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EdAWACSdenyY #1 Posted 12 March 2015 - 09:35 AM

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Caernarvon: The heavy tank with an identity crisis.

 

Greetings everyone! EdAWACSdenyY here today to bring you a guide on the Caernarvon. This is the tier 8 British heavy tank. Let's put it under the scope shall we laddies?

 

 

Background History: 

 

The chassis was from the A45 Infantry Support Tank, started in 1944 shortly after that of the A41 Centurion. After the war the project was relocated to that of the "Universal Tank" design of the FV 200 series. The 200 series was to have used a common hull for all uses (self-propelled artillery, armoured personnel carrier, three varieties of tank, etc.). One tank type was to be the heavy FV 201 of 55 tonnes, armed with an 83.4 mm gun. ( 20 pounder gun)

 

In 1949 it was decided to bring the armament up to 120 mm. The reason for the heavier armament on the tanks, was to provide an adequate countermeasure against the threat posed by the Soviet Union's IS3 tanks. As this delayed the project, in 1952 the FV 201 hull was combined with a 17 pounder-armed Centurion Mk 2 turret to give the FV 221 Caernarvon Mark I. Twenty-one were built with the Mk III 20 pounder turret as the Caernavon Mk II. The FV 221 may originally have been intended to be the "Main Battle Tank" member of the FV 201 series, but with the success of the A41 Centurion such a vehicle was no longer required. In either event, the Caernarvon was only used for chassis development work serving in troop trials.

The days of the heavy tanks were numbered and eventually all countries pretty much abandoned the concept of a heavy tank in favour of the Main Battle Tank concept which had the balance of good armour, exceptional mobility, and devastating fire-power. The Americans went with the M48 Patton, The Soviets went with the T-54/T-55 series and the British stuck with the Centurion. Eventually the Centurion would be upgunned with the Legendary L7 rifled cannon, rendering a British Heavy tank obsolete.

And that is why the Centurion become famous worldwide, while the Caernavon's only legacy is as a tier 8 tank in an online MMO tank game made by Wargaming.

Now that we have brushed up a bit on the history of this tank, Let's go over it's stats:

 

Hitpoints: Stock: 1500 Elite: 1600

 

Speed Limit: 34.3 km / hour

 

Hull Traverse Speed: 22 degrees per second

 

Turret Traverse Speed: 36 degrees per second

 

Hull armour: 

 

Front: 130 mm

Sides: 51 mm

Rear: 38 mm

 

Turret armour:

 

Stock: 

 

Front: 152 mm

Sides: 95 mm

Rear: 95 mm

 

Elite:

 

Front: 165 mm

Sides: 112 mm

Rear: 112 mm

 

 Top gun: (Cause I doubt anyone will want to use the 17 pdr or 20 pdr Type A barrel) Ordnance Quick-Firing 20 pounder Type B barrel

 

Standard Shell Penetration: 

 

226 mm (AP)

258 mm (APCR)

42 mm (HE) 

 

 Average Damage:

 

190 (AP)

190 (APCR)

250 (HE)

 

Rounds per minute: 9.52

 

Accuracy: 0.32 (at 100 m) 

 

Aim time: 1.9 seconds

 

Top Engine: (Cause I doubt anyone would want to use anything but the top engine if they could help it.) Rolls-Royce Meteor M120

 

Horsepower: 810

 

Now that we have glanced over the general stats of this tank, Let us review its advantages and disadvantages on the battlefield in great detail:

 

Advantages: 

 

Mobility: Unlike the previous "Infantry tanks" such as the Churchill and Black Prince with their abysmal cruising speed, the Caernarvon is actually pretty fast and agile for a heavy tank. In fact it can be considered the fastest of all the Tier 8 heavy tanks. This makes following your team and moving from cover to cover much easier. You can even at times exploit your mobility to carousel around slower enemy tanks.

 

Turret traverse: The turret traverse on this tank is considered quite fast for a heavy tank of this tier. Your turret turns 36 degrees per second. Combining this with your mobility, you can flank and circle very easily and insure for the most part that your gun will lock on before others can bring their guns to bear.

 

The gun: The Ordnance Quick-Firing 20 pounder Type B barrel gun you will use is not a bad gun for its tier. With a decent penetration of 226 mm and a high rate of fire, you will be able to penetrate the frontal armour of all tier 8 tanks and even a few of the tier 9 tanks frontally. Compared to the IS3, the 20 pounder lacks alpha damage. However there is a trade off for high alpha damage: Long reload times. Your superior DPM  combined with a low aim time allows you to dish out more damage over time than most other tanks of your tier accurately and consistently even at range. Any equal or lower tier tank which sits in front of you will regret it as you quickly whittle their health away. The low dispersion values of this gun can also allow you to shoot accurately while on the move as well, something few other tanks can really boast. 

