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IS-2Sh Armor bug

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IS2_1 #1 Posted 27 September 2019 - 05:47 PM

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I bought the IS-2Sh in a bundle with the Chrysler K, and noticed quickly that the IS-2Sh was performing sub-par to almost any tank I was fighting; it was as if I had no armor whatsoever other then occasionally getting a bounce off the turret and upper front plate.  So I got someone else to go into a training room with me and test the armor on the IS-2Sh. 

 

By watching the video, you will notice quickly that something is very off; the side plate can easily ricochet shells, but shooting anywhere on the tracks produces a penetration. 

 

I am not saying the tracks getting hit causes damage to the tank. I believe the armor model is bugged in which shooting in the area where the tracks are has a much lower armor value then is intended for the tank, which results in almost any tank being able to penetrate it with ease. 

 

I especially suspect this especially due to the inherent design for the tank; the rear facing turret and weak bottom plate yet strong side plates (excluding the tracks obviously) seem to indicate this tank is designed for sidescraping, and yet this is not feasible due to the extremely weak sides.

 

If anyone has any info on if this is intentional or not would be greatly appreciated, as well as any other info regarding this tank that would be useful (I don't really see any "good" parts about this tank, other then possibly the gun.)

 

 



IS2_1 #2 Posted 27 September 2019 - 05:52 PM

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Heres the video, did not post with the topic for some reason.



__Frostbite #3 Posted 27 September 2019 - 05:55 PM

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More reason that the tank is absolute trash
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Mr_Qwertyxsad #4 Posted 27 September 2019 - 06:22 PM

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This tank is honestly designed fro a different meta.  I can count on two sets of hands the tanks it would face that can pen it like butter on most angles you would encounter it on, and some are easily accessable for the playerbase.  The Lowe, the Rhm, the WT, Skorp, and a couple others can very easily pen the thing based upon my experience seeing teamates delete the IS 2SH or myself using my Lowe or WT to do that as well.

 

Other than that, it is not a bad tank.  Sidescrape is the playstyle this tank works best in, and nothing should be changed in that respect.


 

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DestructSean #5 Posted 27 September 2019 - 06:26 PM

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Have you looked at the armor in Armor Inspector or on Blitzhangar.com? The area behind the tracks is 60 mm. It’s an easy pen at 69 degrees right through the tracks. The very bottom could get some bounces in a small area, but the rest is pennable. Easy target even when you’re side scraping if someone knows where to shoot. 

_Cletus #6 Posted 27 September 2019 - 06:46 PM

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Except for having weak armor, a rear turret, poor mobility, a russian gun, and being a tier higher than it should, it's a fine tank.

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IS2_1 #7 Posted 27 September 2019 - 09:03 PM

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View Post_Cletus, on 27 September 2019 - 01:46 PM, said:

Except for having weak armor, a rear turret, poor mobility, a russian gun, and being a tier higher than it should, it's a fine tank.

 

Its not exactly a tank one would consider, "good", by any stretch of the imagination.

 

I can't say I'm entirely disappointed though, I did get the Chrysler with it too.



j0nn0 #8 Posted 27 September 2019 - 09:05 PM

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The armor isn't bugged, the armor just plain sucks. Especially when anything that the armor would be relevant against could easily blitz you and flank to get a shot in.

I may have a few too many tanks. I think I was over 150 in garage by last count.


_Cletus #9 Posted 27 September 2019 - 09:07 PM

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View PostIS2_1, on 27 September 2019 - 03:03 PM, said:

 

Its not exactly a tank one would consider, "good", by any stretch of the imagination.

 

I can't say I'm entirely disappointed though, I did get the Chrysler with it too.

 

This is a premium in need of a buff.  But I can see why you bought it IS2


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IS2_1 #10 Posted 27 September 2019 - 09:15 PM

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View PostDestructSean, on 27 September 2019 - 01:26 PM, said:

Have you looked at the armor in Armor Inspector or on Blitzhangar.com? The area behind the tracks is 60 mm. It’s an easy pen at 69 degrees right through the tracks. The very bottom could get some bounces in a small area, but the rest is pennable. Easy target even when you’re side scraping if someone knows where to shoot. 


I don't have Armor Inspector unfortunately; thank you for the info however. I didn't know how thin it was at the tracks since it only says the thickness of the upper part of the side plate.



IS2_1 #11 Posted 27 September 2019 - 09:18 PM

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View PostMr_Qwertyxsad, on 27 September 2019 - 01:22 PM, said:

This tank is honestly designed fro a different meta.  I can count on two sets of hands the tanks it would face that can pen it like butter on most angles you would encounter it on, and some are easily accessable for the playerbase.  The Lowe, the Rhm, the WT, Skorp, and a couple others can very easily pen the thing based upon my experience seeing teamates delete the IS 2SH or myself using my Lowe or WT to do that as well.

 

Other than that, it is not a bad tank.  Sidescrape is the playstyle this tank works best in, and nothing should be changed in that respect.


Yeah most of the time if you're facing another heavy they will easily penetrate you, it doesn't have the armor to really go head to head against most other heavies. Paper bottom plate+paper sides makes for a crappy armor layout.



DestructSean #12 Posted 27 September 2019 - 09:54 PM

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View PostIS2_1, on 27 September 2019 - 09:15 PM, said:


I don't have Armor Inspector unfortunately; thank you for the info however. I didn't know how thin it was at the tracks since it only says the thickness of the upper part of the side plate.


Go to www.blitzhangar.com. You’ll have a plethora of information about all the tanks and their armor. 



Sepp_Ulrich #13 Posted 28 September 2019 - 11:47 AM

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My WR with this tank is 55%. It´s a good tank if you know how to use it. Try harder.
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TO_Dominator #14 Posted 28 September 2019 - 02:30 PM

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View PostSepp_Ulrich, on 28 September 2019 - 06:47 AM, said:

My WR with this tank is 55%. It´s a good tank if you know how to use it. Try harder.

 

You also only manage to fire less than 3 effective shots per battle with it.

The tank is garbage. The gun sucks, the armor sucks, as well as the traverse and power to weight ratio. 


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AKWolf1 #15 Posted 28 September 2019 - 05:35 PM

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View PostSepp_Ulrich, on 28 September 2019 - 11:47 AM, said:

My WR with this tank is 55%. It´s a good tank if you know how to use it. Try harder.

Your 55% WR is because you are being carried.  Doing 1,169 DPG is not carrying your own weight (hit pool).  I too have a 55% WR, but am much closer to carrying my weight in it at 1,526 DPG.  The tank is tough to master effectively, but knowing how to angle it is the key.  



GrossPanzer1970 #16 Posted 30 September 2019 - 02:19 AM

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View PostSepp_Ulrich, on 28 September 2019 - 06:47 AM, said:

My WR with this tank is 55%. It´s a good tank if you know how to use it. Try harder.

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Ronin_23 #17 Posted 30 September 2019 - 05:24 AM

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55% isn't what good players should be getting in a tier 8 anyway. If that's the bar for good with this tank then it's just even more proof how bad it is.





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