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[Mere_Anarchy]

For me personally, nothing is more satisfying that having a really great game in a tank, and having the shiny gold 'M' show up on the results page.  At the same time, nothing is more frustrating than having an awesome game that I am sure is an Ace game, and only getting a 1st Class Mastery award...  Sometimes this process seems so mysterious.

 

To date the spreadsheet has well over 600 700  1200  1500 3700 7600 9500 10,000 data entries.  The idea behind collecting this data is to give a systematic sense of what the requirements are for achieving the Ace Mastery in any given tank.  Although this data can’t actually help earn an Ace, it hopefully will help to demystify the requirements. 

 

The following links provide access to the spreadsheet containing the data gathered to date.  These update automatically, so as soon as I enter new data it appears.  I have provided two different ways to access this data - the first is an html version of the spreadsheet that has all of the tabs/info, but lacks some of the formatting.  The second is a read-only google sheets version that preserves more of the formatting/options.  It does not require google sign-in to access.  Depending on your device/connection you may find that the first loads more quickly.  They both contain exactly the same info.  There are six different tabs - all tanks sorted by tier, lights, mediums, heavies, and TD's sorted by tier, and a table comparing the overall XP requirements at each tier.  

 

HTML version of the Ace Mastery Spreadsheet

 

Google Sheets version of the Ace Mastery Spreadsheet

 

Look up individual player/tank entries here

 

What do these numbers mean?

 

There are several stats that I have included for each tank.  'N' is simply the number of Aces in the spreadsheet for that particular tank mode.  Ideally each tank will have at least 20 entries.  The Median XP is the middle value - 50% of the Aces recorded are lower than that number, 50% are higher.  Min and Max are self-explanatory.   Keep in mind that the requirements for Aces use a rolling 7-day window, so based on who is playing that tank (and how well) in any given week it may take slightly more or less to earn an Ace.

 

Edited by vanpeenen, 18 August 2016 - 03:36 PM.

[CptCheez]

Basically what he's asking for is screenshots of the Team Results page that shows your dmg, XP, and kills.  If you can include your Assisted Damage from the Efficiency screen along with it, that's always helpful too.

[blindsniper74]

Last week, I earned two Masters in a row, then a third later in the day for the same tank. (T28 Prot).  I thought it was simply the best game of the designated time period (1 week), with a minimum mystery score.  Each time I improved the score of the last.  I'll try to find the screenshots and post.

[pgrass101]

blindsniper74, on 06 March 2015 - 10:44 AM, said:

Last week, I earned two Masters in a row, then a third later in the day for the same tank. (T28 Prot).  I thought it was simply the best game of the designated time period (1 week), with a minimum mystery score.  Each time I improved the score of the last.  I'll try to find the screenshots and post.

 

That's why I like teaming with you

[Mere_Anarchy]

blindsniper74, on 06 March 2015 - 10:44 AM, said:

Last week, I earned two Masters in a row, then a third later in the day for the same tank. (T28 Prot).  I thought it was simply the best game of the designated time period (1 week), with a minimum mystery score.  Each time I improved the score of the last.  I'll try to find the screenshots and post.

 

My understanding is that it is the top 99% of all XP earned in that tank during the previous 7 days.  I've had experiences where I've aced a tank, and then the next day had a higher XP game and only gotten a 1st class... 

 

And - screenshots are greatly appreciated! Only have data for one T28 Prot. so far.

[_Virtus]

Is it possible if stats of each tank is collected?

Some tanks are a lot harder to get mastery than others

I've seen pattons get masteries for 4.5k damage

I have to do 5.5k damage in a t54 to get mastery.

I would be willing to start a thread with some of my aces (I deleted the not so spectacular ones )

If it would help for you to collect data

[blindsniper74]

[Mere_Anarchy]

felipethepato, on 06 March 2015 - 10:50 AM, said:

Is it possible if stats of each tank is collected?

Some tanks are a lot harder to get mastery than others

I've seen pattons get masteries for 4.5k damage

I have to do 5.5k damage in a t54 to get mastery.

I would be willing to start a thread with some of my aces (I deleted the not so spectacular ones )

If it would help for you to collect data

Yes - with enough data we can say something about which tanks are easier to Ace than others.  There are a few tanks that I can currently start to see how easy or hard they are to Ace.  But, it will take 15-20 Aces per tank to be confident about the results.