 

Gun depression: With the Centurion turret, the Caernarvon also inherits that excellent 10 degrees of gun depression, which combined with your troll turret armour, allows you to hull down in places other tanks will only dream about.

 

Troll turret armour: The Caernarvon is fitted with the same good ol Centurion turret with that deliciously troll gun mantlet which can bounce quite a bit of shots. However you cannot afford to tank like an American tank due to the glaring weak spots located on your turret front. If you sit there, you give your enemy the chance to aim for those weak-spots.The turret very good for the back and forth fire and retreat strategy you should use when playing this tank.

 

Side skirts: Like most tier 8 and above British tanks, the Caernarvon's side armour is covered completely by tracks and side skirts. This gives the tank effectively 2 layers of spaced armour, allowing it to mitigate most of the damage from High explosive shells and completely neutralizing HEAT shells. People will regret firing HE ammo or HEAT into your side armour unless they aim really carefully.

 

 

Disadvantages:

 

Mediocre armour protection: The hull armour of the Caernarvon is at best acceptable for its tier and downright mediocre if you looked at it from the bad point of view. The frontal armour is decent with the upper plate being 130 mm thick and sloped at a nice steep angle. This and the turret front is where most of your effective armour is located.

 

 

The lower glacis however, is extremely weak being only 76 mm thick and sloped at an angle. That is where everyone will be aiming for if they encounter this tank frontally and not hull down. Tier 7 and even some Tier 6 guns will have no trouble penetrating your lower glacis so be sure to hide it when possible. 

 

Your side and rear armour are a dismal 51 and 38 mm respectively which is utter garbage. The sides and rear are also completely flat with no slope what so ever. Anyone getting the flank of your tank will most definitely go through with no trouble. Your weak side armour prevents you from side scraping as the thin side armour can be easily over-matched by guns of it's own tier and above or below. The rear of your tank has the thinnest armour.

 

 

If people managed to get the back of your tank and they want to utterly wreck your tank, they will fire High-explosive ammunition into the back of your tank setting the engine on fire potentially.  

 

The compound all these problems, the hull of this tank is also very wide which makes it difficult to manuever in tight spaces. 

 

Traverse speed: The hull traverse speed of the Caernarvon isn't stellar being only 24 degrees per second. You will struggle to turn your tank to face the enemy or to counter carousel a flanking medium tank. This combined with your thin side armour can be disastrous.

 

Propensity for Module damage and crew damage: The Caernarvon like all the British tanks above tier 7 are prone to module damage. The lower glacis of the tank is where the ammunition is stored and penetrations through the weak lower plate can very likely damage your ammunition rack, doubling your reload time making your gun less potent or worse detonate your ammunition. The driver and loader also seem to get knocked out more easily from the front and your side armour contains your fuel tanks which can also be damaged and set on fire. The engine if hit can also be easily crippled or ignited as well. 

 

Exposed Turret ring: This may not seem that prominent, but the Caernarvon has a exposed turret ring which with careful aim can be more easily penetrated than on the Centurions. This will both damage your tank and potentially jam your turret ring as well. 

 

Unpleasant stock grind: The stock grind on the Caernarvon is quite unpleasant. If you have not grinded through the British Medium line, than this tank in stock form will hurt a great deal. You will have to grind through the engines, the turret and both 20 pounder guns if you are just starting the British tech tree. This means you will have to utilize the mediocre 17 pounder gun on with the Black Prince turret while using the same engine on the Black Prince. This will make you slow, weakly armoured and impotent with a peashooter. I would recommend you go through the British Medium line first before attempting to grind this tank. This will drastically shorten your stock grind and leave you with less frustrations.

 

 Now that we know what's good and bad about this tank, Let's move on shall we to performance and how to effectively operate this tank in battle.

 

Summary:

 

There once was a tank named Caernarvon, and ever since he was nothing more than a blueprint on the drawing board, crouched in the womb that was the designer's brain. He wanted to be a medium tank like his cousin Centurion. So his designer gave him the same calibre gun as his cousin and the same turret, and for a while Caernarvon was pleased. 

