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_Cletus #21 Posted 07 February 2020 - 02:28 AM

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Fun?  People say the same thing about the Smasher, it brings the fun back to the game.  That's because OP tanks are fun for the people driving, not fun for the guys getting killed by an unfair tank.  And that is why WG used to strive for balance.

 

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boppinbobby #22 Posted 07 February 2020 - 04:08 AM

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View Post_Cletus, on 06 February 2020 - 06:28 PM, said:

Fun?  People say the same thing about the Smasher, it brings the fun back to the game.  That's because OP tanks are fun for the people driving, not fun for the guys getting killed by an unfair tank.  And that is why WG used to strive for balance.

You know the smasher has armour, where the 92e1 has none right? It has a big gun and it's fast, that's all. 


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View Postboppinbobby, on 06 February 2020 - 11:08 PM, said:

You know the smasher has armour, where the 92e1 has none right? It has a big gun and it's fast, that's all. 


sure does get a lot of bounces for a light.


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View Posttedg5, on 06 February 2020 - 03:33 PM, said:

Seems our testing model is really at fault, can they not see any of these things during that phase? :facepalm:

Ding,ding,ding. We have a winner. Why isn’t everyone asking this question ? Way, WAY too many OP/over cooked tanks entering Blitz. The use of only elite players from only the top clans is clearly NOT WORKING !



boppinbobby #25 Posted 07 February 2020 - 05:18 AM

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View Postboris55555, on 06 February 2020 - 08:49 PM, said:


sure does get a lot of bounces for a light.

I agree the top plate is bouncy but the rest is like butter. Peeps have realized the side is spaced now so he doesn't work.

 


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_Cletus #26 Posted 07 February 2020 - 01:01 PM

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View Postboppinbobby, on 06 February 2020 - 10:08 PM, said:

You know the smasher has armour, where the 92e1 has none right? It has a big gun and it's fast, that's all. 

 

Honestly, the Smasher doesn't bother me so much, it's just a good example of another OP tank, but I find it easy to beat.  The 92e1 is fast, has missiles and shells, and can function as a light, a med, and a TD, all while having light camo.  And the armor, that it has none of, manages to bounce a lot more shells than any light should.  It's ridiculous to act like it's just another tank, the thing is OP as hell.  That's why it's so much fun for you.  It's not fun for the players in any other tanks that have to deal with them.  And this band-aid nerf isn't going to make much difference.


 

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Not addressing the lookout bar is on brand wg nonsense 

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_Cletus #28 Posted 07 February 2020 - 01:50 PM

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View Postboris55555, on 07 February 2020 - 07:24 AM, said:

Not addressing the lookout bar is on brand wg nonsense 

 

Yeah I'd really like to hear something about how they are removing the exploit.


 

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boppinbobby #29 Posted 07 February 2020 - 02:33 PM

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My win rate in it isn't any greater than other tanks, it's not that I'm dominating in it. Watching some of these Russian you tube videos I can see the high ceiling it is capable of, but I've never got much more than 4k damage. The DPM just doesn't allow it with my skill.

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_Cletus #30 Posted 07 February 2020 - 02:59 PM

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View Postboppinbobby, on 07 February 2020 - 08:33 AM, said:

My win rate in it isn't any greater than other tanks, it's not that I'm dominating in it. Watching some of these Russian you tube videos I can see the high ceiling it is capable of, but I've never got much more than 4k damage. The DPM just doesn't allow it with my skill.

 

Not every player is going to dominate in it.  When it finally gets nerfed/buffed to where it'll end up staying, it's going to turn into a unicum specialty.  Because unicum's need special tanks just for them to dominate the rest of the field.

 

The more I think about it, the more I think the answer is to give it a gun that shoots missiles and a separate gun that shoots shells.  The fact that they can go from missile trick shots to regular shells and back makes them too versatile.


 

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I'm 100% on board with the alpha damage nerf! 560 on a light tank is way too high. 490 seems about right! 

XXX_Corps #32 Posted 08 February 2020 - 09:06 PM

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The tier 9 has insane armor for a light. Bounced alot of 640 alpha shots.

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View PostXXX_Corps, on 08 February 2020 - 09:06 PM, said:

The tier 9 has insane armor for a light. Bounced alot of 640 alpha shots.

Very troll angle on the upper plate. Gotta hit the turret or lower plate. 


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View Post_Cletus, on 07 February 2020 - 08:50 AM, said:

 

Yeah I'd really like to hear something about how they are removing the exploit.


just unbelievable that they’re not doing it. 


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View Postboris55555, on 09 February 2020 - 05:20 AM, said:


just unbelievable that they’re not doing it. 

I’m guessing the data WG is collecting on missile hit rate, damage, etc is still skewed towards the thousands of nubs playing. I’m sure you’ve seen a missile tank parked in the back launching missiles at impossible angles. Sure they hit occasionally but more often than not they miss. This would lead WG to see it as a difficult system to use and likely to leave it be for now. Making it more difficult/realistic would upset the muppets. Upset muppets hurt the profit margins. My 2 cents


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View PostBorisBaddenov, on 06 February 2020 - 05:07 PM, said:

 

Oh .. WG knows exactly how OP those tanks are -- they are doing this on purpose -- putting out obvious OP tanks to generate excitement and get us to burn our gold or Free XP to get the tank - and then they nerf it to a point of balance.

 

We've seen this repeated at least three times now -- I think the first was those British TDs - that one with the HESH especially -- after that came the Italian Auto-loaders - and now we get the Missile tanks.   

 

 

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 True, but the flip side is it would be kind of ridiculous for them to introduce a new tank(s) that just sucked. Im just glad the damn things are getting nerfed. Maybe I will go back to playing tier 8 and 9 again. 6 and 7 is getting real dull. 


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