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_TheGypsyDog #1 Posted 25 February 2015 - 08:51 AM

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"Reads how everyone is so exited for the hellcat" nerfs the **** out of it.

really 4.8 rounds a minute. And nerfed top speed, make it worse than on pc why dont yah.


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_TheGypsyDog #2 Posted 25 February 2015 - 08:52 AM

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And "balences" it by adding a whole mm of armour.

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View PostTheGypsyDog, on 25 February 2015 - 08:51 AM, said:

"Reads how everyone is so exited for the hellcat" nerfs the **** out of it.

really 4.8 rounds a minute. And nerfed top speed, make it worse than on pc why dont yah.

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Yeah, with reduced alpha it should get MORE RoF, not nerfed to uselessness. It was  the first time I played it, and I still liked it with the 90mm gun. I'd just like to imagine how broken it is with 7.06+ RoF.
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_TheGypsyDog #5 Posted 25 February 2015 - 10:50 AM

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Ok for some reason im doing better brawling in this tank than sniping, ok wargaming your just confusing us.

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Wait... The top speed? But the whole point of the thing is to fly around the map!

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You guys are comparing a Hellcat that can move around a map that is a 17x17 to a Blitz map that is 9 x 9 ....... why would you be allowed to have the same dominating speed strong gun and alpha damage that would be too OP. ....I mean I can understand that you want the tank that you love and desire but..... They added the tank so you can love it for being the Hell cat dont play blitz hoping to have the same tank as on the PC. for instance. I am about 20K away from the Obj 704 and I am not in the mind set that I will be one shotting 3-5 tier 7-8 tanks I am in the mind set I will have a strong gun a great deal of health and a good traverse speed. You have to adapt to the the way that these maps are smaller and the tanks are made in the way that you can play them on a smaller scale with less people.... If they bumped that players per map to 15 and made it a 12x12 then I could see the hell cat getting the aplha damage and top speed you speak of. Just saying

 

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GunShycc #8 Posted 04 March 2015 - 02:13 AM

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Sigh, but why not make the tanks "play" the way they really worked, regardless of map size or game format.

 

I mean, why bother putting any tank on the field, much so one with plenty of real historical combat data to show what it could and could not do, if it is going to be into made a Fantasy tank in the end?


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Warlord49 #9 Posted 04 March 2015 - 04:49 PM

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By that reasoning then why have a Tiger II  fight in the same battle as an Obj 268? It's all fantasy combat and a game. If it were to be an historical recreation then it would be vastly different. 

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Ok I did a teir 6 fail toon with my bro glitching the rockfeild map up behind the base on that mountain and if the hellcat who pushed me is reading this thanks but I penned a hellcat front plate at 100 health left and killed him as a not so proud owner of the hellcat please make the armor relevant to the tier so at least a T2 light can't pen make it like 50mm not 13 it's sad when a T2 light can ammo rack a hellcat from full health

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View PostWarlord1949, on 04 March 2015 - 11:49 AM, said:

By that reasoning then why have a Tiger II  fight in the same battle as an Obj 268? It's all fantasy combat and a game. If it were to be an historical recreation then it would be vastly different. 

ITS A GAME. PLAY IT OR NOT

 

Wow, can I take that as your permission to play, let alone think or speak any viewpoint different than yours?

 

I just asked why bother taking a real tank from real history, which had a good or great combat record, and turn it into fantasy, as in out of it's true scope as the tank it was. Might as well go back to playing Mech Warrior if you want no context to real life.


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View Postlonestar5630, on 04 March 2015 - 02:24 PM, said:

Ok I did a teir 6 fail toon with my bro glitching the rockfeild map up behind the base on that mountain and if the hellcat who pushed me is reading this thanks but I penned a hellcat front plate at 100 health left and killed him as a not so proud owner of the hellcat please make the armor relevant to the tier so at least a T2 light can't pen make it like 50mm not 13 it's sad when a T2 light can ammo rack a hellcat from full health

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View PostGunShycc, on 04 March 2015 - 10:12 PM, said:

I just asked why bother taking a real tank from real history, which had a good or great combat record, and turn it into fantasy, as in out of it's true scope as the tank it was.

 

Maus. VK 45.02b. E100. E75. E50. E50M. T110E3. T110E4. T110E5. ST-I. FV-215b. T30.

You realize those tanks never existed outside of paper, right? And I'm not even including the tanks that were made, but only as prototypes or experimentals.

 

The game is loosely based on WWII. At no time did World of Tanks claimed it was historically accurate to any degree.


 

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View PostGunShycc, on 04 March 2015 - 09:12 PM, said:

 

Wow, can I take that as your permission to play, let alone think or speak any viewpoint different than yours?

 

I just asked why bother taking a real tank from real history, which had a good or great combat record, and turn it into fantasy, as in out of it's true scope as the tank it was. Might as well go back to playing Mech Warrior if you want no context to real life.

Unrustle your jimmies, jeeze. WoT:B =\= WoT PC. Get past it, and just play.  For chrissake, most of the tanks in the game were either never mass produced or never existed. 


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View PostKsftwe, on 05 March 2015 - 03:31 AM, said:

 

Maus. VK 45.02b. E100. E75. E50. E50M. T110E3. T110E4. T110E5. ST-I. FV-215b. T30.

You realize those tanks never existed outside of paper, right? And I'm not even including the tanks that were made, but only as prototypes or experimentals.

 

The game is loosely based on WWII. At no time did World of Tanks claimed it was historically accurate to any degree.

 

thank you for making that clear :) I was about to say that this game is good Becuase of imagination I would not want to play a historically accurate ww2 tank game would he very dry and costly lol

 

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View Postlonestar5630, on 04 March 2015 - 08:24 PM, said:

Ok I did a teir 6 fail toon with my bro 

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View PostWarlord1949, on 04 March 2015 - 11:49 AM, said:

By that reasoning then why have a Tiger II  fight in the same battle as an Obj 268? It's all fantasy combat and a game. If it were to be an historical recreation then it would be vastly different. 

ITS A GAME. PLAY IT OR NOT

 

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I am acutely aware of how many "one offs", mock ups, partial prototypes, and just "only on paper, some only in spec of note form" tanks are in this game, and you missed some by the way. I digress.

 

Why should we assume the "fantasy" tanks would have been better in performance and battle, when in real life they didn't even merit making a single metal casting of one piece, or were abandoned when they had actual from the field dats that to pursue them would be a waste of time, and a losing proposition? The Hellcat was a real combat tank, a lot on your list were not. so again I just have to ask, why nerf or piddle around with a real tank in the name of game balance, and then buff and push fantasy tanks instead!?

 

It is also understood that this game isn't just WW2, it goes a few years beyond that, and yes in weird and sometimes major wars and battles long after WW2, a good number of those WW2 tanks from many sides found themselves in real combat in wild combinations, sometimes against each other when they once fought side by side, and then more modern tanks would get mixed in too, but once again, I argue NOT the case with Fantasy tanks. NOBODY went to war with a MAUS, or in a MAUS, for example. 

 

In real war, captured tanks could and were put into combat against their once former owners, so not so out of the question to see such in Blitz, but again, can you say that about the fantasy tanks? Hence, if fantasy is the main focus and the prefered style of gameplay, then why bother with the real tanks and real history at all? How different things would be, if the fantasy tanks were out of the game, and the remaining real tanks were spread out across the tiers, and the Hellcat was treated like a Premium tank.


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