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Venstar21 #1 Posted 15 September 2020 - 07:17 PM

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I was in chill training room and decided to ask my friend (who was showing off the Maus in its Legendary camo he just got) if I can do a pen test.

I was on top of the house on Himmesldorf (I think its a house) when I shot the weakspot on back of turret with he and it penned!

Ik its a weakspot but the T49's HE has low pen how did this happen?


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generalhonks #2 Posted 15 September 2020 - 09:38 PM

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It could just be a rare occurrence. I got ammo racked frontally from a T49 in my WZ-111-1G-FT once.

 

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Hye_yeon_Cho #3 Posted 16 September 2020 - 12:52 PM

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Both of you are idiots or I'm just being mean - you splashed the Maus. This means that with HE, the shell does not penetrate but it explodes on the surface of the enemy armor. 

How much damage did it do? Did it do around a full HE 1k roll, or less than that? 



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View PostHye_yeon_Cho, on 16 September 2020 - 08:52 AM, said:

Both of you are idiots or I'm just being mean - you splashed the Maus. This means that with HE, the shell does not penetrate but it explodes on the surface of the enemy armor. 

How much damage did it do? Did it do around a full HE 1k roll, or less than that? 


Read the original post. He said that it penned. Besides, I don’t think you can splash a Maus, the armor is too thick, but I could be wrong. It could just be a rare event that doesn’t happen often.


 

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View Postgeneralhonks, on 16 September 2020 - 09:28 AM, said:


Read the original post. He said that it penned. Besides, I don’t think you can splash a Maus, the armor is too thick, but I could be wrong. It could just be a rare event that doesn’t happen often.

 

He thought he penned it because he gave damage to the Maus. But in reality, it was splash damage from the HE round.


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T49 has 83mm of HE pen calibrated.

 

The MG port on the maus turret's rear is 100mm thick.

 

 

Hmmmmmm......


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View PostNoob666_, on 17 September 2020 - 03:38 AM, said:

T49 has 83mm of HE pen calibrated.

 

The MG port on the maus turret's rear is 100mm thick.

 

 

Hmmmmmm......

Exactly! It's just not possible! It probs just splashed for maybe a tiny bit of dmg and he thought it penned. Plus, it would be more than 100mm bc getting exactly a 0 degree angle is almost impossible. How much damage did it do? That'll determine what happened.



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View PostHye_yeon_Cho, on 17 September 2020 - 11:34 AM, said:

Exactly! It's just not possible! It probs just splashed for maybe a tiny bit of dmg and he thought it penned. Plus, it would be more than 100mm bc getting exactly a 0 degree angle is almost impossible. How much damage did it do? That'll determine what happened.

It did pen for 893 damage. Also rng can affect pen by adding/subtracting 5% of the original pen so about 90mm of pen


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Hye_yeon_Cho #9 Posted 24 September 2020 - 12:47 AM

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View PostVenstar21, on 23 September 2020 - 03:42 AM, said:

It did pen for 893 damage. Also rng can affect pen by adding/subtracting 5% of the original pen so about 90mm of pen

Are you sure it didnt ricochet off the turret and into the hull deck? Because that's only about 55mm thick. If you have a replay of it, watch that and see where the shell mark is. If you have that turned on, though.



Venstar21 #10 Posted 24 September 2020 - 12:54 AM

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I just did. It hit the hulk deck and penned but it never hit the turret. I was on top of one of those small warehouses that are in-between the train cars and the ruined building.
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View PostVenstar21, on 24 September 2020 - 12:54 AM, said:

I just did. It hit the hulk deck and penned but it never hit the turret. I was on top of one of those small warehouses that are in-between the train cars and the ruined building.

But then why did you say it hit the turret?



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rng maybe?

the perk that does increases pen


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View PostCommanderSean_2014, on 25 September 2020 - 01:22 PM, said:

rng maybe?

the perk that does increases pen

We talked about that, but it still doesn't reach 100mm. Besides, we already came to the conclusion it hit the hull deck but someone said it hit the turret.



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View PostHye_yeon_Cho, on 25 September 2020 - 03:06 PM, said:

We talked about that, but it still doesn't reach 100mm. Besides, we already came to the conclusion it hit the hull deck but someone said it hit the turret.

do u understand what was i talking about?
i said perk,not equipment

the penetration boost crew skill


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It's possible you penned the Maus' engine deck at a 90° angle. That's the only way it could have been achieved, RNG factors aside.

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View PostCommanderSean_2014, on 26 September 2020 - 06:30 PM, said:

do u understand what was i talking about?
i said perk,not equipment

the penetration boost crew skill

Yes, ik

 

 



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View PostNathanronco, on 26 September 2020 - 09:32 PM, said:

It's possible you penned the Maus' engine deck at a 90° angle. That's the only way it could have been achieved, RNG factors aside.

We talked about this. Read the previous posts



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View PostHye_yeon_Cho, on 26 September 2020 - 09:21 PM, said:

We talked about this. Read the previous posts

He said it hit the hull deck, as I suggested.



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View PostNathanronco, on 27 September 2020 - 11:33 AM, said:

He said it hit the hull deck, as I suggested.

As I suggested, idiot.



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View PostHye_yeon_Cho, on 24 September 2020 - 12:47 AM, said:

Are you sure it didnt ricochet off the turret and into the hull deck? Because that's only about 55mm thick. If you have a replay of it, watch that and see where the shell mark is. If you have that turned on, though.

See? I posted this before you even said anything about this topic.







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