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Poll: Which comes first FV4005 or Pantera P44 (45 members have cast votes)

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Which ace comes first

  1. Fv4005 (15 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  2. Pantera P44 (30 votes [66.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 66.67%

Do you care about C6’s Ace OCD

  1. Yes (20 votes [44.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.44%

  2. No (25 votes [55.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 55.56%

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_Crusader6_ #1 Posted 05 April 2020 - 07:57 PM

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So I aced the Std B today.  Only requires 1545 exp (May explain why WG wants to nerf the DPM).  
 

This leaves me with 2 missing aces. 
Tier X: FV 4005 with 5 1st class in 196 games 

Tier 8: Pantera P44 with 6 1st Class in 381 games. 
 

So after the Smasher ace rant - I decided to make a poll and see which one the forum thinks will come first.  
 

 



 
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Roberto577_One #2 Posted 05 April 2020 - 08:28 PM

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Personally Pantera, because seeing that you have almost 400 battles in a tank with no Ace saddens me. I don't mean that as an insult, just fyi.

 

Also you may want to fix your signature, it still says you haven't Aced the Standard. Good luck!

 

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Tackywheat1 #3 Posted 05 April 2020 - 09:24 PM

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4005. Grinding AMX 13 90 and don't want to see more panteras....

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Gavidoc01 #4 Posted 06 April 2020 - 02:55 AM

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Panterra Ace was low a few weeks ago. 1300. 

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_ImUrHuckleberry #5 Posted 06 April 2020 - 04:56 AM

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I don't care about OP's OCD, but in the good ole' days these kind of OPs would be flagged and get sent to the off-topic gulag. Maybe we can get a MOD to move this...oh, wait. :coin:

Blartch #6 Posted 06 April 2020 - 12:25 PM

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The P.44 Anthrax took a much, much bigger game than the 4005 for me.  However, considering how Overkill the P.44 Motörhead was at the time, getting a much, much, much bigger game wasn't exceptionally difficult, even with me being a Dirty Rotten Imbecile.

_Crusader6_ #7 Posted 06 April 2020 - 03:29 PM

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View Post_ImUrHuckleberry, on 05 April 2020 - 11:56 PM, said:

I don't care about OP's OCD, but in the good ole' days these kind of OPs would be flagged and get sent to the off-topic gulag. Maybe we can get a MOD to move this...oh, wait. :coin:

Does it relate to Blitz? 
   That’s the real question about OT or Blitz Discussion...

But I appreciate your thought.

 

View PostBlartch, on 06 April 2020 - 07:25 AM, said:

The P.44 Anthrax took a much, much bigger game than the 4005 for me.  However, considering how Overkill the P.44 Motörhead was at the time, getting a much, much, much bigger game wasn't exceptionally difficult, even with me being a Dirty Rotten Imbecile.


I tooned with TheDirtDart and he aced the Pantera nicely a few months ago. I’m definitely to aggressive in mine for the lack of armor and mobility, mainly as I find myself often too aggressive in any non aced tank - trying to get the ace, as opposed to playing more smartly for wins and letting the ace come of it does.  
 


 



 
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Texas_Tyrant #8 Posted 06 April 2020 - 04:29 PM

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Just free xp'd my Pantera autoreloader. Now its playable, Played first couple battles today in it, its not gonna be fun without the engine upgrades thats all I have to say. seems like it'll be hard to ace right now. With the Heavy HP buffs coming soon though I bet it will be easier to Ace momentarily with the larger hp pool from the reds heavies.

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_Crusader6_ #9 Posted 06 April 2020 - 06:25 PM

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View PostTexas_Tyrant, on 06 April 2020 - 11:29 AM, said:

Just free xp'd my Pantera autoreloader. Now its playable, Played first couple battles today in it, its not gonna be fun without the engine upgrades thats all I have to say. seems like it'll be hard to ace right now. With the Heavy HP buffs coming soon though I bet it will be easier to Ace momentarily with the larger hp pool from the reds heavies.

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I wouldn’t bank on any HP buffs - WG is going to look at how the tier X Heavy HP buffs affect the game. 
  I think they are going to tinker with X for a bit before any 9’s then 8 etc get buffs. 
 


 



 
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_ImUrHuckleberry #10 Posted 07 April 2020 - 12:21 AM

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View Post__Crusader6__, on 06 April 2020 - 07:29 AM, said:

Does it relate to Blitz? 
   That’s the real question about OT or Blitz Discussion...

 

A lot of things relate to Blitz, if even by the smallest of margins. That doesn't mean it belongs on the general discussion. I like you C6, but this doesn't qualify. This is about your OCD impulses, and your ego/self-pride (nothing wrong with that btw). Absolutely nothing about it is educational, relatable (not really), or all things Blitz. This is also your 2nd, or 3rd (or more) post on this subject, and you sensed that.

 

Hence you made a poll, as if popularity replaces proper placement (although at this point no one cares since the admins and old-guard forumers went awol). Shoot, i had a post about how the virus is helping us play more, and even Ribble commented about WG giving us free PT, only to be moved to the off-topic section shortly afterwards. 

 

And even then i would've stayed quiet, but your 2nd question of your poll compelled me to comment. C'est La Vie.

 

Huck,



_Crusader6_ #11 Posted 07 April 2020 - 01:58 AM

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Well the next ace turned out to be the FV 4005.  In rated battle - which feels kind of dirty, but I also trashed my rating playing that as apparently a bunch of 3k dmg 3 kill games losses around 37pts each loss. 
   1472 base, 5,895 dmg, 3 kills.  
 

