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The_Privy_Privateer #1 Posted 18 September 2022 - 09:52 AM

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Hello fellow tankers, friend and foe 

 

I am trying to make use of those 50% off research certificates before it expires and I'm going through the turreted British tds, I am up to the Charioteer.

 

I have had no luck in tiers 8 at all, you can go check on Blitzstars, my WR has plummeted and I'm not sure if the game is punishing me for free xping through the Firefly, I ground througg the Challenger with x5 certificates and unlocked the Charioteers top gun with a few x5 lucky wins but since then I've had barely any wins and can't make use of the x5 certificates to get to the Conway in time before my certificate expires.

 

I am almost always on the team that has no idea how to use their tanks or where to go in those more advanced maps like Dynastys Pearl and Mayan Ruins just like me, we get smashed 0 or 1 to 7 and the only few games that I have won have been proper struggles where its 1 for 1 then 3 for 3 then 5 for 5 and the game is tight.

 

Now I'm on a huge losing streak like I've never seen before, my periodic WR is 20% over the last 10 or 14 games all in the Charioteer. What do?

 



acrisis #2 Posted 18 September 2022 - 12:17 PM

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With stuff like this, I say take a break. Stop grinding the line, especially if it is a tank type that you are not familiar with. Try to catch up on some videos as to how to play the tank best. Then try again in a week or two.  Grab a platoon mate to hopefully coordinate through a battle. 

 

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Meat_Locker #3 Posted 18 September 2022 - 12:32 PM

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You are describing my last 12 months of Blitz although I don't pay attention to certificates and that stuff.

 

At the end of the day, this is pretty simple:

 

WG ruined the low tiers and made them dull and lackluster. People bore of them quickly.

This drives newbies to seek excitement in the game. Where could that be?

Sell them tons of tanks in tier 8 and make it a magnet for unskilled players. Ooh, shiny!

Make it easier than ever to ascend tiers w/o acquiring the needed knowledge to be an asset to a team.

Tier 7 is nearly as bad and tier 6 is fast becoming that way.

 

It's disgraceful, disrespectful, and dismissive of the existing player base that actually studied the game.

 

DO NOT expect foreseeable or reasonable changes. Changes come as surprises as the NA server player base is not the primary driver of decisions. They used to publish tank performance data (recall those Excel sheets from Ribble?) but those stopped coming months ago. 

 

Play the game for what it is and the experience that it provides. Don't worry about certificates and acquiring more and more tanks. Learn a handful, per tier, in which you perform well and as an asset to your team. 

 

It really is about modifying your own behavior and expectations and not the behavior of the uncaring masters that govern this property nor the knuckledragging and impossibly immature core player base that they've cultivated. 

 

My 30 day WR was consistently above 61% and crossing 62% about one year ago. I play at hours that are very early in the USA and I think that all of the utter morons are on at that time. Time of day has much to do with team composition.


Edited by Meat_Locker, 20 September 2022 - 08:22 AM.


   

 

 

 


Palepatriot #4 Posted 18 September 2022 - 02:12 PM

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Hi Privy,

 

Very sound and sage advice from both Meat_Locker and Acrises. Be careful not to start feeling like this game is a job. Just glancing at your stats (they are solid for the tiers you’ve played) you only have 26 battles in the challenger. Every tier and every tank are unique and bring different challenges, even in the same tank line. I think keeping with fundamentals as a TD player as you get to know the Challenger will be your best bet for increasing your winrate with this tank. Most will agree you don’t start to get a handle on a tank until you hit 100 battles in it. Stick with it but keep it fun and mix up tanks after losing 3 straight. :izmena:



_Crusader6_ #5 Posted 18 September 2022 - 03:11 PM

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Keep in mind, you are a new player. 
   Your advancing out of the new player queue, and getting crushed by players who have non bot fighting experience.  
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Meat_Locker #6 Posted 18 September 2022 - 05:00 PM

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View Post_Crusader6_, on 18 September 2022 - 05:11 PM, said:

Keep in mind, you are a new player. 
   Your advancing out of the new player queue, and getting crushed by players who have non bot fighting experience.  

 

 

The player base is very often worse than bots. Utter morons abound. I get 5 boat anchors (deeply losing WRs) more often than not. 



   

 

 

 


Handsome_Squidward_ #7 Posted 18 September 2022 - 06:49 PM

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View PostPalepatriot, on 18 September 2022 - 06:12 AM, said:

Be careful not to start feeling like this game is a job. 

This is definitely how it feels for me right now. Considering a break for sure. 


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maobos #8 Posted 18 September 2022 - 10:09 PM

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yea quite a few potatoes after I came back from a break ngl

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_Crusader6_ #9 Posted 19 September 2022 - 01:33 PM

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View PostMeat_Locker, on 18 September 2022 - 12:00 PM, said:

 

 

The player base is very often worse than bots. Utter morons abound. I get 5 boat anchors (deeply losing WRs) more often than not. 