 

But on the battlefield, Caernarvon saw all the heavy tanks such as the IS3 and Tiger 2 trundle along with their strong frontal armour and powerful guns. He wanted to be a heavy tank than. However his designer was unable to fit a huge gun into his turret and so he had to make due with the tiny gun. He did get some hand me down armour from one of his relatives and he was happy once more. He decided to show himself off and impress the other heavy tanks. 

 

But when he met the IS3, the IS3 only sneered at his armour and laughed and laughed away. The Tiger 2 and KV4 also chuckled nastily and would not play with him for he was not a real heavy. Even the T32 could have some note of pride at being better armoured than he was. The medium tanks too also scorned and hissed at the poor Caernarvon and drove circles around him teasing him. 

 

And such the Caernarvon was a sad tank shunned by both heavy and mediums. 

 

The End.

 

Tragic little story isn't it? Hope you enjoyed these brief stories cause I won't be writing many of them.

 

For me this tank always seems to make me draw either the analogy of a man trapped in a woman's body or a person who has trouble with his/her identity. And the Caernarvon is very much like that but without the mental or sexual overtures. This tank seems to be unable to decide if it wants to be a medium like it's cousin the Centurion, or just be a proper heavy tank. 

 

It is a heavy tank by in some respects with the frontal armour and hit-points . But it also seems more like a medium tank with it's generally poor armour all around and the mobility boost not to mention the same gun as the medium tanks of its nation. It is in the same line as the VK.4502A as being terrible front-line heavies. However, the VK 4502A leans more to the heavy tank side of the balance between medium and heavy tanks with it's top gun and the slow hull and turret traverse. The Caernarvon seems to lean more the the medium side of the balance with superior turret traverse, better mobility at the expense of weaker all around armour and firepower. 

 

I feel that this tank is a great tank to practice tactics with which you will utilize for the tier 9 heavy tank the Conqueror. Playing the Caernarvon will allow you to adjust to the transition which occurs in the British Heavy line. With the Caernarvon at tier 8, you transition from the slow infantry tanks with good armour to the "Universal" tanks which have weaker armour but are more mobile and responsive and are equipped with more heavy guns as you go up the tier with better penetration values which was the major flaw of the infantry tanks which had rather mediocre main armament.

 

Personally I would feel that not playing the Caernarvon at all is a big mistake as you to make as it makes it a lot more difficult to transition to the Conqueror which shares the same hull armour has this tank. Knowing the strengths and weakness of this tank will allow you prepare for some of the same weakness of the Conqueror as well. 

 

For many the Caernarvon will seem like a frustrating heavy tank to play due to its low alpha damage, mediocre armour and traverse speed. And yes you are right, it is frustrating compared to the IS3 and the Tiger 2 which both have respectable guns with respectable alpha damage and superior armour. But I believe that if you take your time to get to know this tank better. You can pose quite a bit of a threat to other tanks whom underestimate you. When people underestimate British tanks sometimes, they learn to regret it. 

 

My summation of the Caernarvon is that it is not a bad tank at all. But it isn't exactly that good either. While this tank is capable of leading the front-lines if needed, the Caernarvon is far more comfortable playing the role of a support tank, hanging back and dealing with flankers and others who try to break through the front lines or providing cover fire. It like the Centurions stand out from the rest of the group and it can feel proud to be different and unique. Depending on how you play it, I must say that I found this tank very enjoyable and fun and successful to drive. I wish that you readers, will also be able to have fun driving this tank or at least find it bearable after reading this guide. 

 

So without further ado, let's go over some tactics you can use. 

 

Hanging back: You are not meant to be a front-line heavy. You are more of a dedicated support tanks. However with the way matchmaking works these days, you will on occasion be the top tier tank. However that does not mean you have to charge into the fray. You will not last very long if you try to do that. Neither will cowering and sniping from range help much either. It's best you accompany your team and let some of your other tanks detect and report enemy tank positions for you. You can than unload on these targets while they are preoccupied with other matters ripping them apart. Around the late game where some tanks are down to low health, you can really shine in shredding wounded tanks and finishing off near death tanks. This tactic will also come in handy when you drive the Conqueror.

