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Is the T54E1 in Need of a Buff?

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AOT_Jaeger2 #1 Posted 16 August 2019 - 11:08 PM

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Greetings All,

 

Its been a while, but I’ve been playing again. I’m continuing my grueling exodus through the quagmire of utter mediocrity that is the Tier IX American autoloader. And whoo boy! It is just utterly...mediocre. It’s not terrible, but it’s not really all that good. Now, I won’t claim to be the best player in the world, and I’ve only had the 105mm for about 20 games thus far. But here’s my breakdown of the Pros and Cons of this vehicle:

 

Pros:

- Solid HP pool for a Tier IX medium, much less an autoloader. 1750 with the HP upgrade is very very good.

- Trollish armor, especially in the turret front.

- 230mm of AP pen is solid, not amazing, but perfectly serviceable.

- 930 burst damage in 5 secs is pretty ok (below is the * on that)

- Has the durability and armor to bully lower tiered tanks.

 

Cons:

- Outside of troll bounces (even on Tier X TDs) the armor is poor. The side and rear armor (especially on the turret) gets perforated, and the hull is just about useless due to the massive lower glacis.

Huge profile and awful camo rating combined with meh view range mean enemies likely get the drop on you 9/10 times.

- 310/260 alpha is just not enough, especially if enemies force you into trading (which almost all will). Without an HE shell, quickly taking out dangerous Borsigs, WTs, and Grilles is simply not possible. 

- Turret ring is vulnerable, and is often damaged.

- Speed and mobility are not very good.

- Gun depression and elevation are restrictive.

- Gun is utterly unreliable, often 1-2 shots per magazine will simply bounce or miss completely, even with full equipment.

- Stock grind is appalling, the 90mm basically requires one to fire gold at any Tier IX-X tank to pen reliably. Mobility also painful.

 

So in conclusion, I feel the cons outweigh the pros for this tank. While it isn’t awful, it simply doesn’t feel competitive at a tier that is largely very balanced and competitive. Personally, a buff to 350 alpha and/or the addition of some even semi-decent HE would make the gun much more powerful offensively. 

 

As of now, the T54E1 plays like a big, sluggish target. Often focused due to being an autoloader, but not really having quite enough firepower to match that status and large and vulnerable body.


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oicram1 #2 Posted 17 August 2019 - 12:21 AM

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I am in the first quarter of the T54E1 grind. It feels like a tank that needs something. I am purely doing it for the T57, which I hope is worth it. I have heard the pros and cons of eta T57 and the AMX 50 B, still not sure if I made the right choice. 

 

It does need a kick, IMO, in the alpha, or something.


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Kiilu #3 Posted 17 August 2019 - 02:13 AM

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good tank

j0nn0 #4 Posted 17 August 2019 - 03:15 AM

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If they un-nerfed the alpha back to what it used to be it'd be more competitive. As it is now, it's more of a joyride for some more experienced players but more often than not the french lights do its job better. 

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AntoineDodson #5 Posted 17 August 2019 - 01:58 PM

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I’m driving this tank now. Without looking I believe I’m around the 60% range which I’m happy with.

 

I actually enjoy it as it forces me to play slower than normal. The same as the Amx 50 100 that I’m also grinding.

 

At times the T54E1 definitely doesn’t seem very strong, you just have to really try hard to find a place you can deal damage and not get destroyed.


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AOT_Jaeger2 #6 Posted 17 August 2019 - 03:35 PM

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View Postoicram1, on 16 August 2019 - 07:21 PM, said:

I am in the first quarter of the T54E1 grind. It feels like a tank that needs something. I am purely doing it for the T57, which I hope is worth it. I have heard the pros and cons of eta T57 and the AMX 50 B, still not sure if I made the right choice. 

 

It does need a kick, IMO, in the alpha, or something.

 

View Postj0nn0, on 16 August 2019 - 10:15 PM, said:

If they un-nerfed the alpha back to what it used to be it'd be more competitive. As it is now, it's more of a joyride for some more experienced players but more often than not the french lights do its job better. 

 

View PostAntoineDodson, on 17 August 2019 - 08:58 AM, said:

I’m driving this tank now. Without looking I believe I’m around the 60% range which I’m happy with.

 

I actually enjoy it as it forces me to play slower than normal. The same as the Amx 50 100 that I’m also grinding.

 

At times the T54E1 definitely doesn’t seem very strong, you just have to really try hard to find a place you can deal damage and not get destroyed.


I agree, it seems most players want it to have a proper 350 alpha. Boosting its clip potential from 930 to 1050 is a welcome choice, and it makes trading a lot more palatable.


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AKWolf1 #7 Posted 17 August 2019 - 07:09 PM

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It’s a good tank if you’re playing support role to the mediums or the heavies.  I always use the track-em method with this auto-loader, as with other ones, whenever possible. Keep shooting that front drive wheel so you can get three solid hits on them.  This also gives your teammates a chance to get in a shot as well.  





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