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Poll: E50M vs. Leopard 1 in 2020? (18 members have cast votes)

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Which one is easier to grind and fun to play in 2020?

  1. E50M (13 votes [72.22%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 72.22%

  2. Leopard 1 (5 votes [27.78%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 27.78%

Which one is better for competitive gameplay in 2020?

  1. E50M (14 votes [77.78%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 77.78%

  2. Leopard 1 (4 votes [22.22%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 22.22%

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sotrosh #1 Posted 06 February 2020 - 07:36 PM

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Hi,

 

I'd like to know what german tier 10 medium tank is better to have in 2020? 

E50M or Leopard 1?



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View Postsotrosh, on 06 February 2020 - 01:36 PM, said:

Hi,

 

I'd like to know what german tier 10 medium tank is better to have in 2020? 

E50M or Leopard 1?

 

The E50M is currently one of the strongest meds in the game given its combination of armor, decent mobility and good gun. The Leo's gun recently got buffed and it arguably has the best gun in tier X, but it's a tough one to play as it has minimal armor. Both grinds can be very tough, especially if you don't have enough free XP saved up for modules. 

 

Just looking, but it appears you're looking to grind your first line up to Tier X. What attributes are most important to you in a tank?


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sotrosh #3 Posted 06 February 2020 - 07:54 PM

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View Postj_rod, on 06 February 2020 - 07:46 PM, said:

 

The E50M is currently one of the strongest meds in the game given its combination of armor, decent mobility and good gun. The Leo's gun recently got buffed and it arguably has the best gun in tier X, but it's a tough one to play as it has minimal armor. Both grinds can be very tough, especially if you don't have enough free XP saved up for modules. 

 

Just looking, but it appears you're looking to grind your first line up to Tier X. What attributes are most important to you in a tank?


Thank you for reply. For me probably the most important is speed and armor.



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View Postsotrosh, on 06 February 2020 - 07:54 PM, said:


Thank you for reply. For me probably the most important is speed and armor.

If you value armor, the leo isn’t for you


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EricOtown #5 Posted 06 February 2020 - 08:14 PM

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As far as your second question it’s not even close. The E50M is far superior to the Leopard due to its great armor and similar speed. The Leo is a little faster and has more DPM, but it has zero armor. The E50M has great armor, great speed and mobility, great gun handling, and is a ramming machine. Think Dracula in tier X but even better. Because of the E50M’s powerful engine, fast speed coupled with being a very heavy tank with a great power to weight ratio, you can inflict serious ram damage on other meds, lights, and lightly armored TD’s.

 

Your first question is subjective. Both tanks can be fun, but the Leo is a much harder tank to play due to its complete lack of armor making it an HE magnet. The E50M is a fun and very competitive tier X medium that is a lot easier to play for the average player because of its armor. 



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View Postsotrosh, on 06 February 2020 - 01:54 PM, said:


Thank you for reply. For me probably the most important is speed and armor.

 

Avoid the Leo as it has no armor whatsoever. The E50M is a fantastic tank, but the Panther 2 is a tough one to get through and the module costs of the E50 make it an overall challenging first grind. 

 

If meds are your thing, the grind to the T62A/Obj 140 is easier culminating with two strong, mobile tanks. 

 

Also, if you'd rather go for strong tanks in general with those characteristics without having to grind all the way to tier X, you might consider the following tanks. All have good mobility and armor. You'll also notice a theme that Russian tanks tend to have good armor and mobility with meh guns. 

 

Tier 5 -  T1 Heavy

Tier 6 - T-34-85, P.43 bis, ARL 44, KV-1S

Tier 7 - T43, IS

Tier 8 -T44, IS-3


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Interesting responses in this thread... people who don't even own the Leo are advocating against it......

 

As someone who has both and has played a substantial number of games in both, I would recommend the E 50 M first. Great overall tank. Easier to learn. The grind for the E 50 M I would argue is worse, but then again I haven't played the tier 8s and 9s of each line in around 3-4 years. 

 

But.

 

The Leopard is arguably the better tank. Yes, the tank has no armor, but it excels in practically every single aspect compared to every medium in this game. Better speed, gun (arguably one of the best in the game), DPM, etc. The tank itself has a very high skill cap, but once learned it becomes a monster. At the end of the day, I would choose the Leo since it's just such a fun tank to play in. 


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E-50M speed/armor combo is hard to beat. Like everyone has said, if you value armor, the Leo is not for you. Enjoy the grind ! 

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View Postepicheeru, on 07 February 2020 - 01:57 AM, said:

Interesting responses in this thread... people who don't even own the Leo are advocating against it......

 

As someone who has both and has played a substantial number of games in both, I would recommend the E 50 M first. Great overall tank. Easier to learn. The grind for the E 50 M I would argue is worse, but then again I haven't played the tier 8s and 9s of each line in around 3-4 years. 

 

But.

 

The Leopard is arguably the better tank. Yes, the tank has no armor, but it excels in practically every single aspect compared to every medium in this game. Better speed, gun (arguably one of the best in the game), DPM, etc. The tank itself has a very high skill cap, but once learned it becomes a monster. At the end of the day, I would choose the Leo since it's just such a fun tank to play in. 

