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EPICANDY0131 #1 Posted 12 July 2014 - 03:02 AM

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I have finally gotten around to eliting this vehicle today by platooning with my buddy. The IS has been researched for me, so this review is right before I will sell this beast.

 

[My credentials]: 114 battles to Elite Status. 87w/27l netted me a 76% WR. I have also survived 77 battles (67%), and hit 86% of my shots. I have gotten an average exp of 637 and 1670 damage per game, with a 2.0 destruction ratio and 1.2 spotting ratio. Fair enough my maximum exp of 1160 only got me a 1st class Mastery Badge, but I find that it is hard to carry games. My Epic Medals include 1 Pool's and 6 Radely-Walter's.

 

The KV-1S. The first Russian heavy to get a 122mm that is NOT a derp gun. It is also the highest caliber cannon of ANY tank up to this tier that does not get a howitzer.

On the PC version, this tank is considered OP. In Blitz, I believe the developers lowered the statistics to make it more balanced.

 

Summary: Unlike my previous reviews, I'm going to put a rundown of most of the statistics that really matter to this vehicle. (for people to get a general idea)

 

The KV-1S has 960 HP with the upgraded turret (900 stock). The hull armor is less armored compared to the KV-1: 75/60/60. It is fairly weak, but the long side and maneuverable nature allows it to easily shift and angle. Side-scraping also works wonders, even against M6s and other KV-1S'. The turret cheeks on both stock and upgraded are weak. From the front, the mantlet is pretty strong, but cannot hold up to another KV-1S if it has the high penetration 122mm. The tank weighs a light 42~ tons, so the engine power of 600 hp (upgraded, 500 stock) can make it reach the top speed of 43km/h and traverse speed of 26 deg/s. The turret turns an okay 28deg/s, so combining the traverses can let you still follow quick flankers. The view range is a meager 230m: the bane of Russian tanks. However, once the top gun has been equipped, players will feel the power. 400 average alpha means a reliable 300-500 damage for each penetrating AP/APCR shot. the shell penetration of a beastly 175mm is also a difference between the 90mm M3 gun of the M6, an American heavy that many players enjoy. However, even a 100% crew only manages 2.86 shells a minute, and the aim time of 3.4 and dispersion of 0.46 at 100m will make you watch paint dry as the circle shrinks. A great heavy for massive firepower and great mobility. A MUST HAVE for common platooners of tier 6.

 

So onto the research path(s).

 

*these are the modules that can already be researched at lower tiers/different lines

 

122mm U-11* (KV-1) -> 76mm S-54* (T-34) -> Turret KV-85 -> 85mm D-5T/122mm D-2-5T -> 122mm D-2-5T/Suspension KV-1S Bis -> Suspension KV-1S Bis/85mm D-5T -> IS tank/Engine -> IS Tank

 

Now here's WHY.

 

Guns:

-76mm ZiS-5: Your stock gun. Even on the KV-1. Never use this at all. Ever.

-122mm U-11: The derp gun many people will use until they research the long 122mm. I find this gun to be too unreliable. I recommend sticking with the 76/85mm guns, or to load HEAT for many targets.

-76mm S-54: The last gun on the T-34. On the T-34, you should not really be using this gun. However, on a newly purchased KV-1S, if you have already researched this, I recommend sticking to this until the 85mm. Reliable penetration to some degree, and there is always APCR to rely on.

-85mm D-5T: The last module necessary for the IS tank. Although many prefer to use the U-11 all the way until the 122mm, I find the 85mm adequate. It deals great damage with a fast rate of fire, at the cost of a high aim time and low accuracy. This gun can easily load gold to penetrate many tier 8 targets. It also excels in DPM over the 122mm. 

-122mm D-2-5T: The beastly gun that characterizes this tank. 400 average damage per shot, and an awesome penetration value of 175mm. This comes at the cost of a slow 2.86 rounds per minute, and the 3.4 accuracy and 0.46 dispersion you have to get used to.

 

Turrets:

-KV-1S modification 1942: Weak armor. That is the only downside to this turret when using one of the three available "new" guns. The hitpoint pool it only 60 lower than that of a fully upgraded KV-1S, and the weight is actually pretty low. Mount it after you get the 85mm or 122mm, although I have not; the weight difference was no deciding factor for me.

-KV-85: Upgraded armor to 100/90/90. Nothing changes except for the armor, weight, and hitpoint pool.

