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Androyce #1 Posted 08 February 2015 - 08:41 PM

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Thanks to wotbstars.com, we now have access to accumulated tank data for thousands of players. I thought it might be interesting to see what the best and worst tanks in the game are by win rate. Data comes from here:

http://wotbstars.com/tanks.php?geo=NA

 

Top Ten Best Non-Premium Tanks by Win Rate

  1. KV-3 - 60.56%
  2. T18 - 58.85%
  3. T-150 - 58.77%
  4. KV-4 - 57.68%
  5. Matilda - 57.40%
  6. Cruiser Mk. III - 57.32%
  7. KV-1 - 57.14%
  8. T-43 - 57.14%
  9. SU-100 - 57.05%
  10. T-34-85 - 56.91%

 

Top Five Best Premium Tanks by Win Rate

  1. Pz.Kpfw. S35 739 (f) - 66.86%
  2. Pz.Kpfw. B2 740 (f) - 61.70%
  3. Churchill III - 61.47%
  4. T-34-85 Victory - 61.43%
  5. T-127 - 60.08%

(Omitted Panzer IIJ and 38H due to very small samples)

 

Top Ten Worst Non-Premium Tanks by Win Rate

  1. Jagdpanther - 43.90%
  2. Jagdpanzer IV - 44.09%
  3. Panther II - 45.14%
  4. Panther I - 45.78%
  5. VK 30.01 (P) - 46.17%
  6. Centurion Mk. I - 46.42%
  7. M26 Pershing - 46.48%
  8. VK 30.02 (M) - 46.65%
  9. StuG III Ausf. G - 46.79%
  10. A-20 - 46.92%

 

Top Five Worst Premium Tanks by Win Rate

  1. Dicker Max - 42.36%
  2. Löwe - 42.95%
  3. 8,8 cm Pak 43 Jagdtiger - 44.46%
  4. Panther/M10 - 45.12%
  5. T26E4 Super Pershing - 45.52%

 

All Tier X Tanks by Win Rate

  1. FV215b - 54.11% - AvgDmg 2249
  2. T110E3 - 53.42% - AvgDmg 2251
  3. Leopard 1 - 52.67% - AvgDmg 2117 (Small Sample)
  4. IS-4 - 51.78% - AvgDmg 2052
  5. Maus - 51.57% - AvgDmg 1949
  6. T110E4 - 51.51% - AvgDmg 2211
  7. FV4202 - 50.67% - AvgDmg 2006
  8. Jagdpanzer E 100 - 50.50% AvgDmg 2225
  9. Object 268 - 50.49% - AvgDmg 2201
  10. T110E5 - 50.34% - AvgDmg 1983
  11. IS-7 - 50.17% - AvgDmg 1994
  12. E 50 Ausf. M - 50.03% - 1983
  13. E 100 - 49.92% - AvgDmg 2060
  14. T-62A - 48.90% - AvgDmg 1847
  15. M48A1 Patton - 47.01% - AvgDmg 1775

 

Updated for stats as of 6/18/15. Original post/data can be viewed here: 

http://forum.wotblitz.com/index.php?/topic/12959-best-and-worst-tanks-in-the-game-by-win-rate/page__st__80__pid__352923#entry352923



Serapth #2 Posted 08 February 2015 - 08:54 PM

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Premiums are getting unfairly skewed.  The Lowe for example is nothing special, but zero day players jumping into premiums are skewing the stats.

 

Yes the Panthers are absolute garbage.  The VK P is a bit shocking.  I remember it as incredibly average.



Serapth #3 Posted 08 February 2015 - 08:55 PM

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Oh yeah... And Russian Bias.

Kangthekid #4 Posted 08 February 2015 - 08:55 PM

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Oh med tier russian heavies,dont u love them 

Viper8757NC #5 Posted 08 February 2015 - 08:58 PM

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Not surprised to see all the German tanks in the poor win rate categories.  Makes me feel a little better about my overall WR.


Androyce #6 Posted 08 February 2015 - 08:58 PM

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View PostSerapth, on 08 February 2015 - 03:54 PM, said:

Premiums are getting unfairly skewed.  The Lowe for example is nothing special, but zero day players jumping into premiums are skewing the stats.

 

I considered leaving premiums off, but ended up leaving them in, and really I think they fit fine where they are. The Löwe is trash. You don't need to look at these player stats. Just look at the tanks stats. It's the worst tier VIII heavy by far. As for the top, the T-127 Ian's B2 are beastly little seal clubbers, while the IS-6 and KV-5 are potent tanks that get preferential MM to help their win rates. So while I agree a separate list for premiums and non-premiums would be interesting, I think this combined list is fine for an initial discussion.



_Tenshi #7 Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:01 PM

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The Germans is actually great tanks. They might seem underpowered, judged by their winrate, but they're actually just as powerful as their counterparts. Its just that the Germans require more intense mind-power to operate. You can't just YOLO and hope to survive in them. Many people just can't understand to to play the Germans. I admit, I did terrible on the Germans, but its because they're not very user friendly, especially for those who are new to the game. I'm not surprised why Dicker Max and Löwe is the top two of the worst, they're among some of the first premium tanks that are added to the game, and we see many noobie Löwe drivers in the early days. 

