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[Vantablack12]

I just want to hear your guys opinions about this new rule.

[_Cletus]

It doesn't apply to NA.  I like sending the newbs to another queue though.

[Posit1ve_]

Thank god it's only on EU/CIS

 

If it were on NA, RIP my stats. Having fewer noobs in the queue would make carrying so much harder.

[cheesehead247365]

Posit1ve_, on 13 August 2019 - 02:07 PM, said:

Thank god it's only on EU/CIS

 

If it were on NA, RIP my stats. Having fewer noobs in the queue would make carrying so much harder.

LOL

[BoomMfer]

It sounds great! If it works as intended, and doesn’t cause wait times to increase much, I really see no downside. It basically creates a separate matchmaking cue for players that are consistently terrible, whether they’re trolls or just completely clueless. It’s based on your most recent play and you can go back to the regular cue if you improve.

 

edited: I didn’t realize it wasn’t NA, oh well.

Edited by BoomMfer, 13 August 2019 - 09:13 PM.

[RonaldusMaximus_]

Afraid it will make me stick out like a sore thumb... A giant, puss filled, infected thumb.

[Dark_Magician_Girl]

It has a lot of room for abuse.  Does it discriminate at all by tier, tank, etc?  What's to stop me from playing like absolute [...] in a tier 2 tank, getting put in the morons queue, then switching to a tier 10 and essentially rigging 5k averages against serial AFK's, bots, and tardigans? 

 

WG is going down a very slippery slope and didn't think this through enough.

[RonaldusMaximus_]

Dark_Magician_Girl, on 13 August 2019 - 04:52 PM, said:

It has a lot of room for abuse.  Does it discriminate at all by tier, tank, etc?  What's to stop me from playing like absolute sh!t in a tier 2 tank, getting put in the morons queue, then switching to a tier 10 and essentially rigging 5k averages against serial AFK's, bots, and tardigans? 

 

WG is going down a very slippery slope and didn't think this through enough.

 

Considering you take pride in your play, I feel safe knowing this scenario will not play out.

[Dark_Magician_Girl]

RonaldusMaximus_, on 13 August 2019 - 04:55 PM, said:

 

Considering you take pride in your play, I feel safe knowing this scenario will not play out.

 

What's to stop anyone else from doing it though?  Completely ruins the point of trying.

[RonaldusMaximus_]

They get moved back up to the correct cue, it self corrects, regardless, you won't be facing them when they are moved to the kiddie table.

[Dark_Magician_Girl]

RonaldusMaximus_, on 13 August 2019 - 05:00 PM, said:

They get moved back up to the correct cue, it self corrects, regardless, you won't be facing them when they are moved to the kiddie table.

 

And how will anyone be able to prove that?  After 100 battles in a run, it turns out they have a 5k average and they claim it was all done in the non-kiddie queue.  Chalk up poor performance in lower tier tanks to just starting out and having fun.  How does anyone disprove that without evidence of them farming in the kiddie queue?  Kiddie queue needs to have a tier restriction on it. Tiers 1-4.  

Edited by Dark_Magician_Girl, 13 August 2019 - 10:05 PM.

[_Cletus]

I doubt there'll be a lot of tier X play in the loser queue.  Plus if you start winning it'll kick you back in to the playa queue.

[Dark_Magician_Girl]

_Cletus, on 13 August 2019 - 05:08 PM, said:

I doubt there'll be a lot of tier X play in the loser queue.  Plus if you start winning it'll kick you back in to the playa queue.

 

yeah, and then I'll just play my tier 2 tank again until I get stuck in the morons queue.  Rinse and repeat.  Easy.  After I've finished rigging, I can just go back to seal clubbing and fix the WR of low tier tanks easily.  

 

See what I mean?  It really is no skin off my back

 

I wouldn't do this myself, but I'm saying someone will.  A lot of people will once they realize it.

Edited by Dark_Magician_Girl, 13 August 2019 - 10:11 PM.

