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Rock12_destroyer #1 Posted 14 September 2021 - 07:35 PM

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11 pens in my fv201 and less then 800 damage in a game today.

This gun is pathetic!



Droodles_Little_Noodle #2 Posted 14 September 2021 - 07:39 PM

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The guns is probably the best gun at t7. (excluding anni and smasher.) It has a high rof, and a good aim time. If you are struggeling with a gun that is that broke then move down a few tiers.

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Rock12_destroyer #3 Posted 14 September 2021 - 07:40 PM

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11 pens with that little damage?

Not sure how it is my fault.



Droodles_Little_Noodle #4 Posted 14 September 2021 - 07:43 PM

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View PostRock12_destroyer, on 14 September 2021 - 12:40 PM, said:

11 pens with that little damage?

Not sure how it is my fault.

It means you miss more shots then you aim. And it also means that you shouldn't even be playing the tank


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Rock12_destroyer #5 Posted 14 September 2021 - 07:50 PM

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Ok.

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Droodles_Little_Noodle #6 Posted 14 September 2021 - 07:54 PM

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Don't take it as me being rude. I'm just stating that if you don't play well in the tank then you should play ones you're good at.

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Rock12_destroyer #7 Posted 14 September 2021 - 07:55 PM

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What you said doesn't make sense though. A penetration is not a miss.

Vantablack12 #8 Posted 14 September 2021 - 07:56 PM

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The AP shell has an average damage of 160. If you penned 11 times you should have somewhere around 1760 damage.

APCR has an average damage of 135; 11 penned shots equate to around 1485 damage.

Both of those numbers assume you penned AND did the full average damage with every shot.

If some of your shots penned, but didn't do any damage, then that explains why you only got 800 damage. The enemy's tracks may have sucked up some of your shots.

 

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Droodles_Little_Noodle #9 Posted 14 September 2021 - 08:02 PM

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View PostRock12_destroyer, on 14 September 2021 - 12:50 PM, said:

Ok.

Thanks.

Oh sorry. The damage was most likely absorbed by tracks or other surfaces.


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Rock12_destroyer #10 Posted 14 September 2021 - 08:08 PM

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Helpful information.

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Vantablack12 #11 Posted 14 September 2021 - 08:11 PM

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The FV201 is a pain to play when you get into a tier 8 match, but when you face same tier or below it can be quite formidable.

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View PostRock12_destroyer, on 14 September 2021 - 01:40 PM, said:

11 pens with that little damage?

Not sure how it is my fault.

 

It's not. Any type of module damage counts as damage so it could be anything from kill shots on low HP tanks, to module damage that didn't affect HP, etc. 


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Rock12_destroyer #13 Posted 14 September 2021 - 08:23 PM

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I was not up tiered, but I WAS trying to perma-track a tank.

Still, 11 penetrations should be more damage for a tier 7 heavy. I penned, did zero damage and they pen me in return with damage. Frustrating.



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View PostRock12_destroyer, on 14 September 2021 - 08:23 PM, said:

I was not up tiered, but I WAS trying to perma-track a tank.

Still, 11 penetrations should be more damage for a tier 7 heavy. I penned, did zero damage and they pen me in return with damage. Frustrating.


So you were purposely aiming and hitting the other tanks tracks for 11 rounds and you’re wondering why you only scored 800 damage?


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Rock12_destroyer #15 Posted 14 September 2021 - 08:43 PM

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I was aiming at the track wheel. Isn't it possible to break the track AND do damage? Sure seems like it happens to me all the time. I was just following the advice of better players.

Vantablack12 #16 Posted 14 September 2021 - 10:03 PM

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View PostRock12_destroyer, on 14 September 2021 - 12:43 PM, said:

I was aiming at the track wheel. Isn't it possible to break the track AND do damage? Sure seems like it happens to me all the time. I was just following the advice of better players.

Yes it is possible, but I believe it has to pen both the sprocket and the armor. 


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Kiwi_Kebab #17 Posted 14 September 2021 - 10:45 PM

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The tracks have thickness. Sometimes you can get through the tracks, but not the armor behind. Other times, you hit the tracks, but miss the tank chassis entirety (happens if you hit too low).

When trying to perma-track an opponent, also try to find an angle to deal damage. You may have to move around a bit. The FV201 has a very fast gun, so it allows more opportunities to hit targets.

IMO, however, I rarely find it necessary to attempt perma-tracking as a deliberate method. Figuring out how to track + damage targets is a good skill to acquire, but always prioritize damage over tracking, in general. There are specific contexts where I need to track someone, but usually I just aim for the easy shots.
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_Crusader6_ #18 Posted 15 September 2021 - 01:23 AM

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I strongly recommend downloading the Armor Inspector app, or using a computer to go to  https://wotinspector.com/en/

    Select Armor Inspector and Blitz. 
 

That will allow you to see armor profiles and educate you on where can hit, pen and cause damage. 
 

You can also upload your replays to WoT Inspector and watch where you hit  and why certain things happened. 


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I will.
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View Post_Crusader6_, on 14 September 2021 - 08:23 PM, said:

I strongly recommend downloading the Armor Inspector app, or using a computer to go to  https://wotinspector.com/en/

    Select Armor Inspector and Blitz. 
 

That will allow you to see armor profiles and educate you on where can hit, pen and cause damage. 
 

You can also upload your replays to WoT Inspector and watch where you hit  and why certain things happened. 

 

Aren't these features that you have to pay for? $$$$

 

I'm still confused about map inspector and uploading game files to it. I never see the actual battle, as if you were watching a video, all I see are lines chasing each other.


 

 

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