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AKWolf1 #1 Posted 11 September 2019 - 03:17 AM

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I’m foching tired of seeing the Foch.  WG needs to foching fix the Foch.  It is foching broken.  The foching Foch is quicker then many meds.  The foching Foch DPM is a foching joke for a TD.  For fochs sake WG.....fix the foching Foch would you!!!!!!!

Morphman11 #2 Posted 11 September 2019 - 03:31 AM

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It’s mediocre at best. Still better to deal with compared to a 183.

AKWolf1 #3 Posted 11 September 2019 - 03:51 AM

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View PostMorphman11, on 11 September 2019 - 03:31 AM, said:

It’s mediocre at best. Still better to deal with compared to a 183.

183 ain’t nothing to fear anymore.  Most people using this tank are clueless and have a 45% WR in it and a paltry 1500 DPG.  They only play so they can get that one “boom” shot every 5 games. I can deal as much damage as they can, or more, in a three round clip from my AMX 50B.  



AntoineDodson #4 Posted 11 September 2019 - 03:56 AM

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Needs a nerf for sure. They are changing how tier 10 plays. They are getting into spots where normally only meds go and just dominating.
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OKA_BOCTOKA #5 Posted 11 September 2019 - 06:42 AM

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Haven't been too pleased with seeing fochs in my 62a which I started playing recently. I'm only really getting into tier 10 with a tier 10 tank and for some reason I'm having trouble facing foch head on, while with other tanks even against heavies its fine.

 

For some reason the gun just can't pen the front at all, even when I use HEAT. Typically if I end up with a foch and the guy rushes me, I can't seem to pen it. They usually come over some crest so I'm shooting my first shot from below,  aiming at the lower plate, but the gun just doesn't go through. It hits the upper plate slightly even though I'm zoomed in and aiming and its happening at close range too. The cupola maybe goes in 3/10 times with HEAT mid range, and up close that doesn't work at all.. I cant outmaneuver it either. Its very quick and if rushed, it can chase me down while presenting frontal armour which I cant reliably go through. 

 

On the other hand I don't often get in situations where I brawl with it head on, but if it does happen, say team is melting and a foch rushes me, I can't turn the tide against it. Tracking works of course, but every foch seems to be carrying two repair kits so until you get those 2 shots off if you manage, you're pretty much spent.

 

I'm a decent player mind you, but I do expect it to be slightly nerfed because it currently stands too good of a chance against russian bias.


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__V_O_P__ #6 Posted 11 September 2019 - 09:46 AM

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DPM is okay. Accuracy sucks. But yes! Why so fast?

___ez_e___ #7 Posted 11 September 2019 - 11:36 AM

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In the right hands, you’re foched if a Foch is on red.  

 

I’ve been bouncing a lot of AP shells off the middle of the range finder.  I can’t recall the last time it actually penned.  



RonaldusMaximus_ #8 Posted 11 September 2019 - 12:34 PM

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I think it was more balanced when it had that weak spot on the front. Since the buff they can just sit there and bounce shot after shot instead of making use of that speed. Now they have the speed and the armor buff. Like a faster Tortoise

Edited by RonaldusMaximus_, 11 September 2019 - 12:35 PM.

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Mako__Reizei___ #9 Posted 11 September 2019 - 01:03 PM

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Lower max speed of Foch by 10 kmh

Reduce either hull traverse by 5 degrees per second or make the terrain resistance worse

And make that rangefinder at the top actually pennable

 

Should make the Foch 155 balanced for you medium drivers out there. Also agree that Foch is kinda op because I can't pen unless I switch to HEAT in my E100 (which means that it's got tough armor for a tank that moves that fast)


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AKWolf1 #10 Posted 11 September 2019 - 02:11 PM

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View Post__V_O_P__, on 11 September 2019 - 09:46 AM, said:

DPM is okay. Accuracy sucks. But yes! Why so fast?

