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Chiefmac #21 Posted 05 February 2021 - 04:43 PM

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View PostCommanderSean_2014, on 04 February 2021 - 08:49 PM, said:

Wg buff e50m

At least the side plates on the turrett

Its a 80 mil plate

One degrees off and everything butter thru

Sidecraping in e50m is tricky

One degrees off and everything butter thru

Huge lower plate

With bad dpm

The 122 with 420 alpha only reloads . 7 slower

And mobility is only acceptable

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View PostTackywheat1, on 05 February 2021 - 11:27 AM, said:

You supplement DPM with RAM :trollface:

Bingo.  
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  It’s got a slew of buffs over the years and the turret armor and depression are a fantastic combo.  
 


 


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View Post_Crusader6_, on 05 February 2021 - 08:08 AM, said:

It’s one of the best tier X tanks for pubbie games.  
    It can bully meds, and delivery devastating rams to heaviums, and anything lighter 
  See a Kranvagn, hehe ram it for several hundred and spin it and then farm it.  

 

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View PostTackywheat1, on 05 February 2021 - 10:27 AM, said:

You supplement DPM with RAM :trollface:

Sounds like this is an Ork tank from WH40k, because you see, you gotta paint it red then go straight at the enemy, shooting at them till you hit
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Is this tank any good for skirmish mode?

 

I stunk in other modes with this tank :(


 

 

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View PostMarBearCat, on 06 February 2021 - 08:21 AM, said:

Is this tank any good for skirmish mode?

 

I stunk in other modes with this tank :(


I’ve only played skirmish in tier X and only in tournaments.  It was like watching a sidescrapping convention with HE splashing.  
  
To me the reduced maps are better for armored tanks as there isn’t a lot or flank ability. 
    The E50M wouldn’t be my first choice for skirmish based on my experience - but pubbies are a total different animal, so it may work.  


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Idk 

Just doesn't click with me 

The turret just isn't reliable enough for me

Dpm too.

 


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View PostGojira1150, on 05 February 2021 - 10:02 PM, said:

Sounds like this is an Ork tank from WH40k, because you see, you gotta paint it red then go straight at the enemy, shooting at them till you hit
Disclaimer, never played the tank, would go for it except I hate the Panther II

 

The entire line has highly accurate guns with strong frontal armor(yes the Panther 2 has usable frontal armor), troll turrets, and good/decent DPM and pen 


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View PostCommanderSean_2014, on 06 February 2021 - 12:04 PM, said:

Idk 

Just doesn't click with me 

The turret just isn't reliable enough for me

Dpm too.

 


Turret is only reliably using depression and some range.  
    It’s a pounce tank - you can support at mid range then roar in Ram and bully a med.   

The fact it’s as big as a barn with paper sides means you need to be cautious on positions until you are pretty sure no one is going to sink some serious HE into your sides.  


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View Post_Crusader6_, on 07 February 2021 - 06:01 AM, said:


Turret is only reliably using depression and some range.  
    It’s a pounce tank - you can support at mid range then roar in Ram and bully a med.   

The fact it’s as big as a barn with paper sides means you need to be cautious on positions until you are pretty sure no one is going to sink some serious HE into your sides.  

Thank you for your advise! 

Imma try that out :)

Although the turrett is a easy pen to a competent player :l


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View PostGojira1150, on 05 February 2021 - 10:02 PM, said:

Sounds like this is an Ork tank from WH40k, because you see, you gotta paint it red then go straight at the enemy, shooting at them till you hit
Disclaimer, never played the tank, would go for it except I hate the Panther II


Panther 2 may not be the best medium but the tank is perfectly workable.


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View PostNoob666_, on 06 February 2021 - 10:15 PM, said:


Panther 2 may not be the best medium but the tank is perfectly workable.

Indeed, the upper plate can bounce if you angle it and it has a accurate high pen gun (for a medium)


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I think he is referring to the E50m buff in regular. world of tanks.  It was buffed on nov 2020 with 150 mm of armor on turret cheeks

 


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The E 50M cheeks in Blitz are a max of 273mm effective (depression and a slight angle but not to lose autobounce on the turret side) 
  It’s not enough to stop high pen rounds - but the upper plate is over 460mm at depression, so as long as you jockey few folks are going to be able to hit and pen.  
 

Meds need to spam gold at anything other than the sides, rear and lower plate. 
   So you can pretty much Shoot, Ram, face hug and repeat as needed with impunity. 
The DPM trade off another med needs to use HEAT makes the E 50 M win even without any ramming. 

 


 


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View Post_Crusader6_, on 08 February 2021 - 12:20 AM, said:

The E 50M cheeks in Blitz are a max of 273mm effective (depression and a slight angle but not to lose autobounce on the turret side) 
  It’s not enough to stop high pen rounds - but the upper plate is over 460mm at depression, so as long as you jockey few folks are going to be able to hit and pen.  
 

Meds need to spam gold at anything other than the sides, rear and lower plate. 
   So you can pretty much Shoot, Ram, face hug and repeat as needed with impunity. 
The DPM trade off another med needs to use HEAT makes the E 50 M win even without any ramming. 

 


 

The question that i face in the e50m is that meds fight on ridgelines.

The e50m doesn't have the dpm nor the turret to work.

This is my dilemma.

And in a e50m u still need heat to pen the turret of russian /chinese meds.


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View PostCommanderSean_2014, on 07 February 2021 - 02:37 PM, said:

The question that i face in the e50m is that meds fight on ridgelines.

The e50m doesn't have the dpm nor the turret to work.

This is my dilemma.

And in a e50m u still need heat to pen the turret of russian /chinese meds.


Russia and Chinese meds don't have gun depression to work a Ridgeline -- if they are getting hits on you -- you are pushing too far - sit back more and farm them (using HEAT if you need) - if they push to expose - hit them with APCR, and try for a track when they are stuck with the gun in the air, this is the easiest farm then.

 

 


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Well balanced tank. Not op in the least but not weak either. Prammo is gonna pen most most tanks turrets so don’t be discouraged. That tank definitely bounces it’s fair share of shots and the gun is very good. 

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View PostNoob666_, on 06 February 2021 - 10:15 PM, said:


Panther 2 may not be the best medium but the tank is perfectly workable.

It just never clicked for me, never liked the gun on it, and its armor and mobility just felt lacking


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View Post_Crusader6_, on 08 February 2021 - 04:06 AM, said:


Russia and Chinese meds don't have gun depression to work a Ridgeline -- if they are getting hits on you -- you are pushing too far - sit back more and farm them (using HEAT if you need) - if they push to expose - hit them with APCR, and try for a track when they are stuck with the gun in the air, this is the easiest farm then.

 

 

6 degrees is more than enough.

And if i remember correctly the t62a has 7

Thats not far from the e50m's 8


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View PostCommanderSean_2014, on 07 February 2021 - 11:06 PM, said:

6 degrees is more than enough.

And if i remember correctly the t62a has 7

Thats not far from the e50m's 8

WZ-121 has 5 (and WZ-120 has a terrible 3)

T-54 also has 5...

Even the T-62A and 140 dont really have the gun depression to properly work a ridgeline. 


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OP, when was the last time you can recall having witnessed an object or person butter through another object or person? If something buttered through your turret, get a turret that isn’t made out of toast. 





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