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Now that WG is removing ATGMs, can we talk about removing the Smasher?

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Ragnarok_Stravius #1 Posted 15 November 2020 - 12:57 PM

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I never had problems with the ATGMs, only got into Tier IX months after the their inclusion, I only thought of them a gimmicks for a new useless light tank.

 

But, I always had problems with the Smasher, when it was added, I thought it was a reskinned KV-2 for a quick cash grab, but then it started getting spammed like hell, and it the amount of times it bounced shells for no reason and the times it penned me for no reason, I grew to hate this OP Trash.

 

Now, that WG finally removed something that the Community hated, can WG remove the Smasher, something everyone, except the worthless players that spam it, also hates?


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Dolly_Sod #2 Posted 15 November 2020 - 01:05 PM

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They should do to the Smasher and the Annihilator what they are doing to the blue Sherridan.  Make them only available for the brainless game modes. 

 

 



daREAL_trainboi #3 Posted 15 November 2020 - 02:24 PM

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That way people can keep then and use them in fun modes that do not affect stats, but normal matches need not worry.

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Ragnarok_Stravius #4 Posted 15 November 2020 - 02:26 PM

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View PostDolly_Sod, on 15 November 2020 - 10:05 AM, said:

They should do to the Smasher and the Annihilator what they are doing to the blue Sherridan.  Make them only available for the brainless game modes. 

 

 

 

As far as the OP Cancer goes, the Annihilator is nowhere near the Smasher.

 

Annihilator can stay, as long as he doesn't become an unwanted guest to me.


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Dolly_Sod #5 Posted 15 November 2020 - 02:32 PM

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View PostRagnarok_Stravius, on 15 November 2020 - 09:26 AM, said:

 

As far as the OP Cancer goes, the Annihilator is nowhere near the Smasher.

 

Annihilator can stay, as long as he doesn't become an unwanted guest to me.

 

I feel the opposite.  I think a Smasher is slow, has a giant turret, and a longish reload.  It is easily countered.  Whereas the Annihilator is fast, has trollier armor and is not as easily countered.  

 

The Smasher works better when it's bottom tier, but I think the Annihilator is more of a terror when Top Tier.  


Edited by Dolly_Sod, 15 November 2020 - 02:33 PM.


GLKamper #6 Posted 15 November 2020 - 02:33 PM

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Don’t forget to ban the Dracula and Helsing, too. And the Vindicator and that other stupid looking LEGO tank.  Why not make a permanent “fun mode” that’s restricted to tech tree tanks only?  Other than the fact that no one would play it, it sounds like a great idea. 

 

Pay to Play tanks like Smasher and Annihilator keep the WG servers up and running. I was considering playing the Smasher less now that the ATGMs were leaving but with all this talk about banishing it, I guess I’ll keep on playing the Smasher and have fun while I can. 



andyllinger #7 Posted 15 November 2020 - 02:48 PM

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They should also remove the WZ-120-FT fake OP tank, dracula, helsing and T-22 medium along with every other OP tank that i do not own, that would make me happy.

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tankeatingtiger #8 Posted 15 November 2020 - 02:54 PM

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View PostGLKamper, on 15 November 2020 - 09:33 AM, said:

Don’t forget to ban the Dracula and Helsing, too. And the Vindicator and that other stupid looking LEGO tank.  Why not make a permanent “fun mode” that’s restricted to tech tree tanks only?  Other than the fact that no one would play it, it sounds like a great idea. 

 

Pay to Play tanks like Smasher and Annihilator keep the WG servers up and running. I was considering playing the Smasher less now that the ATGMs were leaving but with all this talk about banishing it, I guess I’ll keep on playing the Smasher and have fun while I can. 

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daREAL_trainboi #9 Posted 15 November 2020 - 02:57 PM

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I think the real fantasy tanks (Halloween, Mad Games, etc) should get the same treatment as the blue Sheridan. However, vehicles such as the Strv 74A2, M4 FL10, the GuP tanks, etc. should stay in random battles as they technically are real tanks.

 

I'm just sick of seeing at least 1 Smasher and/or Annihilator on my team every game. It's so annoying, and I'm sick of them flooding the random queue.


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acrisis #10 Posted 15 November 2020 - 03:07 PM

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There are other fantasy tanks that pose far greater issues than a Smasher. 

 

Sure, it blows to be on the receiving end of one or two derps and get sent back to the garage.

But it moves slow, reloads slow, has a lot of dispersion, can be penned, etc.