 

Suspensions:

-KV-1S: Stock suspension. Need I say more?

-KV-1S Bis: Better traverse speed by 2, to 26 deg/s. Get it if you want a flat upgrade with no drawbacks.

 

Engines:

-V-2K: Stock engine. It will do fine.

-V-2IS: Upgraded engine. 100 extra horses to 600 hp. However, I did not research this because the stock engine on the IS is the same: I can unlock it by researching the IS.

 

Consumables:

The standard for me & alternative:

 

Multi-Purpose Restoration Pack

Repair Kit

First Aid Kit

OR

Extra Combat Rations &/or Adrenaline

 

Ammunition: (recommended/my actual loadout)

 

20 AP shells

5 APCR shells

1 HE shell

 

OR

 

15 AP shells

8-10 APCR shells

1-3 HE shell(s)

 

Equipment: (only if you want to keep it or just have the money to burn)

 

Gun Rammer

Gun Laying Drive

~Your Choice~

Ventilation/Toolbox/anything else you find useful

 

Gameplay:

 

STOCK KV-1S:

Hopefully you are using either the U-11 or the 76mm S-54 by now. You are an undergunned heavy of tier 5 even, since the KV-1 can use the U-11 well with its armor and the T-34 can (but IMHO shouldn't) equip the S-54. With the U-11, it is the usual peek-a-boom tactic. The S-54 requires a more careful approach to engaging the enemy, and careful aiming to penetrate the armor to do damage. Personally, a stock KV-1S is pretty hard to control the battle, as fully upgraded M6s and VKs will rip you apart. Be careful of tier 5 derp guns, as they still can hurt you. Being tracked is often fatal, as heavy tank repair speeds are often on the low side.

 

MAXED/almost maxed KV-1S:

With the 85mm, you can afford to be a bit LOT more aggressive. Although you only have half the alpha damage of the 122mm, the DPM is much greater if you are able to shoot every time you reload. Control the engagement with other lone KV-1S's to kill them quickly. I can't count the number of times I have underestimated the power of a medium gun on a heavy tank. However, load gold for M6's and VKs if you really need to penetrate them; medium guns tend to have lower penetration values. With the 122mm, the playstyle completely changes again. Now, the almost-half-minute reload will keep you out of the game for a long time, but you can use the time to effectively analyze the situation: retreat if you have to. More often than not, I see KV-1S drivers get their 122mm cannons fired once per game, and get swarmed by the enemies in the cap or on one of the flanks, pushing WAY too hard. Also, it is really frustrating to miss and bounce shots. The 122mm has bad aim time and accuracy, so stopping to let the reticule shrink may get you killed. Instead, you need to develop a judgement of when to fire on the move, and when to hold a shot. These skills will only carry over to the rest of the line of (current) Russian heavies. GL!

 

Armor: How to use/abuse it

The armor on all of the Russian tanks are controversial. Sure they are mostly thin, but some weird angles are formed, and may will cause players to rage. Note that all of the armor characteristics are based off the upgraded turret.

 

Hull:

The hull is not good. The thickness is less than the KV-1's. The only way to effectively utilize it is to side scrape IMO. Another way to angle against tier 5s and 4s is to see which plate they are gunning for, then angle the side/front to an extreme angle while they shoot. This will cause it to (hopefully) bounce/get absorbed. Also known as being a "bait fish", a full armor mechanics guide can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq5S8CrsUig (there is no part 2)

 

Turret:

This turret is where the Russians start having great angled & sloped armor. The cheeks are weak, but when angled, it can be pretty strong. The sides are an auto bounce from the front, but when targeted directly, it lacks the thickness. The cupola is also very thin and large, actually.

 

Hope I have covered everything!

 

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ChunkySquirrel #2 Posted 12 July 2014 - 03:18 AM

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Yes I realized the kv1s damage output for the 122 is lowered on PC it is 450 I think I'm pretty sure 

       

                                           

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EPICANDY0131 #3 Posted 12 July 2014 - 03:22 AM

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View Post_ErwinRommel__, on 12 July 2014 - 04:18 AM, said:

Yes I realized the kv1s damage output for the 122 is lowered on PC it is 450 I think I'm pretty sure 


No. It is actually increased. 390 -> 400

 

On PC, the gun u think of is the IS-4/IS-8's gun.