 

You can definitely post your pics here if you want - that would be awesome.  I can then enter them into the database.  

[_Virtus]

vanpeenen, on 06 March 2015 - 11:53 AM, said:

Yes - with enough data we can say something about which tanks are easier to Ace than others.  There are a few tanks that I can currently start to see how easy or hard they are to Ace.  But, it will take 15-20 Aces per tank to be confident about the results.

 

You can definitely post your pics here if you want - that would be awesome.  I can then enter them into the database.  

 

will do when I get home from work!

[CptCheez]

Also just to help cut down on the amount of scrolling that has to be done in this thread, the initial Victory screen with the golden "M" isn't really necessary.  If you post a screenshot here, we can assume it was for an Ace.  The Team screen is the most important, with the Efficiency screen secondary.

 

Or just post screenshots within a Spoiler.

[blindsniper74]

You can see that the 1st was only 2 kills, then 5 then 4.  So not on kills.  The Exp was not linearly increasing either.  The Damage is the only thing that increased with each Master.  The badges earned also increased towards the last one.   The credits increased each time as well.

 

I think they do a weighted "point system" using the best score of the week.  It will be interesting to see what you find out.

Edited by blindsniper74, 06 March 2015 - 05:00 PM.

[Fherot]

[Fherot]

[CptCheez]

blindsniper74, on 06 March 2015 - 11:58 AM, said:

You can see that the 1st was only 2 kills, then 5 then 4.  So not on kills.  The Exp was not linearly increasing either.  The Damage is the only thing that increased with each Master.  The badges earned also increased towards the last one.   The credits increased each time as well.

 

I think they do a weighted "point system" using the best score of the week.  It will be interesting to see what you find out.

 

Oh it's definitely not based on kills or credits.​  It's 100% based on XP, not counting premium or any daily (2x, 3x, etc.) bonuses.  If you get more XP than 99% of other players that have played that tank in the last 7 days, you get the Golden Arches.  It's all about percentiles.

 

[APaperTiger]

vanpeenen, on 06 March 2015 - 08:36 AM, said:

 We need any and all Aces – not just ones that are exceptional.  

 

Someday I hope to be so good that I have unexceptional Ace mastery badges. As it is, whenever I get one I feel exceptional.

[blindsniper74]

CptCheez, on 06 March 2015 - 05:06 PM, said:

 

Oh it's definitely not based on kills or credits.​  It's 100% based on XP, not counting premium or any daily (2x, 3x, etc.) bonuses.  If you get more XP than 99% of other players that have played that tank in the last 7 days, you get the Golden Arches.  It's all about percentiles.

 

 

Really?  Didn't work that way in my example... XP went 1094 to 1235 to 1127.  I absolutely certain these are in order.  I checked the times and did find this... The first two are 2/27 and the 3rd is on 2/28 (about 24 hrs later).  So they were not all on the same calendar day.  

[LtRaseiniai]

[APaperTiger]

Here are mine. I'm happy to provide screenshots for verification, but it was easier to type these than to upload and copy-paste 20 links from imgur. Plus probably easier for you.

 

Tier I (Medium I)

XP: 683
Kills: 7

Damage: 747

Assist Damage: 59
Spotting: 1
Survived Y/N: Y

 

Tier II (Cruiser Mk III)

XP: 731
Kills: 5

Damage: 932

Assist Damage: 35
Spotting: 3
Survived Y/N: Y

 

XP: 829
Kills: 5

Damage: 1027

Assist Damage: 131
Spotting: 0
Survived Y/N: Y

 

Tier III (Cruiser Mk IV)

XP: 658
Kills: 4

Damage: 806

Assist Damage: 143
Spotting: 4
Survived Y/N: Y

 

XP: 646
Kills: 4

Damage: 522

Assist Damage: 408
Spotting: 5
Survived Y/N: Y

 

Tier IV (Covenanter)

XP: 816
Kills: 5

Damage: 1299

Assist Damage: 74
Spotting: 3
Survived Y/N: Y

[mjm68]

I only have the this pages for these the others are just the first screen.  I'll PM them to you if they will help.  Thank you for doing this extra work.

 

[APaperTiger]

thieldke, on 06 March 2015 - 09:37 AM, said:

 

This one in your DW2 is interesting to me, because it's the first one I've seen in which you did not survive the battle. Is there a deduction for dying, perhaps?