 

The same thing cannot be said for some other fantasy tanks ... that are nearly impenetrable, fire two shells at a time, six shells in a row, ...  


 

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j_rod #11 Posted 15 November 2020 - 03:43 PM

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View Postacrisis, on 15 November 2020 - 09:07 AM, said:

There are other fantasy tanks that pose far greater issues than a Smasher. 

 

Sure, it blows to be on the receiving end of one or two derps and get sent back to the garage.

But it moves slow, reloads slow, has a lot of dispersion, can be penned, etc.

 

The same thing cannot be said for some other fantasy tanks ... that are nearly impenetrable, fire two shells at a time, six shells in a row, ...  

 

Or non-fantasy tanks like the WZ-120-1G FT.

 

The only  difference with the Smasher is that it’s hard to do bad in it. You could fire exclusively HE and have an impact on the outcome of the game 


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View PostRagnarok_Stravius, on 15 November 2020 - 09:26 AM, said:

 

As far as the OP Cancer goes, the Annihilator is nowhere near the Smasher.

 

Annihilator can stay, as long as he doesn't become an unwanted guest to me.


Good thing WG doesn’t care what tanks you have a problem with. 
 



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richdubz #13 Posted 15 November 2020 - 03:49 PM

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View Postj_rod, on 15 November 2020 - 10:43 AM, said:

The only  difference with the Smasher is that it’s hard to do bad in it. You could fire exclusively HE and have an impact on the outcome of the game 


This.  Any schmuck with a Smasher has an effect on the game that far outweighs their actual ability or experience.  Maybe that was the plan, but it sucks.



Ragnarok_Stravius #14 Posted 15 November 2020 - 04:13 PM

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View PostDolly_Sod, on 15 November 2020 - 11:32 AM, said:

 

I feel the opposite.  I think a Smasher is slow, has a giant turret, and a longish reload.  It is easily countered.  Whereas the Annihilator is fast, has trollier armor and is not as easily countered.  

 

The Smasher works better when it's bottom tier, but I think the Annihilator is more of a terror when Top Tier.  

 

Again, I feel the opposite.

 

The Annihilator has a trollish armor profile, and his armor is somewhat trollish, those are facts, it's made out of curvier armor, but most tanks can go through his armor.

 

Smasher is only made of flat panels, yet it can sometimes blocks shots even from my VK-100 and Lowe.

 

Annihilator has a burst-fire only gun, at normal combat ranges, like 30 or so meters, the first shot will hit you, but the second might not, and the third won't, at closer ranges it will rip you apart, but the time it takes to close that gap is enough for you to shoot him somewhere pennable or just run away into cover.

 

Smasher can sometimes just look at you and take away 500hp with no work put into it, be it because of "Stalin's guide" or actual better RNG, it doesn't matter what you're using, actually, it kinda does, if you're using a VK-100, he'll just take low 500s hp from you, if you're lucky, just high 400s hp, if you using a Tier VII and VI, he's taking a lot more health out of you.

 

The other term I use for Smasher, other than Cancer, is Bull Feces, because it can pull off stuff with no logical reason, I can only speak from my experience, Smasher should not have been made, and should've been removed in the update after it's inclusion.


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Annihilator > Smasher 

 

I agree that the Smasher is more nub friendly, but a competent player is going to out perform in an Annihilator 


Edited by ____Zer0____, 15 November 2020 - 04:29 PM.


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Imagine complaining about ONLY 1-2 tanks in tier 7...
   Tier 7 has a slew of broken tanks. 
The Smasher isn’t even the worst offender, it’s really just a nub clubber, and fairly easy to counter.  

 

Play tier 8 and higher and you don’t really care about that. 
 

 

 

 


 

 
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I have zero problems with the tanks in game. Fantasy or not. 

 

 


 

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View Post_Crusader6_, on 15 November 2020 - 01:43 PM, said:

Imagine complaining about ONLY 1-2 tanks in tier 7...
   Tier 7 has a slew of broken tanks. 
The Smasher isn’t even the worst offender, it’s really just a nub clubber, and fairly easy to counter.  

 

Play tier 8 and higher and you don’t really care about that. 
 

 

 

 

How can I not care about the Smasher?

 

I play mostly Tier VIII, and that thing can still do illogical stuff against VK-100s and Lowe's, I already said this before, sometimes my shots can't through it no matter what, while it can easily pen me for no reason, no maybe what I do.


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