Accuracy doesn’t matter when they’re pushing to the front lines.  I rarely see one playing as a long range sniper anymore, unless it’s a newbie playing it.  Hell the last 90 days on blitzstars it’s showing it with a 1.09 spot rate.  That’s nuts for a TD. 



AntoineDodson #11 Posted 11 September 2019 - 02:18 PM

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View PostAKWolf1, on 11 September 2019 - 08:11 AM, said:

Accuracy doesn’t matter when they’re pushing to the front lines.  I rarely see one playing as a long range sniper anymore, unless it’s a newbie playing it.  Hell the last 90 days on blitzstars it’s showing it with a 1.09 spot rate.  That’s nuts for a TD. 

 

Yeah they are literally leading the pack with the meds. It is freaking stupid.

 

Fast, great armor, big gun. Hmmm, makes sense right?????

 

And of course, in EVERY single tier 10 game. At the least, 8/10.


Edited by AntoineDodson, 11 September 2019 - 02:19 PM.

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WrenchThrower281 #12 Posted 11 September 2019 - 03:42 PM

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Tier x these days.... That's typical. It's friggin ridiculous that we went from meds being able to punish over zealous yolo rushing fools in non turreted tds (or lonely back campers) to not even being able to run the fk away from them. They take pen away and tell us to flank. So we flank and run into 263s fochs, 268 that just turn and drive straight at you. They need to limit tds to 2 per a team, and just make people playing them wait in queue longer. Or just nerf tds like they did meds when they were "too popular".

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View PostAntoineDodson, on 11 September 2019 - 02:18 PM, said:

 

Yeah they are literally leading the pack with the meds. It is freaking stupid.

 

Fast, great armor, big gun. Hmmm, makes sense right?????

 

And of course, in EVERY single tier 10 game. At the least, 8/10.

It's the reason why I proposed the nerfs on my previous comments, making the Foch turn significantly slower and reducing its overall speed would make it mobile enough to just keep up with mediums. It's just stupid when you have a grille that sacrifices accuracy for increased speed, armor and hull traverse, making it so much more consistent on the battlefield.


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Immel_man #14 Posted 11 September 2019 - 03:50 PM

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View PostOKA_BOCTOKA, on 11 September 2019 - 06:42 AM, said:

 

 

For some reason the gun just can't pen the front at all, even when I use HEAT. Typically if I end up with a foch and the guy rushes me, I can't seem to pen it. On the other hand I don't often get in situations where I brawl with it head on, but if it does happen, say team is melting and a foch rushes me, I can't turn the tide against it. Tracking works of course, but every foch seems to be carrying two repair kits so until you get those 2 shots off if you manage, you're pretty much spent.

 

 

It’s got 3 other sides. 



RonaldusMaximus_ #15 Posted 11 September 2019 - 03:53 PM

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View PostImmel_man, on 11 September 2019 - 10:50 AM, said:

It’s got 3 other sides. 

 

technically its got 5 other sides.


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BorisBaddenov #16 Posted 11 September 2019 - 03:54 PM

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View PostRonaldusMaximus_, on 11 September 2019 - 08:53 AM, said:

 

technically its got 5 other sides.

 

6 - you forgot one.

 

 

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I’ve noticed a strong lack of Spare Parts. Is that intended?

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RonaldusMaximus_ #17 Posted 11 September 2019 - 03:56 PM

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View PostBorisBaddenov, on 11 September 2019 - 10:54 AM, said:

 

6 - you forgot one.

 

 

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Uh... the key word was other


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BorisBaddenov #18 Posted 11 September 2019 - 03:58 PM

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View PostRonaldusMaximus_, on 11 September 2019 - 08:56 AM, said:

 

Uh... the key word was other

 

I know - but you still forgot one :)

 

 

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I’ve noticed a strong lack of Spare Parts. Is that intended?

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_LOONA #19 Posted 11 September 2019 - 06:08 PM

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I think the gun on the foch is fine but im not fine with how fast that tank goes with how much armor it has. 

 


trogvision #20 Posted 11 September 2019 - 07:29 PM

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Take a shot of vodka every time op says foching.
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