 

Buffs, maybe, just to make it easier for those who hasn't learned to learn. 


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_XM551 #8 Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:01 PM

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WOW  :ohmy:, seems like a lot of people don't know how to use the tanks... :P

 

 


_Tenshi #9 Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:03 PM

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View PostTheKraken23, on 08 February 2015 - 04:01 PM, said:

WOW  :ohmy:, seems like a lot of people don't know how to use the tanks... :P

Exactly, we're going to need to make a training school for them. Really, the past few months are just plain suffering.


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The panther/m10 looks horrible down there. Come on people it's a 55-60% win tank. And to those who don't think there's a Russian bias... Just look

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View PostAndroyce, on 08 February 2015 - 03:41 PM, said:

Thanks to wotbstars.com, we now have access to accumulated tank data for thousands of players. I thought it might be interesting to see what the best and worst tanks in the game are by win rate. Data comes from here:

http://wotbstars.com/tanks.php?geo=NA

 

Top Ten Best Non-Premium Tanks by Win Rate

  1. KV-3 - 61.87%
  2. KV-4 - 58.56%
  3. T-150 - 57.83%
  4. KV-1 - 56.96%
  5. IS - 56.42%
  6. SU-100 - 56.39%
  7. T-43 - 56.36%
  8. SU-152 - 56.25%
  9. T-34-85 - 55.95%
  10. T29 - 55.43%

 

Top Five Best Premium Tanks by Win Rate

  1. T-127 - 60.82%
  2. SU-100Y - 59.28%
  3. Pz.Kpfw. B2 740 (f) - 58.71%
  4. IS-6 - 58.67%
  5. KV-5 - 56.63%

 

Top Ten Worst Non-Premium Tanks by Win Rate

  1. Jagdpanzer IV - 43.32%
  2. Jagdpanther - 43.62%
  3. Panther II - 44.61%
  4. Panther I - 45.19%
  5. VK 30.01 (P) - 45.65%
  6. M26 Pershing - 45.71%
  7. M46 Patton - 46.05%
  8. StuG III Ausf. G - 46.06%
  9. VK 30.02 (M) - 46.08%
  10. T20 - 46.21%

 

Top Ten Worst Premium Tanks by Win Rate

  1. Dicker Max - 41.28%
  2. Löwe - 41.34%
  3. Panther/M10 - 44.79%
  4. T26E4 Super Pershing - 44.92%
  5. T-25 - 46.66%

 

Note: I omitted several tanks from the best ten list due to rarity/newness (such as the PzIIJ, new British heavies and the S35).

 

So what do you guys think? Any surprises? I was a bit surprised so many Russian heavies were on the top list but no IS-3. The worst list was just about what I expected. All the tanks with Panther in the name made it. I know there are players that will stand by and defend these tanks until the end of time, but that doesn't make them good tanks. It just means some good players have figured out how to use these bad tanks effectively. The Jagdpanther is a bit of an anomaly to me. Everyone says it's just like the T25 AT and in terms of stats it looks similar, but I just couldn't win with the Jagdpanther. It was one of my worst tanks, while I did okay in the T25 AT despite my damage numbers being better in the JP. Of course I think no one will be surprised to see the DM and Löwe top the list of worst tanks. Maybe time for a buff WG?

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Androyce #12 Posted 08 February 2015 - 09:13 PM

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I decided to split premium and non-premium after all, so I edited the post to top ten best/worst non-premium and top five best/worst premium.


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View Postchowpow531, on 08 February 2015 - 04:13 PM, said:

I fixed at negrep for you. You don't deserve that negrep.

I gave him one as well, I don't know what trans problem was


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If the Matilda is so OP and "broken" like certain people claim, then how come that doesn't make an appearance on any of those lists? Surely, the average winrate in that should be at least 70% if it were as OP as certain people claim.

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View Postoriginalmadkilla, on 08 February 2015 - 04:17 PM, said:

If the Matilda is so OP and "broken" like certain people claim, then how come that doesn't make an appearance on any of those lists? Surely, the average winrate in that should bet at least 70% if it were as OP as certain people claim.

Read the whole post. He didn't include the Brit heavy line. And the Matilda is op


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Huh reason the T-127 is so high is that it will probably never be available again

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View Postoriginalmadkilla, on 08 February 2015 - 04:17 PM, said:

If the Matilda is so OP and "broken" like certain people claim, then how come that doesn't make an appearance on any of those lists? Surely, the average winrate in that should bet at least 70% if it were as OP as certain people claim.

 

It would have made the list. I left anything from the new Brit heavy line out as you can see in the note in the OP. The Matilda currently falls right between the SU-152 and the T-34-85.


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View Postthat_f_in_guy, on 08 February 2015 - 09:18 PM, said:

Read the whole post. He didn't include the Brit heavy line. And the Matilda is op

 

I see that now.

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Everything seems in order, pubs do good in russian tanks and bad in germans.

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By the way, I urge everybody to do their part and add to the stats. Most of the higher tier tanks only have hundreds of players, while the lower tier tanks have thousands of players, so I believe that more player stats are still needed. The more player stats, the more accurate these sorts of lists will become.




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