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PedroArturoRicoSusarrey #1 Posted 19 January 2021 - 10:52 PM

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El Algoritmo del juego fácilmente puede armar batallas con un mismo TIER o si junta más de uno no debe permitir 3, por otra parte la diferencia debe de ser de máximo un 10% a 15% en todos los elementos que conforman los tanques. El programa (juego) arma constantemente inequidades como poner TIER 4, 5 y 6 donde de por si 5 vs 6 ya es totalmente injusto para 5 pues existen diferencias muy marcadas de blindaje, puntos de vida, daño por minuto, penetración de municiones, daño de municiones, a tal grado que la mayoría de los 5 son destruidos por 2 o 3 tiros de un 6 y ese 5 deberá tratar de destruir con 5 o 6 tiros, eso hace un juego MAL BALANCEADO e INJUSTO, en cuanto a otros TIER no es muy distinto, más ahora con la inclusión de tanques como el Aniquilador, el problema lo hace el algoritmo mal desarrollado, pues llega a poner hasta 3 aniquiladores en un equipo y en el otro ninguno, hasta parece que lo hace apropósito pues llega a poner de un lado tanques MUY FUERTES y del otro muy débiles.

Resuelvan este PROBLEMA pues es muy sencillo hacerlo, lo más difícil ya lo tienen esto es pulir el juego, saludos...

_Cletus #2 Posted 19 January 2021 - 10:56 PM

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Me gustaría verlos permitir diferentes números de diferentes clases de tanques, proporcionaría más variabilidad al juego.

 

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_BobaFett #3 Posted 19 January 2021 - 11:00 PM

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Yo también creo que deberían hacer imposible entrar en un partido dos niveles más alto. O eso o simplemente eliminar el pelotón de fallas por completo.

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j_rod #4 Posted 19 January 2021 - 11:13 PM

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Estoy de acuerdo con la eliminación de los fallos, pero no estoy de acuerdo en que el juego sólo debería emparejar tanques del mismo nivel. Sería aburrido y alargar los tiempos de cola.

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j_rod #5 Posted 19 January 2021 - 11:16 PM

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Also, before anyone complains about this post being in Spanish, try downloading the Google Translate add-in so we can actually engage a larger chunk of the NA player base and get their opinions.

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whatzup22 #6 Posted 19 January 2021 - 11:40 PM

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Well then MM would be really, really slow. 90% of all games are 2 tiers rather than one.

YOLO_4_BOLO #7 Posted 19 January 2021 - 11:54 PM

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View Postj_rod, on 19 January 2021 - 11:16 PM, said:

Also, before anyone complains about this post being in Spanish, try downloading the Google Translate add-in so we can actually engage a larger chunk of the NA player base and get their opinions.

 

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j_rod #8 Posted 19 January 2021 - 11:58 PM

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View PostYOLO_4_BOLO, on 19 January 2021 - 05:54 PM, said:

 

Half of my clan is Spanish speaking. Google Translate is my friend


Ahh, great idea - what if WG implemented an in game translator? There’d be some benefit to NA but think about how much it would help EU or ASIA...


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Player_8289945279 #9 Posted 20 January 2021 - 12:29 AM

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There are some games that do this. However people would have to type with correct spelling  in battle chat for it to work

 



cheasesteak #10 Posted 20 January 2021 - 01:30 AM

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acrisis #11 Posted 20 January 2021 - 01:46 AM

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You are in the English speaking section, so please use English.

As for your complaint:

Así que solo quieres + - 0 Match Making.
Supongo que no estabas cuando tuvimos + - 2 Match Making para todos.
Porque la única forma en que eso sucede ahora es cuando la gente es lo suficientemente tonta como para fallar al pelotón con un +1. Eso es culpa suya o de ellos. No debería obtener una ventaja por hacer eso.


 

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VikkoTheTusken #12 Posted 20 January 2021 - 02:31 AM

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I'm in a nearly 100% Vietnamese clan in Warpath and there's a translate function built in to the chat.  It does nothing but foster teamwork, humor and friendship.

 

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j_rod #13 Posted 20 January 2021 - 02:31 AM

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View Postcheasesteak, on 19 January 2021 - 08:26 PM, said:

Nothing against Spanish speakers.  It is extremely rude to go into a gathering and start speaking in a language not everyone understands.  This is an English language forum.  I’d have the same opinion of a poster posting in French, Russian, Esperanto, or Klingon.  


It isn’t rude if the poster doesn’t know better, it’s ignorance. It’s also 2021 where technology is bridging the gap on the language barriers for us. I hit one button and it was translated for me and hit one more to translate my post back. 

 

I realize we have a Spanish speaking section and I’m already appealing to the mods to integrate it into ours so we can get a different perspective from these players.


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cheasesteak #14 Posted 20 January 2021 - 02:32 AM

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View Postj_rod, on 19 January 2021 - 11:16 PM, said:

Also, before anyone complains about this post being in Spanish, try downloading the Google Translate add-in so we can actually engage a larger chunk of the NA player base and get their opinions.