So now I can concentrate on ruining my WR in the Pantera - which is such a non C6 tank these days.  
 

 



 
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RatPATROL_2014 #12 Posted 07 April 2020 - 12:42 PM

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View PostRatPATROL_2014, on 07 April 2020 - 12:42 PM, said:

I bet Miami bets New England this year - if football is played 


I can’t see that, they won’t be able to do summer camps etc.....it would push the season into the following year and screw things up royally...



j_rod #14 Posted 07 April 2020 - 01:19 PM

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View PostSchantzy, on 07 April 2020 - 07:11 AM, said:


I can’t see that, they won’t be able to do summer camps etc.....it would push the season into the following year and screw things up royally...


Which means Fall collegiate sports are in jeopardy as well.

 

Let’s face it, things are going to be very different for a while.


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_Crusader6_ #15 Posted 10 April 2020 - 03:09 AM

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When I started this thread I was sitting in the Pantera P44 with 6 1st Class in 381 games. 

 

Now 13 1st Class in 493 games -- but at least having got rid of the Std B and the Progs, I am doing a lot better in the Pantera.

   Been running it around 70% in the last 75 games - and been over 2k avg dmg in the last 40 games.

 

 



 
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_Crusader6_ #16 Posted 14 April 2020 - 12:48 PM

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Well it took me a while, but I got the Pantera ace. 
1372 base exp, 4295 dmg, 6 kills.  

Took 569 games, second number highest games in tier 8 that it ever took me to ace (Löwe set that record) 
  203 games in April in the Pantera over 70% WR and over 2k dmg solo.  Sadly that only brought me up to a 61.34% WR and 1703 avg dmg.  Biggest take aways from the Pantera run, playing the other Italian autoreloaders really hurt my Pantera play as they have different styles.  The Prog in 8 is much closer to the tech tree 9-10 in style than the Pantera is - and the Pantera reload rewards different play, as well the armor profile and size are much more like the 9/10 on the Prog 8 than the Pantera.  



 



 
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View Post__Crusader6__, on 14 April 2020 - 06:48 AM, said:

Well it took me a while, but I got the Pantera ace. 
1372 base exp, 4295 dmg, 6 kills.  

Took 569 games, second number highest games in tier 8 that it ever took me to ace (Löwe set that record) 
  203 games in April in the Pantera over 70% WR and over 2k dmg solo.  Sadly that only brought me up to a 61.34% WR and 1703 avg dmg.  Biggest take aways from the Pantera run, playing the other Italian autoreloaders really hurt my Pantera play as they have different styles.  The Prog in 8 is much closer to the tech tree 9-10 in style than the Pantera is - and the Pantera reload rewards different play, as well the armor profile and size are much more like the 9/10 on the Prog 8 than the Pantera.  



 

Really great points. To me the tier 8 Prog feels very similar to the Standard b. The Pantera is like the black sheep of the autoloaders line. It's more similar  to the tier 6-7 meds in the line, but with an autoloader. The playstyle of the Pantera is much different from the Standard b or tier 10 Prog. 



_Crusader6_ #18 Posted 14 April 2020 - 02:41 PM

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View PostHoly_Outlaw, on 14 April 2020 - 09:20 AM, said:

Really great points. To me the tier 8 Prog feels very similar to the Standard b. The Pantera is like the black sheep of the autoloaders line. It's more similar  to the tier 6-7 meds in the line, but with an autoloader. The playstyle of the Pantera is much different from the Standard b or tier 10 Prog. 


Yeah, my first 100 games in the Pantera gave me a 69% WR and 2,100 avg dmg -- when I started to play the Standard B and Prog 65, I really started to struggle in the Pantera and had dropped to a 57% WR by 245 games - mainly as I wasn't paying attention to how different they where - and taking a lot of needless damage (dmg that wouldn't have been taken in the others). 



 
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View Post__Crusader6__, on 14 April 2020 - 08:41 AM, said:


Yeah, my first 100 games in the Pantera gave me a 69% WR and 2,100 avg dmg -- when I started to play the Standard B and Prog 65, I really started to struggle in the Pantera and had dropped to a 57% WR by 245 games - mainly as I wasn't paying attention to how different they where - and taking a lot of needless damage (dmg that wouldn't have been taken in the others). 


Yea, the same happened to me but in reverse. I did pretty good in the Pantera, but when I went to the Standard b I was like " what?" It felt a bit sluggish to me at first, I think I was training the crew too. I gave in and golded the crew, and I came around with it. It's one of my faves now. But your description of the playstyles of both tanks is spot on. I think most players have a difficult time being this accurate with their perceptions or analyzations of their tanks. This is definitely one of your great strong points in game. Legit Pantera numbers too lol! :P



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View Post__Crusader6__, on 14 April 2020 - 07:41 AM, said:


Yeah, my first 100 games in the Pantera gave me a 69% WR and 2,100 avg dmg -- when I started to play the Standard B and Prog 65, I really started to struggle in the Pantera and had dropped to a 57% WR by 245 games - mainly as I wasn't paying attention to how different they where - and taking a lot of needless damage (dmg that wouldn't have been taken in the others). 


This requires some explanation to me as when I look at tank compare the armour stats seem to me that the tier 9 and 10 are both more fragile relative to their tier vs the Pantera. The other part I am confused by is has can auto-reloaders be that much different in style? the mechanic is the same for each.


                                      

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