 

The Carousel: More often referred to by players as the Circle of Death ( or COD for short), this tactic relies on your tank's mobility to literally run circles around an enemy tank while he turns his turret in vain to shoot at you. Generally the Carousel is best used for tanks with agility and fast turret traverse. The Caernarvon has the benefit of a fast turret traverse and good mobility. Against some slower tanks which take time to move around, the Caernarvon can out manuever them and get their flanks, slowly chipping away at their health, while the enemy can only turn slowly to shoot at you. However this tactic is rarely put into use with complete success as some tanks in the game can Counter-Carousel by using their hull traverse with their turret traverse to bring their guns to bear. This makes you extra vulnerable as you expose your weak sides to the enemy. And if the enemy backs into an obstacle, he can effectively negate your carousel and force you to engage in brawling style of combat.

 

However if you face an enemy who is too lazy to turn his hull, you will absolutely decimate him as he struggles to hit you.

 

Facehugging: This tactic is favourite of some tanks from other nations, especially tanks with strong turret armour. It's very simple. You get up close and personal with another tank right in his face. The idea is that the enemy will not have the gun depression to fire down into the hull but will have to aim for upper turret weak-spots while you punch holes into his armour. The Caernarvon is also suited for this kind of bullying tactic especially against equal tier opponents and some higher tier mediums.

 

When you facehug someone with the Caernarvon, they are confronted by your large gun mantlet, and they either have the option of firing into the top or sides of your turret or the turret ring. If they have terrible gun elevation or depression they will be stuck pinking away at your mantlet. Your tank has the best gun depression in the game which allows you to aim down onto the hulls of enemy tanks or at their turret weak-spots. To pull off this tactic with a reasonable rate of success, find a tank of equal tier or a medium tank. Press face first against him and find weak-spots to aim at with your gun. After firing your gun, wiggle your turret around while still pressing into the enemy tank and repeat. With a bit of luck, your enemies will struggle in vain to damage you only to bounce and bounce and bounce while you rip them apart completely before letting their dead husk go as you move onto your next target. 

 

Avoid facehugging higher tier tanks as they have better armor and bigger guns and finding weakspots will be a bit harder for you up close. Avoid facehugging tank destroyers as well due to their heavier armament unless they are sufficiently weakened.  

 

Peek a boo: You can play peek a boo with other tanks by popping out and taking a shot. before retreating quickly. With the somewhat decent hull armour when angled, this tank can afford to play peek a boo which is something you should avoid in the Centurion Mk. 1. With your fast reload and quick aim time, you can peek out take your shot and hopefully get back into cover before the enemy have time to react or aim. However while you can pull it off, it is a risky tactic as you deal less damage per shot than your adversary. 

 

Working the TerrainThis is by far the simplest and most effective tactic for this tank in game. Utilizing the terrain to conceal your hull. Use piles of rubble, dead tanks, hills and even ridge-lines and undulations in the terrain to work around. However you cannot afford to sit there and take it unlike American heavy tanks. Your turret does contain some glaring weak-spots. If you sit there and tank, you are giving your enemies time to aim at those weak-spots. The best way you can be successful while hulldown, is you pop up exposing only your turret, take your shot than reverse back into cover. Whether you are working ridge-lines or on a hill, repeat this tactic.

 

  1. Pop up
  2. Take your shot
  3. Retreat back into cover. 

 

Your accurate gun with a high rate of fire and relatively low aim time will allow you to apply this tactic effectively. While the enemy is still aiming for your turret weak-spots, you would have already fired and gone back down. With the strong mantlet and your ten degree's of gun depression you can make players feel frustrated as they bounce off that gun mantlet while you penetrate them. This tactic will take some time to get used to and initially you will have much trouble finding your proper position, but the most advice I can give you is, be patient and continue exploring areas and keep trying. Abuse situational awareness to move from cover to cover. Always be on the move. Eventually you will be a beast on hills and behind cover. 

 

AWACS Equipment: 

 

Large Calibre Gun Rammer: The rammer is a must have piece of equipment for this tank, boosting your rate of fire which is already quite high to be even higher.

 

Gun-Laying Drive: Helps you very much when you are working hills or ridge-lines. allowing your gun to be more accurate with the shots by decreasing your aim time.

 

Vertical Stabilizer: This will allow your tank to fire on the move with decent accuracy and a decrease in size of your aim circle.

 

Wet ammo-rack: If you are concerned about your ammorack  being damaged on this tank you can fit a wet ammorack to lower the chances of this happening, however this equipment isn't recommended for this tank as it breaks the Holy trinity of tank equipment: Rammer, Gun-Laying Drive, and either Optics or Vertical Stabilizer.

 

Coated Optics: If you wish to increase your already good view range and spot enemies sooner, you can equip coated optics to extend your view range. 

