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[Olezka]

Lokeen, on 08 July 2015 - 08:32 AM, said:

IMHO 1 degree of gun depression can mean the difference between HAVING a kill shot vs RECEIVING a kill shot.

 

Nuff said.

If you were a little better at aiming, they would of been dead already

[Nek3d]

Here are Obj 140 stats from Russian forums:

1900 HP confirmed, which is pretty OP I think.

However, people in Russian forums are raged about 250 m view range (see bottom line in the screenshot). This is a huge disadvantage: 10 or more meter difference with other tier 10 mediums (T62-A and E50 M have 260, FV has 265 and Patton has 270) mean that your chances of making the first shot are close to zero.

WG Moderator from Russian forum promised to ask developers whether this is a mistake or not. Knowing how WG does things, my best guess that Obj 140 will be released with 250 and buffed in next update 

[Lokeen]

sunbumy, on 08 July 2015 - 02:47 PM, said:

If you were a little better at aiming, they would of been dead already

 

What's the purpose of your comment?  To infer that my skills are lacking?  Why would you comment on what you think my skills are when it is totally irrelevant to the post or the thread topic?

 

I made a comment about my opinion, nothing more.  I did not attack anyone, I was not rude and my comment was on topic with the opening post.

 

Your comment is unnecessary and passively rude and insulting.  

 

In future do the forum readers in general a favor and CONNECT YOUR BRAIN TO YOUR FINGERS BEFORE YOU CONNECT YOUR FINGERS TO THE KEYBOARD.

 

It's posts like these that serve no purpose but to inflame community members (whether it's one or many) and derail the intended purpose of the post.

 

 

[Yogismith1970]

Lokeen, on 09 July 2015 - 09:06 AM, said:

 

What's the purpose of your comment?  To infer that my skills are lacking?  Why would you comment on what you think my skills are when it is totally irrelevant to the post or the thread topic?

 

I made a comment about my opinion, nothing more.  I did not attack anyone, I was not rude and my comment was on topic with the opening post.

 

Your comment is unnecessary and passively rude and insulting.  

 

In future do the forum readers in general a favor and CONNECT YOUR BRAIN TO YOUR FINGERS BEFORE YOU CONNECT YOUR FINGERS TO THE KEYBOARD.

 

It's posts like these that serve no purpose but to inflame community members (whether it's one or many) and derail the intended purpose of the post.

 

 

 

I think you read into this a tad too much and maybe you need to follow your own advice at the end of your post. 

 

Just my opinion though. 

Edited by Yogismith1970, 09 July 2015 - 02:58 PM.

[Rion12]

donniedon13, on 07 July 2015 - 11:48 PM, said:

 

may be my aggressive play style in those tanks. I do play the 62A a lot since I got it a few weeks ago and I can say once you turn the hull of the 62A sideways it has more than enough gun depression. As far as I know the stats they release are of frontal depression. If the obj has one more on the sides then that's great. If it's inly the front you won't even notice it.

 

Edit: long story short the 6 degrees won't make a difference but if it has 9 or 10 degrees on the side then that's where the tank will shine

 

Last I checked, the T-62A's gun depression does NOT change depending on where it's pointing.

 

It's not like the E 50 M, where the limiting factor is the frontal hull. The limiting factor for the T-62A is its pancake of a turret.

 

 

Looking through the Armor Inspector:

T-62A has -5 degree gun depression at all turret angles.

Obj. 140 has -6 degrees of gun depression for the most part, but it plummets to -2 as soon as the gun passes over the rear hull.

[Lokeen]

Yogismith1970, on 09 July 2015 - 09:50 AM, said:

 

I think you read into this a tad too much and maybe you need to follow your own advice at the end of your post. 

 

Just my opinion though. 

 

I certainly respect your opinion which you're entitled to.  Just trying to point out that negative sarcastic posts such as this that are not productive and not the purpose of the forum.

 

Yes I admit it was a little "ranty" but I can only take so much before I feel the need to express my thoughts.

[Olezka]

Lokeen, on 09 July 2015 - 06:06 AM, said:

 

What's the purpose of your comment?  To infer that my skills are lacking?  Why would you comment on what you think my skills are when it is totally irrelevant to the post or the thread topic?

