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Player_0000000007 #1 Posted 24 November 2021 - 06:34 PM

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It's a great hack if you haven't switched over yet. Basis is simple: autoloading tanks can't fit the rammer, so equipment choices are instead CS or vents...

 

Now, under the old equipment system, vents were a quick go-to owing to the fact they boosted crew efficiency by 5%. Problem is, crew training algorithm works in such a way that actual tank specs get boosted by only half that amount (so ~ 2.5% net gain).

 

The small boost is still some improvement, but at this point, you really have to consider the cost/benefit analysis:

 

CS will only increase pen of regular rounds by 5%, which also seems like a small amount...until you start looking at Tier 8 and above. In the case of an Emil, it brings the pen from Tier 8 heavy levels to near Tier 10 med levels. And with tanks like the K-91 or AMX 50B, you've virtually got TD levels of pen. If your tank can load HEAT rounds, improvement to that is even more significant.

 

And the quick math comes down to this... Chance it on a slightly quicker reload or a small shrinkage of the bloom circle? Or take the higher odds of pen as not to waste the reload? Switching to CS on these autoloaders is definitely my rule of thumb.


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__Frostbite #2 Posted 24 November 2021 - 07:02 PM

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That's kind of the general consensus, that vents are stupid on Tier 8-10 tanks. But honestly, I run vents because I'm a chad and pen is overrated. :playing:

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9696Mattman #3 Posted 24 November 2021 - 08:25 PM

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I miss stacking vents and gun rammer on the Jagdtiger 8.8

JefeMac #4 Posted 24 November 2021 - 08:28 PM

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View Post__Frostbite, on 24 November 2021 - 07:02 PM, said:

That's kind of the general consensus, that vents are stupid on Tier 8-10 tanks. But honestly, I run vents because I'm a chad and pen is overrated. :playing:

Vents on reloaders/auto reloaders improve multiple areas of performance in a given tank. 



 

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View PostJefeMac, on 24 November 2021 - 08:28 PM, said:

Vents on reloaders/auto reloaders improve multiple areas of performance in a given tank. 

by barely any amount. Pretty much useless...


 

 

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JefeMac #6 Posted 24 November 2021 - 10:44 PM

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View PostFrogWithATopHat, on 24 November 2021 - 10:04 PM, said:

by barely any amount. Pretty much useless...

Hardly. By improving so many, multiple performance areas, it does help.



 

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Player_0000000007 #7 Posted 24 November 2021 - 10:58 PM

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View PostJefeMac, on 24 November 2021 - 04:44 PM, said:

Hardly. By improving so many, multiple performance areas, it does help.


And I'm not denying the fact that vents do provide improvement for the tank performance...but in most cases, that extra 10-12 mm of pen helps out a bit more.


Anni is more overpowered than missiles were...will it get removed, too?

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you gotta understand - if my crew is eating all those combat rations, they're gonna need the extra ventilation. 

 

 


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View PostTengenToppaPotatoLagann, on 24 November 2021 - 05:52 PM, said:

you gotta understand - if my crew is eating all those combat rations, they're gonna need the extra ventilation. 


I disagree...nothing says morale like smelling one's own success.


Anni is more overpowered than missiles were...will it get removed, too?

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View PostPlayer_0000000007, on 24 November 2021 - 05:58 PM, said:


And I'm not denying the fact that vents do provide improvement for the tank performance...but in most cases, that extra 10-12 mm of pen helps out a bit more.


I’d argue it depends on the tank and it’s base pen. 
    HEAT a Prammo and I’m running CS on an autoloader/autoreloader heavy.  
 For meds and non HEAT using heavys and TD’s - I’ll pick that I am comfortable with, more and more often it’s vents. 


 



 


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I run vents because I'm stuck in 2016.

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View PostPlayer_0000000007, on 24 November 2021 - 10:58 PM, said:


And I'm not denying the fact that vents do provide improvement for the tank performance...but in most cases, that extra 10-12 mm of pen helps out a bit more.

More than added view range, quicker reload, better dispersion, traverse, etc. Just too many areas it affects not to utilize it for me. 



 

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I go by feeling. AMX 50B, vents for sure. Fv4005 calibrated shell. For me there’s two schools of thought, try and balance weakness’s or emphasize strengths.
With the AMX I try and emphasize it’s mobility, with the FV it’s all about that gun.

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View Post_Crusader6_, on 25 November 2021 - 08:07 AM, said:


I’d argue it depends on the tank and it’s base pen. 
    HEAT a Prammo and I’m running CS on an autoloader/autoreloader heavy.  
 For meds and non HEAT using heavys and TD’s - I’ll pick that I am comfortable with, more and more often it’s vents. 

This is my feeling as well, in general. If Ho-Ri had HEAT, I'd run CS for the overkill. 

 

I run vents on the B-C 25t AP, but would probably go for CS on the tier X Batchat. The former gets APCR while the latter gets HEAT.


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Of course there is what is considered "Baseline settings" for running CS for this, or vents for that. But it is just a general rule. I run CS on most of my tanks, especially the Auto loaders. My playstyle, and the way I snapshoot on the move alot, the extra pen helps. One tank that is an exception for me is the Helsing. I tried CS early on, as the pen is a weakness. But I found after many games, I do better with Vents. The gun can be pretty troll and iffy when it comes to landing both shots, and the vents seem to help with this. It was against what I usually do, as I usually would run CS on a tank like this with weak pen. I have ran vents for a long time with the Helsing now, and using it as a med/assault gun I have had great success with it. My point is....beyond the baseline settings, and heat, or apcr, it comes down to your playstyle. There is a general best set up, but some players play an E100 differently and will benefit running one equipment more than the other, depending on his playstyle. 




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