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Dark_Magician_Girl #1 Posted 26 March 2020 - 12:07 AM

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Just when the game started feeling 2015-ish again, we make the game even more a heavy meta.  As if heavy tanks weren't already dominating for the past 2-3 years.  Terrible update overall because I don't care how much they show off how the boosters have a new graphic design.


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boris55555 #2 Posted 26 March 2020 - 12:21 AM

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View PostDark_Magician_Girl, on 25 March 2020 - 07:07 PM, said:

Just when the game started feeling 2015-ish again, we make the game even more a heavy meta.  As if heavy tanks weren't already dominating for the past 2-3 years.  Terrible update overall because I don't care how much they show off how the boosters have a new graphic design.


uh, these changes are based in antiquity. Heavies have been struggling since update -2.2. Before the game was released. Nothing to see here


:amazed:6.7/6.8/6.9/6.10/7.0 now we have LAME tanks w broken mechanic “Balancing” Missile tanks is a joke.
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View Postboris55555, on 25 March 2020 - 07:21 PM, said:


uh, these changes are based in antiquity. Heavies have been struggling since update -2.2. Before the game was released. Nothing to see here


I UNDERSTAND. I just like playing light and med tanks. 

 

 

 

 
 

 


 


twirlingtowardsfreedom #4 Posted 26 March 2020 - 03:32 AM

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View PostDark_Magician_Girl, on 26 March 2020 - 12:07 AM, said:

Just when the game started feeling 2015-ish again, we make the game even more a heavy meta.  As if heavy tanks weren't already dominating for the past 2-3 years.  Terrible update overall because I don't care how much they show off how the boosters have a new graphic design.

 

Any early predictions on what we'll see you and the other top clans rolling out lineup wise in spring tourneys?



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View PostDark_Magician_Girl, on 25 March 2020 - 06:07 PM, said:

Just when the game started feeling 2015-ish again, we make the game even more a heavy meta.  As if heavy tanks weren't already dominating for the past 2-3 years.  Terrible update overall because I don't care how much they show off how the boosters have a new graphic design.


The medium meta was always my favorite personally. I sure miss the OP Obj. 140 days. 


 

 

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Guarantee you’ll see a lot of heavy action in the Cup Tourneys.....

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View Poste___18989, on 26 March 2020 - 05:38 AM, said:


The medium meta was always my favorite personally. I sure miss the OP Obj. 140 days. 


 Preach. WG simply caters to newbs as a revenue stream. Now heavies have even more HP to bleed out in town. 



 


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Agree with DMG, Meat_Locker and all of you.

The most stupid buff ever.



Nantano23 #9 Posted 26 March 2020 - 04:09 AM

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In some of my battles in the E-100 with this update, I would get targeted by 4 tanks at once and ignore more deadly tanks, cause it had a hp buff.

I just die more and quicker with this update, than I did than last update, and im surprised I can do decent to doing quite well in my first tier 10 heavy



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View Posttwirlingtowardsfreedom, on 25 March 2020 - 10:32 PM, said:

 

Any early predictions on what we'll see you and the other top clans rolling out lineup wise in spring tourneys?

At least 6 of the 7 tanks on both sides will be Mauses and IS-4s.

 

No joke. If you don't have enough Mauses and IS-4's, you literally cannot stop a superheavy lineup. We played a round tonight in the finals of an offseason tournament where we had 4 Mauses and 3 IS-4's against an enemy setup of double Foch, an FV215b, IS-4, Maus, 113, and T-62a. Now just yesterday, such a lineup would be considered very heavy. Not anymore. Today, just because of their lineup, they started nearly 4,500 HP down. No matter how good you are, or how nice your strat is, ~4,500 HP disadvantage can be nearly insurmountable. That's like playing 2 tanks down in terms of HP. Needlessly to say, they lost, and there was still over 6000 HP and 3 tanks on the board still left for them to chew through.

(too bad for us they learned fast and copied our lineup during the next 2 rounds)

 

And during the quick tournament tonight, I don't think we lost a single round due to having lost 7 tanks.  No, the only rounds we lost were because we got capped out. In fact, after teams slowly started wising up, games rarely ended with the death of all 7 tanks, they ended due to caps because there's literally not enough time to chew through ~20k HP worth of IS-4s and Mauses. 

 

It's a huge contrast. Just yesterday during the tournament, my team was running setups like double E-50M, double T-62A, Sheridan, and double FV 215b. Those days are gone. Mauses and IS-4s simply have far too much armor and HP to deal with now.

 

Although personally, I'm a bit surprised that DMG doesn't like this meta shift. He seems to have been far better at playing the old heavy meta then the faster medium meta.

 


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Seems that the tourney meta is the real casualty here; at least pub games try to balance tank classes.

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Wargaming just cannot balance this game the first time.  

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View PostPosit1ve_, on 26 March 2020 - 06:48 AM, said:

At least 6 of the 7 tanks on both sides will be Mauses and IS-4s.

 

 

That's just absolute crap, bleh. At least the 140 days had some fast movement. 4500 hp is a mammoth amount. Thanks for the perspective.



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I'm done with tier 9 and 10 for the time being. I had my fun in my T92E1, now I'll play a bunch of tier 7 and 8.

 

This game is fantastic overall but I'm increasingly convinced that WG is run by a bunch of morons who don't know how to make the most of the great thing they have.

 

I'm also curious how long until this post gets ghost edited or deleted.



superfly29erguy_1 #15 Posted 26 March 2020 - 02:42 PM

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Well, I guess another reason to just stay out of 9-10 regular battles for a little while longer I suppose. Just keep plugging away at ratings.

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IS-4’s hp tops our just over 2800 I think. This is ridiculous. How are mediums, and other tanks, supposed to count it.
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View Postdport02, on 26 March 2020 - 10:46 AM, said:

IS-4’s hp tops our just over 2800 I think. This is ridiculous. How are mediums, and other tanks, supposed to count it.



IS-4 has 2650 now without Improved Assembly. 
 

  Was leading the balance charts for ages, and got a significantly big buff. 
The odd/wrong thing about this buff is the Maus and IS-4 have been at the top of the balance game in X for ages. Yet they got more significant buffs than most other heavies. 
 

Tournaments where awash in a sea of Maus and IS-4 last night.  

 



 
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View Post__Crusader6__, on 26 March 2020 - 08:55 AM, said:



IS-4 has 2650 now without Improved Assembly. 
 

  Was leading the balance charts for ages, and got a significantly big buff. 
The odd/wrong thing about this buff is the Maus and IS-4 have been at the top of the balance game in X for ages. Yet they got more significant buffs than most other heavies. 
 

Tournaments where awash in a sea of Maus and IS-4 last night.  

 

 

This is just further proof that WG has absolutely no clue how the changes they make impact the game.   There is someone at WG, locked away in a tower - their job is to decide what changes to make to the game.  But not only do they not play the game at all - they don't even begin to understand the impact on game play their changes will make.

 

I really struggle at how far out of touch that Wizard in the Tower really is.

 

 

 

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Tourneys aside, I didn't see much difference in pub matches last night. Don't get me wrong, I think the buff was overkill, but my hope is that they do the same thing to the rest of the tanks next and spread things out. In other words, I hope they're using these buffs as a way to raise the bar for all the rest of the tanks. 

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