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King__David #1 Posted 27 March 2020 - 03:15 AM

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I'm referring to the Leo line that turns into a medium line. I just need the e50M and Ferdinand to conclude my entire collection of german tanks (tanks with armor or good camo) Not including those tanks that leaves me with 5 tanks left to buy and research to have the entire german tech tree in my garage. The thing is I really like armor or really good camo. I tend to struggle with tanks that have no armor but are not meant to be played like a light tank. I'm sure I'm missing a lot any advice or feedback would be nice.

dport02 #2 Posted 27 March 2020 - 05:13 AM

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The leopard has arguably best gun in tier 10, with the best accuracy tied with the T62A. It’s also one of the fastest tanks in tier X. Try to keep moving in it, and stay hull down, because you can get some troll shots.
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BlackBeltBlitzer #3 Posted 27 March 2020 - 11:35 AM

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With the lower tier tanks, keep moving! If you’re not spotted, you can snipe. But if you are, hit the gas pedal.

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Rou_Garou #4 Posted 27 March 2020 - 11:38 AM

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Don't poke out of cover till fully reloaded

Shoot take cover and reset camo relocate

Don't get hit and live to shoot more stuff


Don't rush inBe patientDon't brawl unnecessarilyKnow your tanks and enemy tanks;  Know your tanks' role;  

Knowing maps allows situation awareness; Mini-map is a mighty map;  Drive to cover;

Fight like you have no armor; Relocate and reset camo oftenBe the lover of cover;  

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_Crusader6_ #5 Posted 27 March 2020 - 12:47 PM

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The Leo line from the SP1C is a way to learn to abuse mobility, camo, and how to exploit distracted tanks. 

When you get to the PTA you obviously lose light tank camo, so you need to be more cautious when moving around in it and the Leo 1
 The mantlet and front hull can troll bounces if angled and only exposing a sliver - but large cal guns will switch to HE and splash you for some decent damage. 
 

Reset camo, don’t poke spotted until clean up when you zoom around doing clean up.  The PTA is a fantastic second line tank as low tier - just plink distracted tanks - only enter a brawl when your team really needs it.  
  
One of the biggest strengths is the mobility  - constant rotational play and singing distracted reds - and zooming in to erase isolated tanks with the mobility.  

 

 



 
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Major_Sweatpants #6 Posted 27 March 2020 - 01:49 PM

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1. If you wanna learn low-armor mediums, play the Crusader-Cromwell-Comet. but yeah, the main points are listed above. low armor, though still bounceable, small, low pen guns offset by good mobility. don't frontline, make sure to flank as much as possible. use the speed to relocate, always go the medium route. if you try to frontally engage a heavy, your gonna have to A) load APCR or B) run for your sweet life. derp guns are not fun, they'll derp you at whatever chance they can. it's possible to sidescrape, but rapid peek-a-boom is a better strategy. the front-mounted turrets on the Comet and Cromwell are good for that. if you get into an open area, use your DPM to murder pretty much anything. (ill call myself an expert on the comet as I've grinded it for 2 T8 tanks, and its one of my highest WR tonks.)



Alopex__ #7 Posted 27 March 2020 - 02:14 PM

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View PostMajor_Sweatpants, on 27 March 2020 - 01:49 PM, said:

1. If you wanna learn low-armor mediums, play the Crusader-Cromwell-Comet. but yeah, the main points are listed above. low armor, though still bounceable, small, low pen guns offset by good mobility. don't frontline, make sure to flank as much as possible. use the speed to relocate, always go the medium route. if you try to frontally engage a heavy, your gonna have to A) load APCR or B) run for your sweet life. derp guns are not fun, they'll derp you at whatever chance they can. it's possible to sidescrape, but rapid peek-a-boom is a better strategy. the front-mounted turrets on the Comet and Cromwell are good for that. if you get into an open area, use your DPM to murder pretty much anything. (ill call myself an expert on the comet as I've grinded it for 2 T8 tanks, and its one of my highest WR tonks.)

