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boris55555 #21 Posted 22 January 2020 - 09:04 PM

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View PostRibbleStripe, on 22 January 2020 - 03:42 PM, said:

 

Not exactly. Changes are possible for 6.8. But the decision if ATGM should stay or not will be taken after a couple of updates. 


they’re woeful. Remove them as soon as you can. 


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I agree with Ribble on this one. The ATGMs are very situational, it's the APCR rounds with their bonkers shell velocity that is proving to be so effective. However, mabye I should just play along with the ATGM hate so they don't nerf the thing's truly amazing characteristics into non-existence...

wrecker1968 #23 Posted 22 January 2020 - 09:08 PM

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You know there's a problem with the game when ribble shows up  More than a couple times in a one month period... And just remember how long it took them to fixed 3.8

Edited by wrecker1968, 22 January 2020 - 09:10 PM.


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View PostDestroy0, on 22 January 2020 - 04:05 PM, said:

I agree with Ribble on this one. The ATGMs are very situational, it's the APCR rounds with their bonkers shell velocity that is proving to be so effective. However, mabye I should just play along with the ATGM hate so they don't nerf the thing's truly amazing characteristics into non-existence...


take a way over cooked tank and give them magic powers too. The op ness of these tanks plus super powers is a problem. They would change the meta hugely even if they couldn’t cheat around corners. They have have the ability to suppress the opponent with their missiles and then relocate and dominate with their op light tank skills.

 

one or two around the corner missile shots penning tier x heavies across the map with zero danger of counter fire is a game changer. Now use as a super op tank. Rinse and repeat.

 

the way these tanks were included is absurd.


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RonaldusMaximus_ #25 Posted 22 January 2020 - 09:10 PM

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Last night I was in my T95 v 2 of those tier 9 atgm tanks and pulled off a win. They had a hard time penning me. I honestly have not had the same experience as some of you have had. I guess I am just lucky.

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boris55555 #26 Posted 22 January 2020 - 09:11 PM

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View Postwrecker1968, on 22 January 2020 - 04:08 PM, said:

You know there's a problem with the game when ribble shows up  More than a couple times in a one month period... And just remember how long it took them to fixed 3.8

The amount of time that it took to fix 3.8 was just dumb. Someone pray to the Sheridan that this doesn’t not take as long. 
 

wg: get off your [edited] and fix this. Not enough data? Then you’re not looking, playing, balancing, watching, listening nor reading. 


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I'm personally waiting for update 5.4.

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View Postwrecker1968, on 23 January 2020 - 12:08 AM, said:

You know there's a problem with the game when ribble shows up  More than a couple times in a one month period... And just remember how long it took them to fixed 3.8

 

Or i simply might come home after stream and want to find out what you guys think about everything said there. Just an option. 


 

 


boris55555 #29 Posted 22 January 2020 - 09:21 PM

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View PostRibbleStripe, on 22 January 2020 - 04:18 PM, said:

 

Or i simply might come home after stream and want to find out what you guys think about everything said there. Just an option. 


it’s a nice option. We actually appreciate it as I think some of us do not think wg listens to the player base and we’d actually like to see you around more. Probably not a fun part of your job. 
 

many of us are obviously pretty annoyed by the missile tanks and I think wg doesn’t have a good record of owning its mistakes: 3.8.


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Ribble, i'm sure we can all agree we appreciate you dropping in and providing some feedback.  

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View PostRibbleStripe, on 22 January 2020 - 03:18 PM, said:

 

Or i simply might come home after stream and want to find out what you guys think about everything said there. Just an option. 

 

Thank you for coming on to the forums and listening actively. That takes courage and shows character. 

 

I know that WG will make the decision that makes the most sense from a business standpoint as you should. My concern is that one of the biggest strengths of WG (making decisions based off data) could be detrimental in this case. Reason being, for the first time since the changes made in update 3.8, I see many long-time reasonable posters having severe issues with this mechanic and not wanting to play so waiting 2-3 updates could cause WG to lose said players. While I know you want to look at the data and how it plays out, this is an issue that goes beyond any basic KPI that can be measured over the short-term and into the fundamental mechanics of the game. Essentially, we've moved from checkers to chess and the change is transformational in nature. A change that is not welcome for many players. 

 

For me, this has caused me to start playing WOWB and I actually bought my first premium ship the other day, so maybe it's actually driving more revenue to WG's way. That  said, I don't think that's the intent here. 

 

My sincere hope is that WG makes a decision on the missiles in the next few weeks and that you decide it's not a good thing to have in a mobile game with limited controls via touchscreen. 


Edited by j_rod, 22 January 2020 - 09:37 PM.

 

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I think one fix for ATGM is to make them true Line of Sight weapons of the firing tank. Your tank must maintain direct visual on target (not spotted by a team mate) and keep the crosshair on it for entire duration of missile flight. No firing behind the hill crest. No shooting into the air and then moving crosshair back onto target.

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View PostGuderian5266, on 22 January 2020 - 02:29 PM, said:

I think one fix for ATGM is to make them true Line of Sight weapons of the firing tank. Your tank must maintain direct visual on target (not spotted by a team mate) and keep the crosshair on it for entire duration of missile flight. No firing behind the hill crest. No shooting into the air and then moving crosshair back onto target.

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RonaldusMaximus_ #34 Posted 22 January 2020 - 09:36 PM

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So Ribble... What about restoring the Forum link in the game client?

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View PostGuderian5266, on 22 January 2020 - 04:29 PM, said:

I think one fix for ATGM is to make them true Line of Sight weapons of the firing tank. Your tank must maintain direct visual on target (not spotted by a team mate) and keep the crosshair on it for entire duration of missile flight. No firing behind the hill crest. No shooting into the air and then moving crosshair back onto target.

But at that point it's just a heat round with garbage shell velocity.



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View PostRonaldusMaximus_, on 22 January 2020 - 04:36 PM, said:

So Ribble... What about restoring the Forum link in the game client?


sliding this in? I’d love it but bad timing as we all erupt in anger.


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View PostDestroy0, on 22 January 2020 - 04:37 PM, said:

But at that point it's just a heat round with garbage shell velocity.


0 dispersion? And tracking a moving target. 


Edited by boris55555, 22 January 2020 - 09:44 PM.

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*****“Ok”; I’m on hiatus *****:facepalm:

 


RonaldusMaximus_ #38 Posted 22 January 2020 - 09:44 PM

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View PostRonaldusMaximus_, on 22 January 2020 - 04:44 PM, said:

Like your signature Boris


stay on target. This isn't the den; praise me elsewhere 


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Ribble and his colleagues were pretty good in the stream, I thought. Clearly interested in the feedback coming in, aware of what is being said about the new tanks, and open to working with it. I'd encourage everyone who is trending more towards whining than replying to him to just watch the dang stream.

 

A *big* nugget of info dropped in the stream - can't recall if it was Ribble or the other developer - was that only 2 effective HEAT shots are being landed per game for these tanks, out of 8 total effective shots. We don't often get that type of detailed info and I was glad to hear it. If I had to guess, I think it is far more likely WG will look at small nerfs of the non-missile characteristics of these tanks and leave the ATGM aspect mostly alone.

 

BTW, continuing to evolve their UI, working at effective realistic mode tourneys, and switching to an all-credit advancement for the next event is a hard rebuttal of those that declare the game is shuttering soon.


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