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[jdc178]

I have been debating this with my friend for a while... It always comes down to me saying if you wiggle you will bounce, and him saying tiger2 better in every way.

i think a slight armor or mobility buff might be good. (i do not have the tank yet) plz dont yell at me and say theres other tanks that need buffing, not the is3, i agree, i just think with the abundance of IS-x tanks something to give to the original might be nice.

[Vantablack12]

I played the IS-3 not too long ago. Its a very good tank in the right hands. I can see why someone would think it needs a buff, but imo it doesn't need one yet.

[KempBushThe3rd]

The armor doesn't work and I don't remember the last time I had trouble penning an IS-3 that wasn't hull down. Whether that's enough to warrant a buff is for you to decide.

[tankeatingtiger]

The Is3 already has the best turret at tier 8. Ignore your friend, the Tiger II is massively overrated.

[jdc178]

tankeatingtiger, on 06 November 2020 - 01:45 AM, said:

The Is3 already has the best turret at tier 8. Ignore your friend, the Tiger II is massively overrated.

1. the tiger is not over ratted, it is one of the best tanks in its teir

2. Its hard to use a turret when you have 5 degrees of gun dipression.

3. Im not saying its not a good tank, its just i would preffer it have a hull that can bounce standard rounds from a same teir heavy, at least on the top plate.

4. im not saying something huge, just like 5-15 effective mm on the upper plate.

Edited by jdc178, 06 November 2020 - 02:33 AM.

[jdc178]

Spoiler

 

This is its front upper plate. If if could increase from about 210ish to something more like 220 it would be great. if not, i will just have to endure my friends screams of rage as i get the is3 instead of saving money for a t57 heavy which i havent eaven researched 

[tankeatingtiger]

jdc178, on 05 November 2020 - 09:31 PM, said:

1. the tiger is not over ratted, it is one of the best tanks in its teir

2. Its hard to use a turret when you have 5 degrees of gun dipression.

3. Im not saying its not a good tank, its just i would preffer it have a hull that can bounce standard rounds from a same teir heavy, at least on the top plate.

4. im not saying something huge, just like 5-15 effective mm on the upper plate.

1. Tiger II is extremely overrated. Anybody that can press the 2 key can beat it without much of a problem.
2. The Is-3, while not having that much gun depression, has an extremely low profile, so you can hide the hull in a lot of positions
3-4. Angled correctly the hull can still get some bounces, but with the super strong turret, good mobility, and above average Russian gun, giving it any significant amount of hull armor would break it.

[KaniFan]

Tiger 2: Unpenneble to tier 7s, butter against tier 8s that knows what are gold rounds and tier 9s.

[Messi_Finito]

The tiger2 is a well balanced vehicle

[1ittlejohnny]

tankeatingtiger, on 06 November 2020 - 01:45 AM, said:

The Is3 already has the best turret at tier 8. Ignore your friend, the Tiger II is massively overrated.

tiger 2 is very very good whereas is-3 kinda sucks. when i played is3 5 years ago it was op tho.

[_TheMagician]

A hull that can take shells? Oh boy, just sidescrape, reverse sidescrape and go hull down and it'll be a bounce fest. It's a tank that rquires hell of a lot of skill tondo well in. For the Tiger II you only need that someone gets your sides or loads prammo and your armor is rendered useless, and with the higher profile ot becomes harder to take cover

[waga100]

I think maybe it just needs a gun handling buff. On PC it has an equally horrible front but it works because it has a great gun, based off solid handling. But every heavy at tier 8 has the same horrendous accuracy, 400 alpha, horrifically low dpm, 225 pen gun. 

[bwcamp]

tankeatingtiger, on 05 November 2020 - 09:53 PM, said:

1. Tiger II is extremely overrated. Anybody that can press the 2 key can beat it without much of a problem.
2. The Is-3, while not having that much gun depression, has an extremely low profile, so you can hide the hull in a lot of positions
3-4. Angled correctly the hull can still get some bounces, but with the super strong turret, good mobility, and above average Russian gun, giving it any significant amount of hull armor would break it.

1. Tiger 2 is not extremely overrated, just because gold can pen it doesn't mean it's bad, lol. With that logic, almost every heavy in the game needs a buff.
2. I agree.
3. You don't wanna angle IS-3 armor, that decreases your effective thickness.

[Mako__Reizei___]

The only buff that IS-3 ever needed imo was the armor model change. After the model change the top bar is so hard to hit that it can no longer even be considered a weakness and in the hands of a great player the tank is going to shine.

[jdc178]

Thank you for the feed back. Can any of you geve me tips on its play style? 

[_TheMagician]

jdc178, on 06 November 2020 - 03:04 PM, said:

Thank you for the feed back. Can any of you geve me tips on its play style? 

Like I said before, hull down, sidescrape, reverse sidescrape, face hug and side hug are what always work best, if you master those techinques, the IS-3 will become a monster in your hands.

[tankeatingtiger]

bwcamp, on 06 November 2020 - 06:05 AM, said:

1. Tiger 2 is not extremely overrated, just because gold can pen it doesn't mean it's bad, lol. With that logic, almost every heavy in the game needs a buff.
2. I agree.
3. You don't wanna angle IS-3 armor, that decreases your effective thickness.

1. Not many other heavies turn into an autopen vs most prammo and are still considered good
2. 
3. Not a conventional angle, but you can overangle the upper plate to bait shots, or use cover to only expose one side.

[jdc178]

just saying, the is3 is an auto pen frontaly if you use pramo unless you hulldown... or sidscraping i guess.

[jdc178]

Valkyrie04, on 06 November 2020 - 12:40 AM, said:

A hull that can take shells? Oh boy, just sidescrape, reverse sidescrape and go hull down and it'll be a bounce fest. It's a tank that rquires hell of a lot of skill tondo well in. For the Tiger II you only need that someone gets your sides or loads prammo and your armor is rendered useless, and with the higher profile ot becomes harder to take cover

Look, im not trying to make anyone angry. im just saying anyhing the is3 can do (other than hulldown although both have a great turret) the tiger can do better...

Edited by jdc178, 06 November 2020 - 07:16 PM.

[Messi_Finito]

Nah, the is3 is good as it is.

The 252u needs a buff