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stmaarten1778 #1 Posted 20 February 2020 - 01:50 AM

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I just can’t seem to do well in the T28, The armor can’t do anything and I have been being spammed with ISUs in MM. I always seem to get front penned by basically anything because the armor is trash. I can’t respond to anything on the battlefield because I’m so slow. I am just trying to get to the T95 and out of this garbage can with treads... Can’t WG make the T28 like it’s PC counterpart and remove the dumb angled armor part on the front or something. That is what I would like to see with this thing. It needs to be fixed in one way or another... I have been saving free xp to get rid of it... Sorry for the long rant but I am just so dam angry at this thing because it is terrible and the teams are terrible. I always seem to be left behind to be thrown to the red lights/meds... Does anyone have any advice to soften the blow that is the T28?

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BorisBaddenov #2 Posted 20 February 2020 - 04:17 AM

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View Poststmaarten1778, on 19 February 2020 - 06:50 PM, said:

 Does anyone have any advice to soften the blow that is the T28?

 

 

Use your free EXP.

 

 

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It’s situational for sure. If you make the wrong call and get behind your in trouble. When engaged with flank protection it can work well though. :playing:

RonaldusMaximus_ #4 Posted 20 February 2020 - 01:06 PM

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T28 is a really great TD with a terrifying gun. It will be painful until it is fully upgraded. But you should absolutely NOT free XP through it if you plan on playing the T95 because you will have no idea how to play the T95 and you will rage quit.

 


Rou_Garou #5 Posted 20 February 2020 - 01:21 PM

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I don't have enough grinds going on now so I bought a couple tanks last nite and this was one on the list. 

LOLOL the stock speed is 2 kpm.  How miserable is that?  I have free exp for modules but always grind the crew from 75%.

But I don't think this going to happen any time soon.  A little help on this puppy WG would be awesome


 

 

                                                                        


Kiwi_Kebab #6 Posted 20 February 2020 - 03:21 PM

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View PostRonaldusMaximus_, on 20 February 2020 - 07:06 AM, said:

T28 is a really great TD with a terrifying gun. It will be painful until it is fully upgraded. But you should absolutely NOT free XP through it if you plan on playing the T95 because you will have no idea how to play the T95 and you will rage quit.

It's a bad tank, statistically. Its arguably the worst tank in all of tier 8, based on Ribble's 6.7 data (the worst winrate, the 2nd lowest average damage). 

 

I didn't do very well in it personally, and the stock grind was horrendous. I'll agree that it can train you for the T95 though, which I believe is a better tank generally. Both have trouble doing damage, but the T95 can be more influential with its 155 mm gun and generally better armor profile.



Kiwi_Kebab #7 Posted 20 February 2020 - 03:25 PM

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It's a zero sum equation. If they can pen you, they will. If they can't, awesome, you'll own in the heavy role. TDs will melt your front like butter, and heavies can get through reliably with prammo. Mediums can get around you easily if they are allowed within close range. Avoid going down hills, even small ones, when under fire. It exposes your long, weak roof. 

 

It needs a buff. It's armor is too exploitable for such a reduction in speed. Same for the Tortoise.



_Vanitas #8 Posted 20 February 2020 - 03:25 PM

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View PostRou_Garou, on 20 February 2020 - 08:21 AM, said:

I don't have enough grinds going on now so I bought a couple tanks last nite and this was one on the list. 

LOLOL the stock speed is 2 kpm.  How miserable is that?  I have free exp for modules but always grind the crew from 75%.

But I don't think this going to happen any time soon.  A little help on this puppy WG would be awesome

 

2 km/h is probably the average speed, the top speed is like 15 or 20


Edited by Explixiit_, 20 February 2020 - 03:26 PM.

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GentleNova #9 Posted 20 February 2020 - 04:30 PM

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View PostKiwi_Kebab, on 20 February 2020 - 07:21 AM, said:

It's a bad tank, statistically. Its arguably the worst tank in all of tier 8, based on Ribble's 6.7 data (the worst winrate, the 2nd lowest average damage). 

 

I didn't do very well in it personally, and the stock grind was horrendous. I'll agree that it can train you for the T95 though, which I believe is a better tank generally. Both have trouble doing damage, but the T95 can be more influential with its 155 mm gun and generally better armor profile.

 

View PostRonaldusMaximus_, on 20 February 2020 - 05:06 AM, said:

T28 is a really great TD with a terrifying gun. It will be painful until it is fully upgraded. But you should absolutely NOT free XP through it if you plan on playing the T95 because you will have no idea how to play the T95 and you will rage quit.


This is pretty much it. It trains you for the T95. Meadsy’s vid on it, while a couple years back, is still relevant on how to play the tank.

 

 

Always keep hard cover nearby to help avoid getting COD’d by the enemy. And if they do get behind you, learn how to "scrape” them off using the corner of a building or rock. The things you learn with this tank can be applied to any non-turreted TD. It’s just a brutal learning process. 
 

You’re also optimal in situations where the enemy has to go through a narrow channel to approach you (ie eastern heavy route on Fort Despair), forcing them to face you head on and preventing them from getting on your sides and rear (assuming you have some teammates behind you). 

