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halygon #1 Posted 11 September 2019 - 02:35 PM

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Looking over my tanks at which ones I could go back to and up the WR on, I saw my Tier 1/2 tanks were all over the place and figured I could jump on them, play a number of games and bump that WR up on the low ones.  I mean keep in mind I haven't even looked at those tiers since 2015/2016 when I first started.

 

I found that no matter how long I waited and no matter how many players were shown in queue, I never was placed in a game.

 

Is this by design to keep vets out? 

 

Seems odd seeing how a new line of tanks could come out and it kind of prevents you from grinding outside of just using free exp.  Also seems odd because at Tier 2 that means I have a number of premiums that are impossible to play.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

 


Edited by halygon, 11 September 2019 - 02:40 PM.


cheesehead247365 #2 Posted 11 September 2019 - 02:39 PM

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why would you want to play anything below 6?

FallenCabbage3 #3 Posted 11 September 2019 - 02:40 PM

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You should be able to... but if I remember correctly didn’t wg make a special mm for new player so that only new players would fight new players? And not old vs new? If I am right you might not have had any old players to fight against, so you weren’t put in a game. And the players you saw in que were the new players, but they were in a different mm loop. If you get what I’m saying lol. Also, take this  with a grain of salt  Lol

halygon #4 Posted 11 September 2019 - 02:44 PM

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View Postcheesehead247365, on 11 September 2019 - 02:39 PM, said:

why would you want to play anything below 6?

Well I usually don't, just wanted to bump up my WR on some of those tanks.  I haven't played any of these since the beginning of 2016.


 

halygon #5 Posted 11 September 2019 - 02:45 PM

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View PostFallenCabbage3, on 11 September 2019 - 02:40 PM, said:

You should be able to... but if I remember correctly didn’t wg make a special mm for new player so that only new players would fight new players? And not old vs new? If I am right you might not have had any old players to fight against, so you weren’t put in a game. And the players you saw in que were the new players, but they were in a different mm loop. If you get what I’m saying lol. Also, take this  with a grain of salt  Lol

Yeah that is what I was thinking... meaning that is is not possible for a veteran to play T1/T2.



Fu_Manchu_ #6 Posted 11 September 2019 - 02:52 PM

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I can say with certainty that tier 3 and up still see veteran players. My daughters are both below 5k battles and occasionally get seal clubbers with tens of thousands of battles. But they're playing tier 3, so I can't speak for tier 1 and 2.

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_Cletus #7 Posted 11 September 2019 - 02:54 PM

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Here's the good news:  If you get 13 of your clanmates to play tier 1 tanks at the same time, it'll most likely be just you guys in the game.  Use discord with it and I bet it'll be more fun than a gaggle of soccer butts.

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halygon #8 Posted 11 September 2019 - 03:04 PM

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View PostFu_Manchu_, on 11 September 2019 - 02:52 PM, said:

I can say with certainty that tier 3 and up still see veteran players. My daughters are both below 5k battles and occasionally get seal clubbers with tens of thousands of battles. But they're playing tier 3, so I can't speak for tier 1 and 2.

Yeah I can definitely get into Tier 3 games... just Tier 1 and 2 are troublesome.

 

 

View Post_Cletus, on 11 September 2019 - 02:54 PM, said:

Here's the good news:  If you get 13 of your clanmates to play tier 1 tanks at the same time, it'll most likely be just you guys in the game.  Use discord with it and I bet it'll be more fun than a gaggle of soccer butts.

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RonaldusMaximus_ #9 Posted 11 September 2019 - 03:26 PM

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View Post_Cletus, on 11 September 2019 - 09:54 AM, said:

Here's the good news:  If you get 13 of your clanmates to play tier 1 tanks at the same time, it'll most likely be just you guys in the game.  Use discord with it and I bet it'll be more fun than a gaggle of soccer butts.

 

This is actually a very good idea!


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RoadKutter #10 Posted 11 September 2019 - 04:17 PM

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Sure you can. Do you by any chance have same control mode turned on? Because if you do that could be your problem. Anyone should be able to play any tier especially with new lines coming out. Heck I just Aced my Pz.2 yesterday.

                         

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twirlingtowardsfreedom #11 Posted 11 September 2019 - 04:26 PM

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i feel your pain. Playing below tier 5 right now isn't fun at all, but the odd x5 tank or rehab goal shouldn't force you to sit for a half hour queue. RoadKutter is dead on too - if you have same control mode activated you'll make the process exponentially harder. Try for peak times (post school through dinner) and take that mode off, let us know.

MudkipAtWar #12 Posted 11 September 2019 - 05:41 PM

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mm takes longer but ive gotten games while doing the same thing, but with new players, as evidenced by the 13k wn8 i got in the m2 medium in 2 games. I refuse to believe i got that against experienced players

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halygon #13 Posted 11 September 2019 - 06:11 PM

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View PostRoadKutter, on 11 September 2019 - 04:17 PM, said:

Sure you can. Do you by any chance have same control mode turned on? Because if you do that could be your problem. Anyone should be able to play any tier especially with new lines coming out. Heck I just Aced my Pz.2 yesterday.

 

View Posttwirlingtowardsfreedom, on 11 September 2019 - 04:26 PM, said:

i feel your pain. Playing below tier 5 right now isn't fun at all, but the odd x5 tank or rehab goal shouldn't force you to sit for a half hour queue. RoadKutter is dead on too - if you have same control mode activated you'll make the process exponentially harder. Try for peak times (post school through dinner) and take that mode off, let us know.

I do have same control mode turned on.   I turned it off and suddenly insta matches... so its just impossible to play mobile only tier 1 & tier 2 matches.  Apparently plenty of t1/2 players on PC ;)

 

Thanks guys!


Edited by halygon, 11 September 2019 - 07:35 PM.


boppinbobby #14 Posted 11 September 2019 - 06:33 PM

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View Postcheesehead247365, on 11 September 2019 - 06:39 AM, said:

why would you want to play anything below 6?

As a clan leader you get asked to toon at any tier, such is the spread of ability. 


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Glad you got it fixed. I’ve been slowly grinding my outlier low tiers to 100 battles and have been doing the light Vic. Conviwnt as I don’t play higher tiers on my phone at work. Wait time is usuall 10 sec to 1.5 mins depending on time of day. 

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EL_Din_46 #16 Posted 12 September 2019 - 04:30 AM

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Although both screenshots would allow T 1/2 battles, by the time you got to 39:44 you were down to 70 players in the queue. Maybe battles could be formed at T 4/5 and T 6/7 but there could be a long wait even for them. I haven’t seen queues that small but if I did probably would find something else to do. So, yes, come back at a better time, everybody.  And bring a friend.

 

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ironconch25 #17 Posted 12 September 2019 - 09:00 PM

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View Posthalygon, on 11 September 2019 - 06:11 PM, said:

 

I do have same control mode turned on.   I turned it off and suddenly insta matches... so its just impossible to play mobile only tier 1 & tier 2 matches.  Apparently plenty of t1/2 players on PC ;)

 

Thanks guys!


Good to know that turning off same control mode will decrease the wait time. Thanks! This will come in handy with the new European line. I was not looking forward to the wait times nor free xp’ing for low tiers.



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It is pretty difficult in those low tiers to get a match.





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