Google translate is a two way street.  If you are a non-English speaker posting on a English language forum you should use a translation program and Explain that you are not a native speaker.  Otherwise you are being just a d bag and Expecting people to either translate what you are saying, or you are excluding them on a forum that should be in their language.  Again, it would be like me going into the Spanish forum and posting questions in English.  I bet that would go over like a lead balloon (rightfully so). 



cheasesteak #15 Posted 20 January 2021 - 02:33 AM

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View Postj_rod, on 20 January 2021 - 02:31 AM, said:


It isn’t rude if the poster doesn’t know better, it’s ignorance. It’s also 2021 where technology is bridging the gap on the language barriers for us. I hit one button and it was translated for me and hit one more to translate my post back. 

 

I realize we have a Spanish speaking section and I’m already appealing to the mods to integrate it into ours so we can get a different perspective from these players.

Please no.  It is already painful reading some of the posts that are in what is allegedly English.  I really don’t want bad google translation littering the forum.  I’d probably leave. 


Edited by cheasesteak, 20 January 2021 - 02:35 AM.


j_rod #16 Posted 20 January 2021 - 02:41 AM

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View Postcheasesteak, on 19 January 2021 - 08:32 PM, said:

Google translate is a two way street.  If you are a non-English speaker posting on a English language forum you should use a translation program and Explain that you are not a native speaker.  Otherwise you are being just a d bag and Expecting people to either translate what you are saying, or you are excluding them on a forum that should be in their language.  Again, it would be like me going into the Spanish forum and posting questions in English.  I bet that would go over like a lead balloon (rightfully so). 


I agree with this but I’ll give a new poster the benefit of the doubt because they are new (assuming it’s not an inane MM conspiracy). 

 

That said, could you not have made that suggestion to the OP instead of just posting a link to the Spanish portion of the forum? Let’s be real, that section is dead and you make a good point so why not just just provide the suggestion you just did above?


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View PostPedroArturoRicoSusarrey, on 19 January 2021 - 05:52 PM, said:

El Algoritmo del juego fácilmente puede armar batallas con un mismo TIER o si junta más de uno no debe permitir 3, por otra parte la diferencia debe de ser de máximo un 10% a 15% en todos los elementos que conforman los tanques. El programa (juego) arma constantemente inequidades como poner TIER 4, 5 y 6 donde de por si 5 vs 6 ya es totalmente injusto para 5 pues existen diferencias muy marcadas de blindaje, puntos de vida, daño por minuto, penetración de municiones, daño de municiones, a tal grado que la mayoría de los 5 son destruidos por 2 o 3 tiros de un 6 y ese 5 deberá tratar de destruir con 5 o 6 tiros, eso hace un juego MAL BALANCEADO e INJUSTO, en cuanto a otros TIER no es muy distinto, más ahora con la inclusión de tanques como el Aniquilador, el problema lo hace el algoritmo mal desarrollado, pues llega a poner hasta 3 aniquiladores en un equipo y en el otro ninguno, hasta parece que lo hace apropósito pues llega a poner de un lado tanques MUY FUERTES y del otro muy débiles.

Resuelvan este PROBLEMA pues es muy sencillo hacerlo, lo más difícil ya lo tienen esto es pulir el juego, saludos...

 

I hope I understood his question.  I don't trust Google Translate, but my wife yells at me in Spanish, and I've watched a lot of Shakira videos, sooo.... El Annihilator no es un buen tanque for este pregunta.  La verdad es que las únicas personas que les gusta este tanque son las personas que lo conducen.  Este tanque es mas duro que muchas otros en Tier 8 también.  Las Leyes de equilibrios para los Tiers no se aplican a este tanque.

 

Just saying that using the Annihilator as the subject of his question isn't great.  It's a completely broken tank and makes Tiers meaningless..  It's a problem not just for the tier below, but for Tier 8 if you're driving anything that can be slapped for half your HP in a single clip.

 

Edited by richdubz, 20 January 2021 - 02:48 AM.


cheasesteak #18 Posted 20 January 2021 - 02:45 AM

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View Postj_rod, on 20 January 2021 - 02:41 AM, said:


I agree with this but I’ll give a new poster the benefit of the doubt because they are new (assuming it’s not an inane MM conspiracy). 

 

That said, could you not have made that suggestion to the OP instead of just posting a link to the Spanish portion of the forum? Let’s be real, that section is dead and you make a good point so why not just just provide the suggestion you just did above?

Probably because I was being a just a tiny bit of an a hole.  Just cranky I guess. 



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View Postcheasesteak, on 19 January 2021 - 08:45 PM, said:

Probably because I was being a just a tiny bit of an a hole.  Just cranky I guess. 


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View Postj_rod, on 19 January 2021 - 06:58 PM, said:


Ahh, great idea - what if WG implemented an in game translator? There’d be some benefit to NA but think about how much it would help EU or ASIA...

 

nah I enjoy using my crappy high school Spanish to try to decipher what's being said. Adds a degree of complexity to the game! 


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