I also think that every player in the game should be forced to grind this tank. Why? Because it teaches you to understand the potentials and pitfalls of it, thus helping you to realize how you can help other players playing this tank on the battlefield. For example, if you see a T28 teammate being COD’d by an almost full health light or medium tank, don’t waste your time just shooting the enemy tank, trying to kill it, if you’re the only one helping the T28 player. Instead try to track the enemy tank’s tracks or block it from moving, thus allowing the T28 to traverse and nuke it with its gun. It’ll make much faster work of it than just you alone. This can now be applied to helping any slow traversing, big alpha gun on your team. But only if you experience this frustration yourself will you empathize with others and understand how to help them out in turn. 

 

All that said, I do feel sorry for you because it was hard enough to play this tank years back but with the teams now, it must be brutal. But you can still learn valuable solo skills from it (as mentioned above) that you can apply to all your non-turreted TDs. 


Edited by GentleNova, 20 February 2020 - 04:41 PM.

 

stmaarten1778 #10 Posted 20 February 2020 - 10:44 PM

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Update: I was just on a rant because I was having terrible teams yesterday and I was a lot of times the last tank alive. I tolerate this tank, I don’t hate it but I think that it could use a buff to the frontal armor. I understand the speed because it’s the T95’s brother that everyone sees as a mistake but has a small amount of potential. I like the top gun and after watching the video I played a match on naval frontier and I did super well... The tank is fine, but I think the T95 will me a much larger improvement compared to the T28. 
 

EDIT: I have figured out how to mainly play the tank, I just get left behind a lot (either like everyone dies or I get really left behind) and die and that’s what’s making me mad. The T28 is good practice for the T95 just it’s a very team dependent vehicle... If I can survive for that long I am doing something right in my opinion.


Edited by stmaarten1778, 22 February 2020 - 03:50 PM.

I love my Tiger P :playing:

 

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Dolly_Sod #11 Posted 24 February 2020 - 05:35 AM

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You should play the St Emil if you want true frustration. 

Dolly_Sod #12 Posted 23 June 2020 - 09:08 PM

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View PostDoilky, on 24 February 2020 - 12:35 AM, said:

You should play the St Emil if you want true frustration. 

Nevermind, I just started playing the T28, and the Emil is leaps and bounds better.  At least it has gun depression. 



Kiwi_Kebab #13 Posted 23 June 2020 - 11:37 PM

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View PostDoilky, on 23 June 2020 - 03:08 PM, said:

Nevermind, I just started playing the T28, and the Emil is leaps and bounds better.  At least it has gun depression. 

Did you try the T28 with the enhanced speed boost? You can use it to reverse away from mediums. 



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Have a platoon mate push you around. If your the last one alive, drive to the corner of the map and face the enemy like a boss. 

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View PostRou_Garou, on 20 February 2020 - 05:21 AM, said:

I don't have enough grinds going on now so I bought a couple tanks last nite and this was one on the list. 

LOLOL the stock speed is 2 kpm.  How miserable is that?  I have free exp for modules but always grind the crew from 75%.

But I don't think this going to happen any time soon.  A little help on this puppy WG would be awesome

   The stock speed is not 2km/h the proto says it's 1 but that's not true. Just a guess based on engine power and weight


I have converted to T-15ism

 


Boomer625 #16 Posted 28 July 2020 - 06:57 PM

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t28 prot stock speed around 9 kph

top engine around 16-18 kph

put on improved fuel provisions for guaranteed 20 kph



Hye_yeon_Cho #17 Posted 16 August 2020 - 08:12 PM

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T95 on a diet

FreeRangePewPewAmerica #18 Posted 17 October 2020 - 12:16 PM

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T28 was rough when I played it on desktop, I can't imagine it'd be much different in Blitz. Armor on the T95 is much better, but you still have the lack of speed and lower alpha, plus the pace of battle always felt faster to me in the T28 where I was always late to a choke point whereas with the T95 it always seemed like the battle was still going on and I could turn it when I got there.

 

Desktop stats (I was a 52-53% WR player back in my desktop days, which goes back several years...just getting into Blitz these days):
T28 - ~1300 dpg, 1.59 K/D rate, 44%WR

T95 - ~2200 dpg, 1.88 K/D rate, 50%WR

 

I remember hating the T28.

 

Only reason I bring this up is Blitz reminds me of desktop WOT circa 2013, minus 8 tanks per side, 8 minutes, the scourge that is arty, and some of the ill conceived maps that were in the desktop game around that time.


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View PostDoilky, on 24 February 2020 - 12:35 AM, said:

You should play the St Emil if you want true frustration. 


I quite enjoy the ol’ Stubborn Emil, actually. It’s a bit slow and gets penned by everything, but the gun’s alpha, depression, and handling are really nice. Also, the frontal armor is at least thick enough to repel HE shells. The ginormous gun/barrel actually leads to a few incredibly troll bounces. Case in point: KV-2’s HE shell hits the very tip of my barrel, slightly damaging the module and dealing 26 dmg.


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