[___ez_e___]

This is typical for wg.   

 

Try to fix something by making it worse.  Lol.  

[Absolute_Sniper]

This will reinforce bad play IMO. The yolo artist that dies 30 seconds in each game will get rewarded with players on red that won’t know how to deal with it. Instead of recognizing that something isn’t working they will learn that if they keep at it long enough, it will work. When it stops working it will just be MM trolling them.

Now if the game gave a message once you got moved queues, that might work. Something like: “You are being moved to the noob queue because you suck bad at this tank game. Figure it out muppet”. Followed with a dunce cap attachment with NOOB is big red letters that gets permanently installed for every game in the noob queue. Maybe then people would realize they were there for how they play and try and improve.

[EL_Din_46]

Dark_Magician_Girl, on 13 August 2019 - 01:52 PM, said:

It has a lot of room for abuse.  Does it discriminate at all by tier, tank, etc?  What's to stop me from playing like absolute sh!t in a tier 2 tank, getting put in the morons queue, then switching to a tier 10 and essentially rigging 5k averages against serial AFK's, bots, and tardigans? 

 

WG is going down a very slippery slope and didn't think this through enough.

My guess is that it will use your overall short term wr without regard for which tank you use. Otherwise a tier 2 player with a run of good luck in one tank could use your method in reverse, defeating their purpose.

 

Of course someone could be that lucky overall or intentionally trash their stats. I want that kind of luck on my team and wouldn’t miss the other guy. (Or just set up a new alt account and buy two tanks?) I suspect that we will still see the clueless and unlucky, but not for as long. It won’t perfect however it turns out.

 

[twirlingtowardsfreedom]

Dark_Magician_Girl, on 13 August 2019 - 10:10 PM, said:

 

yeah, and then I'll just play my tier 2 tank again until I get stuck in the morons queue.  Rinse and repeat.  Easy.  After I've finished rigging, I can just go back to seal clubbing and fix the WR of low tier tanks easily.  

 

See what I mean?  It really is no skin off my back

 

I wouldn't do this myself, but I'm saying someone will.  A lot of people will once they realize it.

 

Don't you think people will just get bored as hell and not do that? Playing against bots at tier 2 for X amount of games sounds awful. With the cheating Onoa riggers they still had the challenge of avoiding 5 reds and winning a battle for some stimulation. 

 

I think HoF should be pretty safe as long as people can demonstrate that each red player had a  games played history/aka not bots.

 

[EL_Din_46]

Absolute_Sniper, on 13 August 2019 - 03:20 PM, said:

Now if the game gave a message once you got moved queues, that might work. Something like: “You are being moved to the noob queue because you suck bad at this tank game. Figure it out muppet”.

 

Tempting, very tempting.

 

Absolute_Sniper, on 13 August 2019 - 03:20 PM, said:

Followed with a dunce cap attachment with NOOB is big red letters that gets permanently installed for every game in the noob queue. 

 

No, couldn’t agree. My playing has improved (hey, average is a valid goal) but needs to be a lot better. And pointy hats would clash with my camo.

Edited by EL_Din_46, 13 August 2019 - 11:47 PM.

[_Cletus]

Dark_Magician_Girl, on 13 August 2019 - 04:10 PM, said:

 

yeah, and then I'll just play my tier 2 tank again until I get stuck in the morons queue.  Rinse and repeat.  Easy.  After I've finished rigging, I can just go back to seal clubbing and fix the WR of low tier tanks easily.  

 

See what I mean?  It really is no skin off my back

 

I wouldn't do this myself, but I'm saying someone will.  A lot of people will once they realize it.

 

But, but....you're killing my fantasy here!  A beautiful fantasy where serial afkers have their own queue where every match ends in a draw.

[Ronin_23]

I'm just wondering what the bar is, though I know we'll never get the details. I already see teams loaded with low 40s. I don't think effectively taking out all the 30%ers would really have much impact on the game.