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Hye_yeon_Cho #1 Posted 18 August 2020 - 09:15 PM

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Yeah, I'm gonna annoy a lot of people with this thread.

So a while ago I looked up the 62a on Wikipedia and found it had a 115mm gun, and made a thread about it. It turns out the original 62 had a 115, but the 62A had a 100mm. 

So what if... There was a 115 mm gun option that had better alpha, but worse pen, accuracy, DPM, e.t.c.

Since most (or all) 105mm guns have 350 alpha, and 120mm guns have 400 alpha, I was thinking the 115mm gun would have around 375 or 380. 

As for reload, I was thinking like 11 or 12 seconds, but that would still result in 3300 DPM, so I dunno. If even anyone is on board with this idea, which I highly doubt, could anyone give me an idea of the reload time? 

And penetration, maybe 235. I feel like that would be balanced, and definitely would need heat. Or apcr if standard shells are ap.

Shell velocity should be around 1200, since the wz med has 1k and original 62a has 15k.

Accuracy shouldn't be to good, but not bad either. The Russians keep their traditional accurate guns in tier x. 

I dunno about these values, and like I said if anyone likes this idea, help me out here.

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Edited by Hye_yeon_Cho, 18 August 2020 - 09:21 PM.


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View PostHye_yeon_Cho, on 18 August 2020 - 03:15 PM, said:

Yeah, I'm gonna annoy a lot of people with this thread.

So a while ago I looked up the 62a on Wikipedia and found it had a 115mm gun, and made a thread about it. It turns out the original 62 had a 115, but the 62A had a 100mm. 

So what if... There was a 115 mm gun option that had better alpha, but worse pen, accuracy, DPM, e.t.c.

Since most (or all) 105mm guns have 350 alpha, and 120mm guns have 400 alpha, I was thinking the 115mm gun would have around 375 or 380. 

As for reload, I was thinking like 11 or 12 seconds, but that would still result in 3300 DPM, so I dunno. If even anyone is on board with this idea, which I highly doubt, could anyone give me an idea of the reload time? 

And penetration, maybe 235. I feel like that would be balanced, and definitely would need heat. Or apcr if standard shells are ap.

Shell velocity should be around 1200, since the wz med has 1k and original 62a has 15k.

Accuracy shouldn't be to good, but not bad either. The Russians keep their traditional accurate guns in tier x. 

I dunno about these values, and like I said if anyone likes this idea, help me out here.

Thanks tankers!

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Posit1ve_ #4 Posted 18 August 2020 - 10:09 PM

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The reason why T-62A doesn't have the 115mm has nothing to do with balance

The reason why it doesn't is because WG will not add smoothbore guns to the game. Smoothbore guns and composite armor are the 2 big no-no's for WG. People erroneously believe that it's a date or something that WG uses as the cutoff, but it's actually these 2 pieces of tank tech that determine the cutoff

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Hye_yeon_Cho #5 Posted 19 August 2020 - 12:02 AM

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View PostPosit1ve_, on 18 August 2020 - 10:09 PM, said:

The reason why T-62A doesn't have the 115mm has nothing to do with balance

The reason why it doesn't is because WG will not add smoothbore guns to the game. Smoothbore guns and composite armor are the 2 big no-no's for WG. People erroneously believe that it's a date or something that WG uses as the cutoff, but it's actually these 2 pieces of tank tech that determine the cutoff

What's wrong with smoothbore guns?



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View PostHye_yeon_Cho, on 18 August 2020 - 06:02 PM, said:

What's wrong with smoothbore guns?


Smoothbore guns can fire more advanced ammunition while your rifiled gun can only fire more basic ammunition.


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Doesn't the KpfPz-70 have a smoothbore gun/launcher? Same with the missile tanks, and T49?

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View Postangus_defender, on 18 August 2020 - 08:29 PM, said:

Doesn't the KpfPz-70 have a smoothbore gun/launcher? Same with the missile tanks, and T49?

Well, actually no. That gun is the XM81/XM150 which is rifled.

 

View PostHye_yeon_Cho, on 18 August 2020 - 07:02 PM, said:

What's wrong with smoothbore guns?

Not sure, but they would probably just be too radically different from normal gun mechanics, and WG doesn't want to deal with them. Also, modern smoothbore guns have way too much penetration for WoT/Blitz era tanks.


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Missiles are fine but smoothbore guns are NOT Ok?

 

I thought guided missiles was more advanced mechanic than smoothbore.

Any good video on riffled vs smoothbore?


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Hye_yeon_Cho #10 Posted 19 August 2020 - 11:48 PM

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View Posttanker070, on 19 August 2020 - 01:17 PM, said:

Missiles are fine but smoothbore guns are NOT Ok?

 

I thought guided missiles was more advanced mechanic than smoothbore.

Any good video on riffled vs smoothbore?

Right. 

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Hye_yeon_Cho #12 Posted 28 October 2020 - 08:32 PM

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View PostCommanderSean_2014, on 28 October 2020 - 08:23 PM, said:

No

At this point I get that.






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