The responses are that way because this would be the OP’s first tier X. Anyone telling a new player to get a high ceiling tank such as the leo is setting them up for frustration. The E50 is a much more forgiving tank to get your feet wet in tier X and thus why it’s being recommended. 


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View PostEricOtown, on 06 February 2020 - 08:14 PM, said:

As far as your second question it’s not even close. The E50M is far superior to the Leopard due to its great armor and similar speed. The Leo is a little faster and has more DPM, but it has zero armor. The E50M has great armor, great speed and mobility, great gun handling, and is a ramming machine. Think Dracula in tier X but even better. Because of the E50M’s powerful engine, fast speed coupled with being a very heavy tank with a great power to weight ratio, you can inflict serious ram damage on other meds, lights, and lightly armored TD’s.

 

Your first question is subjective. Both tanks can be fun, but the Leo is a much harder tank to play due to its complete lack of armor making it an HE magnet. The E50M is a fun and very competitive tier X medium that is a lot easier to play for the average player because of its armor. 


do you play the Leo and the E50 on an alt? Because it would seem that you have 15 games in the E50M and zero in the Leo 1. And so I’m wondering why you would offer your opinion.



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View PostAbsolute_Sniper, on 07 February 2020 - 05:00 AM, said:

The responses are that way because this would be the OP’s first tier X. Anyone telling a new player to get a high ceiling tank such as the leo is setting them up for frustration. The E50 is a much more forgiving tank to get your feet wet in tier X and thus why it’s being recommended. 


I think his point was that there are a few people offering their opinion on the Leo that have never played it. 
 

In other news, the E50M is easier to play. 



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I personally think the E50M is the beat tank in the game. It can be a heavy or a medium. It’s a very versatile tank. 
but I do enjoy the leopard. Makes you have to be very aware of your surrounding 

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Non! Pick Sheridan because its better :D

 

tho I would pick E50 M



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I’m on my way to third mark both of these tanks, and this is what I felt

E50M:

+Amazing hull armor (although the turret can be easily penetrated by even tier 8’s)

+heavy weight for ramming

+large HP pool

+taller size to shoot down weak spots

 

Leo 

+DAT GUN (420 alpha, incomparable gun handling) 

+Better top speed and agility

+Significantly better camo

+Higher DPM despite better alpha

 

Leo is a better tank for players who can connect shots without taking it back, meanwhile

E50M is just simply easier to play just because it can forgive your mistakes.

 

Leo is way more competitive in hands of the right player, yet I find myself enjoying and laughing more in the e50m

 



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View Postbenmomice, on 28 March 2020 - 03:22 AM, said:

I’m on my way to third mark both of these tanks, and this is what I felt

E50M:

+Amazing hull armor (although the turret can be easily penetrated by even tier 8’s)

+heavy weight for ramming

+large HP pool

+taller size to shoot down weak spots

 

Leo 

+DAT GUN (420 alpha, incomparable gun handling) 

+Better top speed and agility

+Significantly better camo

+Higher DPM despite better alpha

 

Leo is a better tank for players who can connect shots without taking it back, meanwhile

E50M is just simply easier to play just because it can forgive your mistakes.

 

Leo is way more competitive in hands of the right player, yet I find myself enjoying and laughing more in the e50m

 

You're comparing the PC versions when this is blitz, similar concepts but a few differences such as the tier 10s won't face tier 8 and alpha is different. E50m is better for a newer player but leo seems to have a higher skill cap.



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View Postj_rod, on 06 February 2020 - 12:18 PM, said:

 

Avoid the Leo as it has no armor whatsoever. The E50M is a fantastic tank, but the Panther 2 is a tough one to get through and the module costs of the E50 make it an overall challenging first grind. 

 

If meds are your thing, the grind to the T62A/Obj 140 is easier culminating with two strong, mobile tanks. 

 

Also, if you'd rather go for strong tanks in general with those characteristics without having to grind all the way to tier X, you might consider the following tanks. All have good mobility and armor. You'll also notice a theme that Russian tanks tend to have good armor and mobility with meh guns. 

 

Tier 5 -  T1 Heavy

Tier 6 - T-34-85, P.43 bis, ARL 44, KV-1S

Tier 7 - T43, IS

Tier 8 -T44, IS-3

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The high tier missile tanks have diminished the fun factor considerably for me. They are a direct competitors for early spotting positions.

 

edit: for the leopard 1


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Firstly no one is going to run a Leo 1 or E 50M in a tournament these days. 
 
More than most meds the  50M got a massive indirect  nerf in 6.9, as the heavy tanks just got significantly HO boosted. 
  The 50M is one of the last meds you want fighting an IS-4 or Maus, mainly as it can’t effectively run away well.  
Neither stand up well to focus fire either.  
 

Both are still fantastic Pubby tanks (in good hands), but the only German used in comps these days is the Maus, with a few teams running JPE to use against the Maus and IS-4 spam. 
 

 

 

  



 
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