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IronBehemoth #1 Posted 14 November 2019 - 10:13 PM

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just got this tank. could use a dpm buff. its bone stock but the top gun is only 40 dpm more, and i shouldnt be able to have t7 meds yolo and cuck me because i'm the only paper tank that lacks both speed and dpm in the game.

 

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j_rod #2 Posted 14 November 2019 - 10:20 PM

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View PostIronBehemoth, on 14 November 2019 - 04:13 PM, said:

just got this tank. could use a dpm buff. its bone stock but the top gun is only 40 dpm more, and i shouldnt be able to have t7 meds yolo and cuck me because i'm the only paper tank that lacks both speed and dpm in the game.

 

What would make this tank nice would be a higher alpha gun similar to the Rev or even the Type 61. Even with the gun depression, the 225 alpha just doesn't cut it given the lack of armor and DPM.

 

Not that I have a lot of them in my garage, but any tank that has a purple WN8 and a light green WN7 tells me that it's probably in need of some love. 


 

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IronBehemoth #3 Posted 14 November 2019 - 10:22 PM

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after close examination i have discovered the real reason for the prog 46 having higher dpm, higher alpha, an autoreloading gun, better mobility, better armor, better acceleration, twice the average damage per battle, better profile, and better traverse; the sta-1 has 1 more degree of gun depression. yes, what an op advantage. 

progetto 46's, prepare to get dabbed on with my 1 degree more gun depression.


Edited by IronBehemoth, 14 November 2019 - 10:22 PM.


__Crusader6__ #4 Posted 14 November 2019 - 10:22 PM

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It is a second line med, which in today’s environment means you just need to cringe when hitting battle. 
 

It is a decent ridge fighter, as the paper turret does troll a lot of bounces due to angles when at depression.  


 
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__Crusader6__ #5 Posted 14 November 2019 - 10:25 PM

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View PostIronBehemoth, on 14 November 2019 - 05:22 PM, said:

after close examination i have discovered the real reason for the prog 46 having higher dpm, higher alpha, an autoreloading gun, better mobility, better armor, better acceleration, twice the average damage per battle, better profile, and better traverse; the sta-1 has 1 more degree of gun depression. yes, what an op advantage. 

progetto 46's, prepare to get dabbed on with my 1 degree more gun depression.


I lol’d.  


 
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_warL0rd_ #6 Posted 15 November 2019 - 12:50 AM

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View Post__Crusader6__, on 14 November 2019 - 10:22 PM, said:

It is a second line med, which in today’s environment means you just need to cringe when hitting battle. 
 

It is a decent ridge fighter, as the paper turret does troll a lot of bounces due to angles when at depression.  

that sounds great on paper, but in reality no one sits in the open and lets you peck them over and over for 225 from behind a ridge.. in tier7 8 or 9.. not usually.

 

in fact you would more likley get rushed behind that ridge and rekd while the rest of your greens wank it in some bushes nearby or are afk. whoever put this tank in the game in its current state and called it balanced is on crack. If you give it such weak alpha, at least give it the ability to run away or fight back.



Godzillacus #7 Posted 15 November 2019 - 01:44 AM

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View Post_warL0rd_, on 15 November 2019 - 12:50 AM, said:

 at least give it the ability to run away

 

I think this, tank just has nothing to special to exploit.  I have over 700 battles in it with just 52% wr (some extreme noob stats at begining my play) and have never been able to play it well enough to carry. Support tank only.



__Frostbite #8 Posted 15 November 2019 - 06:24 AM

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a ha ha.

 

STA-1 is actually not a horrible tank. It's definitely workable. I think it could use a bit of a buff, maybe on its mobility. 

 

But there's no way the Progetto M35 should be faster, have an autoreloader with better accuracy, and have better armor. Sometimes, I wonder if the developers do tank v tank comparison when they're balancing tanks, or if they even play the game themselves and just throw some numbers up so that they get paid.


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Incogitable #9 Posted 15 November 2019 - 09:26 AM

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I am also in the middle of grinding this thing and it is not enjoyable. It would be nice if there was enough frontal armor for T49s to not just run up to you and slam HEAT through your UFP with imputiny.

___ez_e___ #10 Posted 15 November 2019 - 01:30 PM

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I actually enjoy playing this tank, but you got to really work it to have a good game.

 

Definitely a second line tank and it does work great ridge fighting.   
 

It takes more discipline to play then other tanks.  


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__Crusader6__ #11 Posted 15 November 2019 - 04:20 PM

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It has 100 less DPM than the Cent, but 5km/h faster. 
 It has 100+ DPM more than the Pershing, and yes the Pershing is 3km/h faster.  
 

STA-1  also has better AP pen than the Panther 2 and the Pershing. 
 

I didn’t enjoy the STA, and it could use a small buff, but so could the other 3 Meds I mentioned too.  
  Is it workable, sure, but far from ideal.  


P.S. where can I buy that Progento ;) 
 


 

 


 
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StarFox__McCloud #12 Posted 22 November 2019 - 07:36 PM

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View Post_warL0rd_, on 15 November 2019 - 12:50 AM, said:

that sounds great on paper, but in reality no one sits in the open and lets you peck them over and over for 225 from behind a ridge.. in tier7 8 or 9.. not usually.

 

in fact you would more likley get rushed behind that ridge and rekd while the rest of your greens wank it in some bushes nearby or are afk. whoever put this tank in the game in its current state and called it balanced is on crack. If you give it such weak alpha, at least give it the ability to run away or fight back.

Ain't that the nature of hull down tanks now. Sta is great if ur not swarmed by t49s looking for easy to burn stuff. The gun is just fantastic. It's just not an aggressive tank which sadly you need anymore to win.






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