 

 I hope you guys found this guide helpful, and hopefully allowed those of you who struggled with this tank to now find it somewhat bearable at the very least. If you feel that there were any parts to this guide which were inadequately explained, or there were some areas I left out. Please let me know and I will try my best to rectify. 

 

Thanks for reading AWACS Tank Guides and I will see you on the battlefield.

 


Edited by EdAWACSdenyY, 23 March 2015 - 06:27 AM.

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RiezMich #2 Posted 12 March 2015 - 10:17 AM

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Do one on the IS-7 please!! thanks  :D +1

 

 


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View PostRiezMich, on 12 March 2015 - 03:17 AM, said:

Do one on the IS-7 please!! thanks  :D +1

 

I'll try after I've finished reviewing most of the British tanks. I'm not well versed with Russian tanks since I don't own any so I'll try to make do. These guides take about 3 days max to complete or a week depending on how much free time I have.

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Sigh... too late Ed... already sold it .  Great guide though.  Makes me think about buying it back.... NOT.

 

 

Oh yea... please do a guide for the IS7... still have not figured it out (currently stripped and in mothballs)


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Very nicely done

 


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View Postriprr, on 12 March 2015 - 06:00 AM, said:

We all love people with tips! So tell me how to enjoy my <cursing> Elefant!

 

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Dude that's a freaking AWESOME! Well done and a pleasure to read! +1


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Excellent work once again, Ed!

 

I am really enjoying my Caernarvon.  I have only run it just under 20 times but it is helping me learn to hold back a bit, which I need to learn with most of my other tanks as well.


 

The pen is awesome and as long as you can find another heavy to tag along with, you become a real annoyance to the red team...


 

Thanks for putting the time in!  These reviews are very helpful and extremely well done!



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Must read for me. I just finished the BP....

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Ed, you were sooooooooooo right on getting the 20pdr B first...I finally had it this morning and IT DOES make a big difference even when the specs are not much different that the A. Now I feel the rig is in better shape to be a player. Got a 5 kill on the first game with the B gun...Thank you for convincing me to get this instead the Pershing. Based on this research I will get the Centurion next. :)

 

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Nicely done, maybe a little wordy but you went into great detail so understandable. +1

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Thank you for this contribution. :honoring:

 

I'm enjoying the British heavy line quite a bit, but have run into a much tougher grind with the BP. I will be referencing this guide shortly (and often) when I add the Caernarvon. 


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View Post22friarfan19, on 18 March 2015 - 12:37 PM, said:

Thank you for this contribution. :honoring:

 

I'm enjoying the British heavy line quite a bit, but have run into a much tougher grind with the BP. I will be referencing this guide shortly (and often) when I add the Caernarvon. 

 

man, I did really well with the BP...I mean, it moves faster in reverse but still...the caernarvon is faster even in stock...you will need the 20pdr B asap.

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Great Great work. I really tried yo do this.  My kid is grinding up to the Caernarvon & asked me to repurchase mine.  I'd say by May, I'll be repurchasing it and will give this a go again.

 

P.S. Did you do a Conqueror review??  Couldn't find it if you did.


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View Postbigpoppadaddy, on 19 March 2015 - 09:34 PM, said:

Great Great work. I really tried yo do this.  My kid is grinding up to the Caernarvon & asked me to repurchase mine.  I'd say by May, I'll be repurchasing it and will give this a go again.

 

P.S. Did you do a Conqueror review??  Couldn't find it if you did.

 

No, I have only 3 reviews up so far under the Tag: "AWACS Tanks Guides" I've lately been quite busy in real life and writing these guides takes me at the most 3 days or more depending on my course-work. 

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View PostEdAWACSdenyY, on 12 March 2015 - 04:35 AM, said:

 Top gun: (Cause I doubt anyone will want to use the 17 pdr or 20 pdr Type A barrel) Ordnance Quick-Firing 20 pounder Type B barrel

 

 Average Damage:

 

230 (AP)

230 (APCR)

280 (HE)

 

Hey Ed, great guide.  But the above specs are incorrect.  Average damage for the Type B barrel is:

 

190 (AP)

190 (APCR)

250 (HE)

 

 


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View PostCptCheez, on 22 March 2015 - 10:58 PM, said:

 

Hey Ed, great guide.  But the above specs are incorrect.  Average damage for the Type B barrel is:

 

190 (AP)

190 (APCR)

250 (HE)

 

 

 

Thanks for pointing that out! I've fixed those errors.


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