 

I made a comment about my opinion, nothing more.  I did not attack anyone, I was not rude and my comment was on topic with the opening post.

 

Your comment is unnecessary and passively rude and insulting.  

 

In future do the forum readers in general a favor and CONNECT YOUR BRAIN TO YOUR FINGERS BEFORE YOU CONNECT YOUR FINGERS TO THE KEYBOARD.

 

It's posts like these that serve no purpose but to inflame community members (whether it's one or many) and derail the intended purpose of the pos

The point of my comment was to say that a little more accuracy never Hurts anyone, a well Aimed shot before hand might mean that you wouldn't have to reach a point where you need that Extra 1degree. That said, Think before you you jump to conclusions next time, do you really think that I meant, "your skillls are lacking?" Did I attack you with my comment? was I rude? I don't know what's up buddy, but maybe you were just having a bad day, but next time, you should "CONNECT YOUR BRAIN" before making a rant directed at someone

[A7X0]

T-62A, Obj 140 has ONE more degree of gun depression, it makes a difference, but the 140 has a crap turret compared to the T-62A. The turret roof is bad and the cupolas are big, two of them in fact. T-62A turret is incredibly strong from the top, hitting the commander hatch is very difficult. I just shoot gold at the cheeks because that commander's hatch is so hard to hit. And it appears T-62A will have a faster ROF than it so that gives it another advantage. 5 degrees of gun depression may be miserable indeed, but you'll find if you play around with the terrain a bit, you will be able to make it work. Just my opinion.

[George__S__Patton]

A7X0, on 11 July 2015 - 09:36 PM, said:

T-62A, Obj 140 has ONE more degree of gun depression, it makes a difference, but the 140 has a crap turret compared to the T-62A. The turret roof is bad and the cupolas are big, two of them in fact. T-62A turret is incredibly strong from the top, hitting the commander hatch is very difficult. I just shoot gold at the cheeks because that commander's hatch is so hard to hit. And it appears T-62A will have a faster ROF than it so that gives it another advantage. 5 degrees of gun depression may be miserable indeed, but you'll find if you play around with the terrain a bit, you will be able to make it work. Just my opinion.

Agreed. The T-62A's turret armor and the rate of fire are, in my opinion, just enough to make up for the horrible gun depression; I'll have to side with my beloved in this debate.

[Rion12]

A7X0, on 12 July 2015 - 05:36 AM, said:

T-62A, Obj 140 has ONE more degree of gun depression, it makes a difference, but the 140 has a crap turret compared to the T-62A. The turret roof is bad and the cupolas are big, two of them in fact. T-62A turret is incredibly strong from the top, hitting the commander hatch is very difficult. I just shoot gold at the cheeks because that commander's hatch is so hard to hit. And it appears T-62A will have a faster ROF than it so that gives it another advantage. 5 degrees of gun depression may be miserable indeed, but you'll find if you play around with the terrain a bit, you will be able to make it work. Just my opinion.

 

Not to mention, playing all the way through the T-44 and T-54 should have given players more than enough time to become accustomed to 5 degree gun depression.

[PannerPanda]

Beastnumber2, on 08 July 2015 - 04:27 PM, said:

 

The one degree difference is there for the 140 to have some advantage over the 62a other then hp. In the stats reveal the 140 has 1900 hp but a 9.09 rof. The 62a is really about the same speed, it has better armor by a mile, it has better dpm, and a GOOD player won't care about the less gun depression, im gonna stick with the 62a camp here, and I strongly say that the 62a will be a better tank in blitz. If it had the same or higher rof then the 62a it'd be debatable. 

Actually the Object has 1850 HP(It used to have 1750 HP)with 62A having 1900.5 degrees versus 6 degrees is not a big difference yah.I don't have it but grinding for T-62A.Actually they have 9.62 RPM same DPM and Obj is faster in top speed but less traverse.And turret amor for 62 is much better.They have about same armor.But yah just come correctio 

 

 

 

 

 

[__Hulk__]

I think the object is easier to learn and more like the t54. The 62 is harder to master, but in the long run the better tank. Thou the armor stat is higher for obj, the 62 plays like it has better armor to me.