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[THERebrth]

I am in miseryyy there aint nobody who can comfort me, oh yea. why wont you answer me, the silence is slowly killing me oh yea, pershing you really got me bad, you really got me baddd, Now I'm never gonna get you back, I'm never gonna get you back yea.

 

 

[acrisis]

You lost a battle or two? 

[daREAL_trainboi]

Weird. 

 

Or maybe I'm weird, I loved the Pershing. It's actually a pretty solid vehicle, very comfortable to play, I'd rank it in the top 5 researchable Tier VIII mediums.

 

I've made this argument too many times. So many people rat out the Pershing for being bad but don't actually learn to enjoy the tank. The same is true for other Tier 8 meds like the T69 or Indien-Panzer, which are very underrated. Really only the STA-1 and Centurion need some buffs.

[whatzup22]

All tier 8 TT meds are powercreeped. Perhaps the only good one is Ru 251

[daREAL_trainboi]

I’ve made this argument too many times but here we go.

 

Pershing is fine, maybe only needs a little buff.

 

T-44 is a beast. It doesn’t have any premium counterparts that powercreep it.

 

Indien Panzer is highly underrated and is actually decent. Trolly armor, -10 gun depression, good pen and decent DPM.

 

Panther II is good, I personally don’t like it but statistically  it’s definitely up there.

 

Centurion I is really not good to be honest. It did get a turret buff which allows it to bounce most mediums when hull down but I agree it’s needs some buffs.

 

T-34-2 is very underrated. I love it, the pen doesn’t seem to hold it back with the 122 mm gun.

 

Pantera is fantastic, otherwise you’re kidding yourself.

 

TVP VTU is just hard to play, it’s not terrible but it’s a painful tank. 
 

Really only the STA-1 needs a buff since it’s slow, has no armor, and doesn’t have the best DPM. Really only the pen is good. 

[whatzup22]

Forgot all about the 34-2 and Pantera. These tanks are decent boasting unique guns for meds. Guess i played progetto 46 too much times

For small caliber singleshots, probably all tanks except Ru became meh. Train boi you may enjoy it ,,but not me and many others.

[daREAL_trainboi]

If I, a sub-par player, can enjoy a lot of Tier 8 mediums that other people think are unplayable and even pro players call them bad, then there must be something wrong, lol!

 

 

You forgot to mention the T-44, its a very good vehicle. I run the 122 mm with another friend of mine in platoons and we just have buckets of fun yeeting enemy lights and mediums back to the garage. Otherwise I use the LB-1 gun which is decent now that the penetration with calibrated is 189 mm. It could use a bit more premium pen (maybe 235 mm to 245 mm) but otherwise it is fantastic.

[Messi_Finito]

pershing is trash

u would rather play the t20 in a t8 match

[whatzup22]

daREAL_trainboi, on 02 September 2021 - 12:09 AM, said:

If I, a sub-par player, can enjoy a lot of Tier 8 mediums that other people think are unplayable and even pro players call them bad, then there must be something wrong, lol!

 

 

You forgot to mention the T-44, its a very good vehicle. I run the 122 mm with another friend of mine in platoons and we just have buckets of fun yeeting enemy lights and mediums back to the garage. Otherwise I use the LB-1 gun which is decent now that the penetration with calibrated is 189 mm. It could use a bit more premium pen (maybe 235 mm to 245 mm) but otherwise it is fantastic.

Ok cool. I wont argue. u can enjoy ur T-44 while everyone else plays chimeras progettos revs and defender mark 1s

[Messi_Finito]

whatzup22, on 02 September 2021 - 11:48 PM, said:

Ok cool. I wont argue. u can enjoy ur T-44 while everyone else plays chimeras progettos revs and defender mark 1s

u forgor :skull: the raac 

Edited by KommandantSEEN_2014, 02 September 2021 - 03:51 PM.

[Sonny_Jim_Bojangles]

daREAL_trainboi, on 01 September 2021 - 04:09 PM, said:

If I, a sub-par player, can enjoy a lot of Tier 8 mediums that other people think are unplayable and even pro players call them bad, then there must be something wrong, lol!

 

Enjoy does not equal do well in. I'm glad you can enjoy tier 8 meds while averaging less damage than you have hit points. The problem is that one player enjoying a tank does not make the tank good, competitive, or well balanced. This is why good players continue to complain about balance at tier 8, because for those of us that actually like to do well at the game tier 8 meds are a disaster (or a challenge, depending on how you see it)

 

Please note I'm not trying to shame you, just explaining why no one is really listening when you say tier 8 tech tree meds are fine. In general the class at that tier is lacking the firepower and mobility advantages that mediums at other tiers have compared with the heavies. No reason to run a Pershing when the sheriff exists. No reason to run a centurion when the AX exists. When heavies have better dpm than meds and also have punchier guns, better armor, 400 more hit points, and 30-40 km/h speeds something needs to change.

[Shaymin_Loves_You]

THERebrth, on 31 August 2021 - 05:12 PM, said:

I am in miseryyy there aint nobody who can comfort me, oh yea. why wont you answer me, the silence is slowly killing me oh yea, pershing you really got me bad, you really got me baddd, Now I'm never gonna get you back, I'm never gonna get you back yea.

 

 

Why would you play that tank. The fatton is probably the worst t10 medium anyways. so its not even worth the grind

[Shaymin_Loves_You]

Sonny_Jim_Bojangles, on 02 September 2021 - 09:24 AM, said:

Enjoy does not equal do well in. I'm glad you can enjoy tier 8 meds while averaging less damage than you have hit points. The problem is that one player enjoying a tank does not make the tank good, competitive, or well balanced. This is why good players continue to complain about balance at tier 8, because for those of us that actually like to do well at the game tier 8 meds are a disaster (or a challenge, depending on how you see it)

 

Please note I'm not trying to shame you, just explaining why no one is really listening when you say tier 8 tech tree meds are fine. In general the class at that tier is lacking the firepower and mobility advantages that mediums at other tiers have compared with the heavies. No reason to run a Pershing when the sheriff exists. No reason to run a centurion when the AX exists. When heavies have better dpm than meds and also have punchier guns, better armor, 400 more hit points, and 30-40 km/h speeds something needs to change.

The lorraine is the same as the souma sm and amx 30 100. All it lacks its the hull armour, but it does everything better. So does that make the tank op? No its an okay tank, they all are.

[Gavidoc01]

Droodles_Little_Noodle, on 02 September 2021 - 01:21 PM, said:

Why would you play that tank. The fatton is probably the worst t10 medium anyways. so its not even worth the grind

 

Doesn't appear someone has played it in 8.2

[whatzup22]

KommandantSEEN_2014, on 02 September 2021 - 11:51 PM, said:

u forgor :skull: the raac 

yus

i forgor

 

[THERebrth]

Gavidoc01, on 02 September 2021 - 12:23 PM, said:

 

Doesn't appear someone has played it in 8.2

ayup

[Messi_Finito]

Droodles_Little_Noodle, on 03 September 2021 - 02:23 AM, said:

The lorraine is the same as the souma sm and amx 30 100. All it lacks its the hull armour, but it does everything better. So does that make the tank op? No its an okay tank, they all are.

huh?