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Kiwi_Kebab #1 Posted 28 December 2020 - 12:55 AM

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http://fighting-vehi...mx-13-105-tank/

 

I am an avid fan of the AMX 13 series of tanks. I love how the tanks look and their history as an export vehicle. As such, I would love to see the AMX 13 105 in the game.

 

The AMX 13 105 is exactly what is sounds like: an AMX 13 light tank fitted with a 105mm gun. In WoT PC, the AMX 13 105 is a tier X light tank. In Blitz, I think it would have to be a tier IX tank, given that the whole line in Blitz has been shifted down a level (for example, the AMX 13 90 is a tier IX vehicle in WoT PC instead of a tier VIII as we have in Blitz). 

 

Issues: We already have a full set of French light tanks. The Batchat is not a medium in Blitz, it is a light tank with light tank camo. The AMX 13 105 may be considered superfluous. What could be added to the AMX 13 105 to offset it from the Batchat AP, when the Batchat was designed in Blitz more like an AMX anyways?

 

We also are about to get Czechoslovakian mediums to the game, which includes the TVP T 50/51 at tier X, an autoloading medium with 4 shells. This will add to the pile of lightly armored autoloaders at the tier. It seems that the TVP will be the Batchat of Blitz while the Batchat acts like the AMX 13 105 of Blitz. 

 

Finally, I don't think the option would be terribly popular unless it was made strictly better than the Batchat, with the Batchat AP arguably being the least favorite of the tier IX lights.

 

Some options: The AMX 13 105 could be added as an alternate tech tree option at tier 9. While the Batchat AP only gets a 310 alpha gun (100mm gun), perhaps the AMX 13 105 could get the full 350 alpha strike. It would need to be appropriately balanced in this case.

 

The AMX 13 105 could be added as a premium tank at tier IX.

 

The AMX 13 90 could be allowed to carry a 105mm gun at tier VIII, making it a de facto AMX 13 105 (like how the M46 Patton is a de facto M47 Patton given the top turret). This is my least favorite option (the AMX 13 90 was an upgraded version of the AMX 13 75, but the AMX 13 105 was a whole new model), but would be the easiest to implement. They would have to make the gun handling and reload very poor to balance such high clip potential at tier VIII, given the AMX 13 90's mobility.

 

What are your thoughts on this idea?


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Mika_The_Vampire #2 Posted 28 December 2020 - 01:14 AM

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they could also add the AMX 58 

its basically a tier 8 AMX 13 105 thats been adjusted for tier 8 battles (its on console as the HMH AMX Model 58)

https://console.worl...MX_13_105_Hero/

 

i think it could fit on blitz pretty well. probably will need adjustments, but its a good starting point on the tank.

 

 

 

 

 


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This will sound slightly underpowered -- but it would be unique at Tier 10 and I'd argue it'd be viable...

 

Make it like the SP 1 C. 

 

Instead of a 3-shell autoloader, give it 2 rounds. Perhaps 370 alpha or something to compensate so it's not completely underpowered -- or even 350, as the Bat has 310 and TVP looks to have 310 as well. Give it a 4s interclip, 1700 HP, gun handling and view range similar to the Vickers.  ~700 alpha in 4 seconds is nothing to scoff at, but suitable for a tank with mobility and LT camo that would presumably be better than the Bat's. 

 

 


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View PostOokamidachi, on 27 December 2020 - 07:14 PM, said:

they could also add the AMX 58 

its basically a tier 8 AMX 13 105 thats been adjusted for tier 8 battles (its on console as the HMH AMX Model 58)

https://console.worl...MX_13_105_Hero/

 

i think it could fit on blitz pretty well. probably will need adjustments, but its a good starting point on the tank.


I didn't know about this one, this would be a cool addition I agree!

 

View PostTerutsuki, on 27 December 2020 - 07:32 PM, said:

This will sound slightly underpowered -- but it would be unique at Tier 10 and I'd argue it'd be viable...

 

Make it like the SP 1 C. 

 

Instead of a 3-shell autoloader, give it 2 rounds. Perhaps 370 alpha or something to compensate so it's not completely underpowered -- or even 350, as the Bat has 310 and TVP looks to have 310 as well. Give it a 4s interclip, 1700 HP, gun handling and view range similar to the Vickers.  ~700 alpha in 4 seconds is nothing to scoff at, but suitable for a tank with mobility and LT camo that would presumably be better than the Bat's. 

 

 

 

I like this idea; I would give it only 3 seconds interclip for better burst. I think 4 seconds might be too long, given you want to get in and out. If its only getting two shells (lower clip damage) it should be able to get the clip out pretty quick I think.


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