So one needs to carry heavily to get wins…

  I had a 5,785 3 kill loss last night, with 3.8k blocked in the 50t, given I spent most of the game fighting 4 tanks, I was shocked when I was getting shot in the rear.  The next highest dmg on my team was 1,123 — in tier X, and had 4 zero damage spawn sitters.  

TBH I had a few potato games myself, but it is frustrating seeing players who average 700 damage in tier X playing that tier.  

 


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Chiefmac #10 Posted 19 September 2022 - 04:42 PM

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View Post_Crusader6_, on 19 September 2022 - 06:33 AM, said:


So one needs to carry heavily to get wins…

  I had a 5,785 3 kill loss last night, with 3.8k blocked in the 50t, given I spent most of the game fighting 4 tanks, I was shocked when I was getting shot in the rear.  The next highest dmg on my team was 1,123 — in tier X, and had 4 zero damage spawn sitters.  

TBH I had a few potato games myself, but it is frustrating seeing players who average 700 damage in tier X playing that tier.  

 

Please describe what you see as a “potato game” for you? Only 3k in dmg? :bush:lol


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_Crusader6_ #11 Posted 19 September 2022 - 08:25 PM

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View PostChiefmac, on 19 September 2022 - 11:42 AM, said:

Please describe what you see as a “potato game” for you? Only 3k in dmg? :bush:lol


I had 3 zero damage games yesterday. 
    Crushingly embarrassed.  
 

 


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Gavidoc01 #12 Posted 19 September 2022 - 08:51 PM

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View Post_Crusader6_, on 19 September 2022 - 03:25 PM, said:


I had 3 zero damage games yesterday. 
    Crushingly embarrassed.  
 

 


Not as bad as in a test tank...oooooffffff.


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View Post_Crusader6_, on 19 September 2022 - 01:25 PM, said:


I had 3 zero damage games yesterday. 
    Crushingly embarrassed.  
 

 

Whoa, seriously Cru? Yikes. 


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MarBearCat #14 Posted 19 September 2022 - 10:29 PM

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I'm 4-2 so far in Ratings Calibration, all with Chi-se, and except for my first battle, a 3175 damage, 2 kill loss

I'm really not doing the Chi-Se proud :(

 

Sorry if any of you are with me on a team in Ratings.

 

So far I'm averaging 1745 damage and 1 kill per game avg.

 

I've died in 4 of the 6 battles. Picked up four 3rd Class Masteries

 

:(


Edited by MarBearCat, 19 September 2022 - 10:30 PM.

 

 

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LazerDad #15 Posted 19 September 2022 - 11:54 PM

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View Post_Crusader6_, on 19 September 2022 - 03:25 PM, said:


I had 3 zero damage games yesterday. 
    Crushingly embarrassed.  
 

 

That's like the 69th sign of the Apocalypse!!!



MarBearCat #16 Posted 20 September 2022 - 10:59 PM

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View PostMarBearCat, on 19 September 2022 - 05:29 PM, said:

I'm 4-2 so far in Ratings Calibration, all with Chi-se, and except for my first battle, a 3175 damage, 2 kill loss

I'm really not doing the Chi-Se proud :(

 

Sorry if any of you are with me on a team in Ratings.

 

So far I'm averaging 1745 damage and 1 kill per game avg.

 

I've died in 4 of the 6 battles. Picked up four 3rd Class Masteries

 

:(

 

I finished calibration with 7 wins out of 10 but was carried in last 2 battles

doing less than 700 damage in both.

 

I couldn't pen much with Chi-Se and got penned by everyone. 

Story of my Blitz life :(

 

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I went 34% in the jagd88 while averaging 3k damage one day... sometimes you just get [edited]teams

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View PostMarBearCat, on 19 September 2022 - 10:29 PM, said:

I'm 4-2 so far in Ratings Calibration, all with Chi-se, and except for my first battle, a 3175 damage, 2 kill loss

I'm really not doing the Chi-Se proud :(

 

Sorry if any of you are with me on a team in Ratings.

 

So far I'm averaging 1745 damage and 1 kill per game avg.

 

I've died in 4 of the 6 battles. Picked up four 3rd Class Masteries

 

:(

I havent touched ratings since the orders came for them. Even then i couldnt pull of more than one win in any tank i played (mostly the WZ-111-1G-FT). I even tried using my celestial but the teams couldnt cut it. avg dmg was about 2-3k per game in most of my tanks and yet all the other teammates were just utterly stupid and/or braindead. I couldnt complete the orders (not even the 1st one) thanks to this.


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View PostLazerDad, on 19 September 2022 - 06:54 PM, said:

That's like the 69th sign of the Apocalypse!!!

 

What's the 46th?


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Grinding Russian/Chinese tanks because I need all of the copium right now. 

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