I'd switch out comet for t23 for this comparison, it has more speed more fire on the move and way less armor and better pen. To me it feels closer to a leopard. Comet tier for tier has decent armor for a tier 7 med. 



j_rod #8 Posted 27 March 2020 - 03:15 PM

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View PostStarFox__McCloud, on 27 March 2020 - 08:14 AM, said:

I'd switch out comet for t23 for this comparison, it has more speed more fire on the move and way less armor and better pen. To me it feels closer to a leopard. Comet tier for tier has decent armor for a tier 7 med. 

 

All those tanks mentioned have great gun depression. The RU has 10deg....over the side. The PTA has 6deg total. They are also low-alpha DPM machines, which makes for a different play style than the German light line. 

 

IMHO, the RU and the PTA are two of the hardest tanks to play because they have no armor and can't fight ridges with their lack of gun depression. They're both second line tanks that require a LOT of patience. Anyone that likes to get out and brawl is going to struggle in those tanks. 

 

OP - I've played with you a number of times and you're a skilled player, but you're used to playing aggressively in heavies which make up almost 74% of your battles. You're just going to have to change your mindset if you want to play (and enjoy) the tanks with no armor. 


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Ronin_23 #9 Posted 27 March 2020 - 05:34 PM

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View Postj_rod, on 27 March 2020 - 03:15 PM, said:

 

All those tanks mentioned have great gun depression. The RU has 10deg....over the side. The PTA has 6deg total. They are also low-alpha DPM machines, which makes for a different play style than the German light line. 

 

IMHO, the RU and the PTA are two of the hardest tanks to play because they have no armor and can't fight ridges with their lack of gun depression. They're both second line tanks that require a LOT of patience. Anyone that likes to get out and brawl is going to struggle in those tanks. 

 

OP - I've played with you a number of times and you're a skilled player, but you're used to playing aggressively in heavies which make up almost 74% of your battles. You're just going to have to change your mindset if you want to play (and enjoy) the tanks with no armor. 

 

I see your point about the Ru and PTA requiring patience but in my experience, I loved the Ru especially because I DIDN'T need to be patient. It's amazing for zooming around and dodging shells and fat slow heavies. I was able to be more aggressive in that tank than most. PTA was a different story due to the glut of big guns at tier X but still immensely fun and used some of the Ru's lessons. Probably smarter to play cautiously but who's that fun for?



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View PostRonin_23, on 27 March 2020 - 12:34 PM, said:

 

I see your point about the Ru and PTA requiring patience but in my experience, I loved the Ru especially because I DIDN'T need to be patient. It's amazing for zooming around and dodging shells and fat slow heavies. I was able to be more aggressive in that tank than most. PTA was a different story due to the glut of big guns at tier X but still immensely fun and used some of the Ru's lessons. Probably smarter to play cautiously but who's that fun for?


I am fairly aggressive in both of those - at first, as I’ll rush to spot, but then reset camo and use the mobility and the gun as required.  
   The biggest flaw many Ru-> Leo1 players have is not using the mobility properly. Either by camping in them, or trying to win gun fights stationary in them.   
 


   
 



 
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Popcann #11 Posted 27 March 2020 - 09:28 PM

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Just lap the map along the outside boundary at warp speed, when a shot becomes available, stop and shoot. Lol

BlackBeltBlitzer #12 Posted 27 March 2020 - 09:33 PM

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View PostPopcann, on 27 March 2020 - 09:28 PM, said:

Just lap the map along the outside boundary at warp speed, when a shot becomes available, stop and shoot. Lol


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Schantzy #13 Posted 27 March 2020 - 09:33 PM

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Nice thread all, lots of good  info.... +1

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  1. Drive very stealthily.
  2. pop up unexpectedly yelling « BOOOO »
  3. enemy should be scared to death and die as a result of scare.
  4. for me it usually works and we win.
  5. if it didn’t work double check if you have said « boob » instead. It’s not the same word.

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View PostJesseRSmith11, on 27 March 2020 - 11:35 AM, said:

With the lower tier tanks, keep moving! If you’re not spotted, you can snipe. But if you are, hit the gas pedal.

I've found turning on the auto aim as you are speeding around can get you some shots in that you normally wouldn't take because of steering. Yes you will bounce some because it's tough to aim backwards and drive forward, but getting some shots in as you speed around is better than none

 



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Awesome stuff guys thanks. 

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