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thenerfdude #1 Posted 08 December 2020 - 08:01 AM

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What would you think about having larger teams per game? In many of the games I play, the team has no choice but to only push one side, with many games just being 2 lemming trains fighting eachother.

Well, sometime in 2018, the matchmaker freaked out and actually started making 9 v 9 battles.

Image of me being loaded into a 9 v 9

Here is a video of a 9 v 9 that I found of youtube

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So? What do you think?.. I can already hear someone talking about 7 v 7s being easier to carry  :rolleyes:

 


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THERebrth #2 Posted 08 December 2020 - 08:08 AM

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I feel like 9v9 should probably be in its own seperate modesSince not all the maps will be suited for having so many tanks on the battlefield. On some maps it will probably be more on fighting your own teammates for the good spots. Plus as wg have said, having more than 7v7 wouldnt be blitz anymore so they arent really thinking of having game modes with more tanks. Still would be interested to see what its like tho since i have never been in a 9v9

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Crescent_Rose_ #3 Posted 08 December 2020 - 09:04 AM

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I almost forgot about the time Blitz matchmaking broke. If I remember correctly it was around about the time they started supporting PC. In short, it was awful. The maps are really not designed for that many players. Some of the new bigger maps at the time the only map in the queue that could have feasibly held 9 players was vineyards I think, the rest were awful.



thenerfdude #4 Posted 08 December 2020 - 10:36 AM

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View PostCrescent_Rose_, on 08 December 2020 - 11:04 AM, said:

I almost forgot about the time Blitz matchmaking broke. If I remember correctly it was around about the time they started supporting PC. In short, it was awful. The maps are really not designed for that many players. Some of the new bigger maps at the time the only map in the queue that could have feasibly held 9 players was vineyards I think, the rest were awful.

From the match I had on desert sands, I gotta say it was not that bad. 

 

But 9 v 9 on a map like dynastys pearl or copperfield probably wont work


Edited by thenerfdude, 08 December 2020 - 11:18 AM.

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Posit1ve_ #5 Posted 08 December 2020 - 10:58 AM

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Larger playercounts are stupid.

 

All it does is lead to static, passive gameplay. Basically, with more players, it just stuffs more players into the same amount of map lanes, so no matter where you go, there's more crap waiting for you. 

 

All you have to do is play some WoT PC to know what I mean. Even though WoT PC has way larger maps, just because it's 15v15 the gameplay is absolutely terrible, simply because half the match is just sitting and waiting for the enemy to make a mistake

 

If heaven forbid you want to make a play, there's 3 hull down heavy tanks, an STRV, and a fully loaded Bat Chat all waiting for you to make a move so they can delete you. 

 

9v9 on Blitz would be little different given that our maps are already 1/4th the size. The second they increase the number of players in a battle is the second I stop playing this game because I have no interest in camping for 5 minutes every battle


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acrisis #6 Posted 08 December 2020 - 12:57 PM

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Won’t happen ... 

This comes up every few months ...

 

 

Along the lines of: 

 

Lower end devices.

Longer queue times.

Battle load.

Balancing teams.

Small maps.

More camping.

Need longer battles to get a result. 

Current accomplishments voided. 

 

 

 


 

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_Crusader6_ #7 Posted 08 December 2020 - 01:10 PM

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Why? 
 

 

  I mean Posit1ve and AC nailed all the negatives, I don’t see any benefits to it at all. 


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thenerfdude #9 Posted 08 December 2020 - 01:27 PM

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View Postacrisis, on 08 December 2020 - 02:57 PM, said:

Won’t happen ... 

This comes up every few months ...

 

 

Along the lines of: 

 

Lower end devices.

Longer queue times.

Battle load.

Balancing teams.

Small maps.

More camping.

Need longer battles to get a result. 

Current accomplishments voided. 

 

 

 

You hold some good points :harp:

 

Though I dont think it would encourage camping, I find its more based on if the map gives you oppertunity to camp... for example its almost impossible to camp on dynastys pearl.

 

Also I dont think map size is a problem, especially when you are just add 2 extra tanks for each team.

 

Maybe it can be put as special event, so it doesnt affect stats? 


Edited by thenerfdude, 08 December 2020 - 01:39 PM.

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Ddbro_gaming #10 Posted 08 December 2020 - 01:42 PM

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Some maps like Alpenstadt and Hellas are big enough to possibly support 9v9 but the problem is that in the meta people bunch up instead of spreading apart, and I think 9v9 might either help the problem having 4v4s on each flank plus a lurker, or may cause this problem to get worse, I would like this as a special game mode, or possibly even an event where they port over a Lower res textured map from wot pc and add +2-2 matchmaking

generalhonks #11 Posted 08 December 2020 - 01:48 PM

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Probably not. A lot of maps aren’t big enough to handle all of those players, and it would put lots of devices out of date and just as many would tend to crash a lot more often than they normally would. 

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lol333cmr #12 Posted 08 December 2020 - 01:52 PM

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generalhonks #13 Posted 08 December 2020 - 02:24 PM

    87 battles to 10k ;)

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View Postlol333cmr, on 08 December 2020 - 09:52 AM, said:

I once loaded into a 5v5.


I loaded into a 3v3 once. It was very late at night and not many people were on. There were about 5 people in the queue.


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_Cletus #14 Posted 08 December 2020 - 02:44 PM

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Why not make it a game mode and give it a shot?  We've got Skirmish, 5 v 5, why not try out 7 v 7?  The maps will be more crowded, sure, that's the point.  Queue times, balancing, whatever, it's a special mode.  I say why not.

 

Edited:  Or we could even try a 9 v 9.


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acrisis #15 Posted 08 December 2020 - 02:50 PM

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View Post_Cletus, on 08 December 2020 - 09:44 AM, said:

Why not make it a game mode and give it a shot?  We've got Skirmish, 5 v 5, why not try out 7 v 7?  The maps will be more crowded, sure, that's the point.  Queue times, balancing, whatever, it's a special mode.  I say why not.

 

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_Cletus #16 Posted 08 December 2020 - 03:09 PM

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View Postacrisis, on 08 December 2020 - 08:50 AM, said:

 

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generalhonks #17 Posted 08 December 2020 - 03:11 PM

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What if we do 7v7 on a Skirmish type map? It’ll give the same effect, but without a lot of the problems with straight up adding more players.

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Mako__Reizei___ #18 Posted 08 December 2020 - 03:14 PM

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Perhaps WG could put it in as a special mode. I am interested in brawling against more people in my heavies and seems fun.

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twirlingtowardsfreedom #19 Posted 08 December 2020 - 03:19 PM

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Well, there are benefits, but they just are benefits that most forum members wouldn't appreciate. Mainly it would turn every battle into a knife fight like the skirmish maps or when everyone goes to town on Middleburg. And for people who just want to spam into battles - you know their win rates - there's a pretty decent appeal to that.

 

Now, a new event mode that would mess with mechanics more? For instance, realistic-style layout with enhanced camo for TDs, or any other bizzare makeup? Always happy to try that out.



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Nah, I think it would create unforeseen problems. Things are fine the way they are right now. There are other issues that should be focused on.




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