier 10 game, try for more like 5000+. Even then...that may not be enough (as some of my clan mates have noted). 

 

Correct and even with that level of damage, it could be that it's occurring later in the game after your team has all died. Not saying you're camping or anything like that, but if you play a "carry" tank like a Bromwell, Drac, etc you can control the flow of the game more.

 

In other words, when you're a toon with two lighter, yet strong tanks, it means that you're more likely to have teammates with larger hit pools for you to farm off of. 

 

**edit** or whatever two uber-strong tanks you think make sense at tiers 6-8. My suggestions above were just two that I see unis carry with often.


Edited by j_rod, 26 May 2019 - 10:12 PM.


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View Post2_of_Hearts, on 26 May 2019 - 12:31 PM, said:

 

Wow, thanks a lot! And fix your damn stream! 1080 or DEATH

 

LOL, working on it. thanks for watching
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acrisis #17 Posted 26 May 2019 - 10:35 PM

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Have you clicked through some green player profiles after battle? 

 

Holiday weekend, queue flooded with 40% and periodic players? 


 

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j_rod #18 Posted 26 May 2019 - 11:56 PM

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View Post_Ntwadumela, on 26 May 2019 - 02:19 PM, said:

 

WN7 is just irrelevant. Don't worry about it, its an old stat that has been turned obsolete. For one, it values getting kills much more than WN8 does, which is just flawed. Higher damage numbers show more skill because it shows the player is 1) able to pen shots and 2) knows how to position well to get shot opportunities. Second, it just looks at the stats you have and compares them to the average tier you have. That means that if you play an OP tank badly, you'll always have the same WN7 than if you played a worse tank at a higher level and got equal stats. The third problem about it is that its intentionally supposed to be stricter, it's supposed to include even less people at the highest level. So much that some tanks don't even ANY players at Super Unicum WN7. What's the point if the standards are so high that no one can achieve them?

 

The caveat is that it's a good way of determining OP tanks - if a player's WN7 for a particular tank is higher than their WN8 for that tank, it means the tank is performing very strong for the tier. Conversely, if a tank has a very high WN8 but low WN7, it's a weak tank.

 

I just looked at my tanks where this holds true and I'd argue that all of these tanks are very strong for their tier -

 

Scavenger 

Smasher

SU-76I

Obj 252u

DW2 

 


Edited by j_rod, 27 May 2019 - 12:01 AM.


Morphman11 #19 Posted 27 May 2019 - 01:52 AM

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Since when is that considered dank purple

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View Postmichaeltsoon, on 26 May 2019 - 06:46 PM, said:

 

I don't know your thinking process, but imo if one is averaging 3310 damage in tier 10 with a heavy tank and only winning half their games, there is clearly something wrong.

 

Mate do you realize we are facing may be 98% of tier 10 players that are lower than 48% and/or most important with no experience/skills at all ? Not considering intelligence cause i don't wanna be rude vs human being. Now you know better than me that in tier 10 you need at the least a couple of good team mates to win. I totally feel you.

then they say that one "insult".

I would like also understand how speak the truth can be considered an insult.

They also get offended.

You say "Worthless" doing less then 1k dmg and they say you are a pos.

"play tier 5 (with air dmg of 700-800)" and they say you r pos.

"clueless" a medium playing like an heavy or a td and they will say you are a nub etc etc

the truth is that even considering is a mobile game WOTB doesn't do enough to raise the level of the players: at the least their self awareness






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