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RommelTanker #1 Posted 16 November 2019 - 07:07 PM

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When is the god damned armor going to be fixed? Because a Tier 8 tank destroyer should not have better effective side armor than the frigging IS-7 in terms of eating shots when the armor is grey. AND DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT TELLING ME TO USE GOLD AMMO, you think I didn't already try and fail if I'm here complaining about it?


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View PostRommelTanker, on 16 November 2019 - 01:07 PM, said:

When is the god damned armor going to be fixed? Because a Tier 8 tank destroyer should not have better effective side armor than the frigging IS-7 in terms of eating shots when the armor is grey. AND DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT TELLING ME TO USE GOLD AMMO, you think I didn't already try and fail if I'm here complaining about it?


Say what? Better side armor?


 

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RommelTanker #3 Posted 16 November 2019 - 08:05 PM

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View Postj_rod, on 16 November 2019 - 11:18 AM, said:


Say what? Better side armor?

In similar fashion to how the IS-7 has two strips of virtually impenetrable black hole armor on its sides, the WZ has the same thing. The difference is that the sides of the IS-7 are troll at best, whereas the WZ-120's sides are better than its frontal armor at absorbing sullbhit shots.


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DestructSean #4 Posted 16 November 2019 - 10:10 PM

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The Smasher’s HEAT will pen it every time.
 

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tankeatingtiger #6 Posted 17 November 2019 - 12:03 AM

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View PostRommelTanker, on 16 November 2019 - 03:05 PM, said:

In similar fashion to how the IS-7 has two strips of virtually impenetrable black hole armor on its sides, the WZ has the same thing. The difference is that the sides of the IS-7 are troll at best, whereas the WZ-120's sides are better than its frontal armor at absorbing sullbhit shots.

I think he was sarcastically suggesting that it should get better side armor, but yea I feel you. Playing lights and meds is a pain because this thing just chews them up, you can't fully circle it and you can't pen the front or sides. Meanwhile it's OP gun is just shredding you apart.


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View Posttankeatingtiger, on 16 November 2019 - 06:03 PM, said:

I think he was sarcastically suggesting that it should get better side armor, but yea I feel you. Playing lights and meds is a pain because this thing just chews them up, you can't fully circle it and you can't pen the front or sides. Meanwhile it's OP gun is just shredding you apart.


I honestly wasn’t sure what he meant by his post till he explained it. I looked it up on armor inspector and saw what he was talking about but that’s the first time I had ever noticed it. Guess I was too focused on the problems caused by business end of the tank.


 

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tankeatingtiger #8 Posted 17 November 2019 - 12:23 AM

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View Postj_rod, on 16 November 2019 - 07:10 PM, said:


I honestly wasn’t sure what he meant by his post till he explained it. I looked it up on armor inspector and saw what he was talking about but that’s the first time I had ever noticed it. Guess I was too focused on the problems caused by business end of the tank.

Yea it's pretty nasty. It's hard to even get to the side of it. 

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_ArmoredGlassCannon #9 Posted 18 November 2019 - 04:50 AM

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Tbh, when they were testing that tank, they should’ve remove the spaced armor section of its sides and tone down the engine power of that tank.

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__ShootTheOtherGuy__ #10 Posted 18 November 2019 - 08:18 AM

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If I recall correctly, this tank wasn’t even in the supertest

minitel_NA #11 Posted 18 November 2019 - 02:25 PM

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View Post__ShootTheOtherGuy__, on 18 November 2019 - 08:18 AM, said:

If I recall correctly, this tank wasn’t even in the supertest


when you decide to go super OP, why even bothering measuring how OP it is ? Just up every spec one more round, and you are done with the testing.
 


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dport02 #12 Posted 18 November 2019 - 05:23 PM

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And people say P2W doesn’t exist in this game...

Jaq___ #13 Posted 18 November 2019 - 06:37 PM

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View Postdport02, on 18 November 2019 - 05:23 PM, said:

And people say P2W doesn’t exist in this game...

That was true for a very long time in this game. Premiums were usually not quite as good as tech tree equivalents or even to slightly better in some cases. For the last year or so, clearly the switch has been made to premiums being much better than tech tree...Smasher...WZ FT...etc. Nothing wrong with that from a business model, but its definitely a philosophical shift. 


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View PostJaq___, on 18 November 2019 - 06:37 PM, said:

That was true for a very long time in this game. Premiums were usually not quite as good as tech tree equivalents or even to slightly better in some cases. For the last year or so, clearly the switch has been made to premiums being much better than tech tree...Smasher...WZ FT...etc. Nothing wrong with that from a business model, but its definitely a philosophical shift. 

Been true since they released the IS3 Defender.  Minor PTW elements have been in the game forever, but we are in the phase of the game's life cycle where the PTW elements are becoming more obvious.  Some of the tanks aren't just OP, they are ridiculously OP.  


 

 

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View Post__ShootTheOtherGuy__, on 18 November 2019 - 08:18 AM, said:

If I recall correctly, this tank wasn’t even in the supertest

 

...Jesus, WG.


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