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[LazerDad]

Hi, I just saw this on sale for 10k gold.  I seem to remember people saying it’s a little overcooked.  Is this correct, or is it just more IS spam @tier 8?
Discuss...

[Major_Sweatpants]

Schantzy, on 12 May 2020 - 07:35 AM, said:

Hi, I just saw this on sale for 10k gold.  I seem to remember people saying it’s a little overcooked.  Is this correct, or is it just more IS spam @tier 8?
Discuss...

it all started with a kiss...

imagine the T-10 mixed with the Tiger II. thats the Obj. 252U. now i very much want it, its *slightly* broken, but it's lower plate is the size of the observable universe.

[Texas_Tyrant]

IS spam. I currently do not like IS tanks your choice though on whether you want to keep WG in business. I like playing the game so go for it.

Texas_Tyrant

[_Crusader6_]

It is a great tank for bullying random pubbies. 
  However it’s pretty weak for folks who can aim and exploit its weaknesses.  
 

[LazerDad]

Major_Sweatpants, on 12 May 2020 - 12:37 PM, said:

it all started with a kiss...

imagine the T-10 mixed with the Tiger II. thats the Obj. 252U. now i very much want it, its *slightly* broken, but it's lower plate is the size of the observable universe.

That’s a pretty big lfp©

 

 

[Major_Sweatpants]

Schantzy, on 12 May 2020 - 07:48 AM, said:

That’s a pretty big lfp©

 

 

not compared to the UFP, as the universe is (supposedly) too big to explore all of. rather large LFP, but bigger UFP. it could also be described as an IS-5 on steroids.

[generalhonks]

I don’t have it, but I’ve played with and against them. One thing to know is that it’s good for bullying new players who don’t know it’s weak spots, but experienced players will be able to hit your lowar plate. The sides are troll, so to use it effectively, hide your lower plate, and sidescrape when you can. For 10k gold, it’s a pretty good deal, makes me wish I had saved some gold for it.

Edited by generalhonks, 12 May 2020 - 04:00 PM.

[_Cletus]

I don't have it, but I do think it's overrated.  It was originally sold for $49 I think.  It's claim to fame is that the upper plate and turret have some almost unpennable armor.  If it's properly positioned hull down nobody can ever pen it.  But it's doesn't have much gun depression, and it's a russian gun anyway, and it's slow as molasses.  It's not easy to get a perfect hulldown position where the reds are sitting in front of you, if you aren't hull down you have a truly massive and easily pennable lower plate, and if the red has any mobility at all he'll hit your sides and rear.  The sides are just as troll as any other IS tank, you have to hit the right spot, but it's the same spot as the other dozen IS-whatevers.

 

Edited to add:  It also still has a stupid pike nose.  Your higher penetrating guns will still pen the pike if you get a flat shot on it.

Edited by _Cletus, 12 May 2020 - 01:19 PM.

[j_rod]

3rd highest winrate in tier 8 and highest survivability. If you like IS-style tanking, it’s more or less the strongest tier 8 version.

[IronBehemoth]

Its absolutely busted. Its got stronger frontal armor than the IS7. One of my clanmates is over 6k rating using the 252U and says the tanks broken ASF. Its absolutely hilarious to me whenever somebody says its balanced because of its lower front plate, because even the slighest incline will hide it, and any miss on the lower front plate is an autobounce.

Edited by IronBehemoth, 12 May 2020 - 01:53 PM.

[RonaldusMaximus_]

I see entire tier 8 teams made of these in tournaments.

[_Cletus]

Oh it's definitely overrated.

 

I just bought it.

[Major_Sweatpants]

_Cletus, on 12 May 2020 - 08:59 AM, said:

Oh it's definitely overrated.

 

I just bought it.

O-O

[wrecker1968]

It's killable, Unless you have a truly experience player at the helm.

 Then it's tough.

[Chiefmac]

8,500 gold not too terribly bad of a price. 

[_Cletus]

Chiefmac, on 12 May 2020 - 09:05 AM, said:

8,500 gold not too terribly bad of a price. 

 

Compared to $50 when it first came out it's a steal.

[_Fu_Manchu_]

It's a very good tank. Yes, as Cru says, experienced players can take advantage of its weaknesses. But the vast majority of players are trash, so that's not a major concern for 252U drivers.

 

Wrecker points out that it's killable. All tanks are killable. In pub battles, the 252U is less killable than most other tier 8s.

 

But, it is also more IS spam. Good tank, decent price.

[_Yohtician]

_Cletus, on 12 May 2020 - 01:19 PM, said:

I don't have it, but I do think it's overrated.  It was originally sold for $49 I think.  It's claim to fame is that the upper plate and turret have some almost unpennable armor.  If it's properly positioned hull down nobody can ever pen it.  But it's doesn't have much gun depression, and it's a russian gun anyway, and it's slow as molasses.  It's not easy to get a perfect hulldown position where the reds are sitting in front of you, if you aren't hull down you have a truly massive and easily pennable lower plate, and if the red has any mobility at all he'll hit your sides and rear.  The sides are just as troll as any other IS tank, you have to hit the right spot, but it's the same spot as the other dozen IS-whatevers.

 

Edited to add:  It also still has a stupid pike nose.  Your higher penetrating guns will still pen the pike if you get a flat shot on it.

Doesn’t matter if the pike is flat because the angle is so servers it’s almost auto bounce 

[_Cletus]

_The_Tactition_, on 12 May 2020 - 10:17 AM, said:

Doesn’t matter if the pike is flat because the angle is so servers it’s almost auto bounce 

 

If the 252 angles badly and I get a perpendicular shot, I can pen it with my T-34 or my Tiger II.

[Tackywheat1]

252U just needs to hide LFP. Cupolas are too small to have a high chance of hitting. The upper side armor is also very very hard to pen, much like the rest of the IS's.