 

That one deals 440


Edited by EPICANDY0131, 12 July 2014 - 03:24 AM.

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DeadlyAsians #4 Posted 12 July 2014 - 03:39 AM

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Kv-1s actually does take some skill to drive in blitz, like stated. The question is, was those stats solo :3


EPICANDY0131 #5 Posted 12 July 2014 - 03:50 AM

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View PostDeadlyAsians, on 12 July 2014 - 04:39 AM, said:

Kv-1s actually does take some skill to drive in blitz, like stated. The question is, was those stats solo :3


Mostly, actually. At least in the beginning.


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ChunkySquirrel #6 Posted 12 July 2014 - 04:40 AM

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View PostEPICANDY0131, on 11 July 2014 - 11:22 PM, said:


No. It is actually increased. 390 -> 400

 

On PC, the gun u think of is the IS-4/IS-8's gun.

 

That one deals 440

Yeah that's the one maybe lol 

 

but in the blitz stats in garage the 122 says it only does 220 damage or am I looking at the wrong gun the one I'm looking at cost 20k exp


       

                                           

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gffcom #7 Posted 12 July 2014 - 05:00 AM

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Great review. If you are able, I would love to see your thoughts on the Russian heavies as you progress up the tree. I just got my IS earlier today, so I would find it really helpful.

                                                         

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DeadlyAsians #8 Posted 12 July 2014 - 05:01 AM

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View PostEPICANDY0131, on 12 July 2014 - 04:50 AM, said:


Mostly, actually. At least in the beginning.

So u cheated by platooning :O Lol JK nice stats:)



dddqqq #9 Posted 12 July 2014 - 05:43 AM

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90% win rate in my kv1s. I will never sell this tank. 

 

No other tank can make me giggle so hard after every shot. 



DeadlyAsians #10 Posted 12 July 2014 - 07:03 AM

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View Postdddqqq, on 12 July 2014 - 06:43 AM, said:

90% win rate in my kv1s. I will never sell this tank. 

 

No other tank can make me giggle so hard after every shot. 


Nothing is better then shooting HE into those dinkerderps



Integrity125 #11 Posted 12 July 2014 - 08:02 AM

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KV-1S, the "Bigger Brother" in my garage.

 

At least, until I get the IS.


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EPICANDY0131 #12 Posted 12 July 2014 - 09:59 AM

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View Postgffcom, on 12 July 2014 - 06:00 AM, said:

Great review. If you are able, I would love to see your thoughts on the Russian heavies as you progress up the tree. I just got my IS earlier today, so I would find it really helpful.


I will get mine soon.

 

Don't expect a full review, tho, before u finish the tank. I take a long time to make up my mind.


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EPICANDY0131 #13 Posted 12 July 2014 - 10:01 AM

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View PostDeadlyAsians, on 12 July 2014 - 06:01 AM, said:

So u cheated by platooning :O Lol JK nice stats:)


Platooning with others that are somewhat inconsistent and die before you is not cheating. It's grinding and having fun together.


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Wake_Island #14 Posted 12 July 2014 - 03:35 PM

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Playing with EPIC and other KV1S players it is very important you cover their reload in a platoon. I can not stress this enough.


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EPICANDY0131 #15 Posted 12 July 2014 - 08:14 PM

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View PostWake_Island, on 12 July 2014 - 04:35 PM, said:

Playing with EPIC and other KV1S players it is very important you cover their reload in a platoon. I can not stress this enough.


Exactly why you platoon in the first place.


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View PostWake_Island, on 12 July 2014 - 04:35 PM, said:

Playing with EPIC and other KV1S players it is very important you cover their reload in a platoon. I can not stress this enough.

Play it solo :3 So much more fun!!!



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View PostDeadlyAsians, on 13 July 2014 - 08:24 AM, said:

Play it solo :3 So much more fun!!!

 

I just held off and killed 3 Tier VIIIs in my KV-1S alone. Granted I had sniper support from my team, but that was a little hairy.


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Yes, more than any other tank I've come across- the KV-1S is the one that makes me cringe. It's what my nightmares are made of...

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That brutal reload makes for an easy flank if people weren't so scared of taking a big hit

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View PostOnemeaus, on 16 July 2014 - 02:59 AM, said:

That brutal reload makes for an easy flank if people weren't so scared of taking a big hit

Which is where you're bluffing skills come in...


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