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reluctanttheist #1 Posted 16 July 2015 - 05:49 PM

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Concep in his Q&A thread suggested this assortment:

 

E5, E5, E5, T-62, T-62/E50M/M48/FV4202, E3, E3/268

 

I'm surprised that the IS-7 was not on his list.  (No Leopard since this was before that tank was introduced)

 

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crazychimp69 #2 Posted 16 July 2015 - 05:52 PM

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Tier 10s

-T62A

-T62A/E50/FV4202/Patton

-Patton or FV4202 or E5

-FV-215B

-E5/IS-7

-E5/IS-4

-268

But I'm a noob so who knows....

 

Tier 9s

-T-54

-T-54/E50

-Centurion 7/1/M46 Patton 

-E-75/M103

-E-75/M103

-ST-I/E-75/M103

-704/T30

 

 

 

 


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reluctanttheist #5 Posted 16 July 2015 - 06:00 PM

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View PostMSixteen, on 16 July 2015 - 09:56 AM, said:

My secrets will never be revealed until you guys go against KRIEG with a match I call :justwait:

 

Well the secret sauce really is the player.  Thank you for posting but not participating in this discussion :harp:

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Pheldagriff #6 Posted 16 July 2015 - 06:10 PM

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E5

E5 / IS-7

E5 / IS-4 / IS-7

T-62A

T-62A / Leopard 1 / E50M / M48 Patton

Obj. 268

Obj. 268 / E3

 

 

IMO Maus and E100 won't be so great for CW. Everyone's spamming gold but E100's HEAT is dirt unreliable. High RoF with E5 means more room for mistake. Plus E5 is more accurate and already has decent standard ammo pen. Maus is well Maus. Gold in CW, lack of mobility, and bad TX gun pushes Maus down my list. FV 215b is great but that rear-mounted turret makes pop-outs harder for the Brit. IS-4 is great for some city maps along with the IS-7, but because of the gun depression, accuracy, and RoF of the E5, I feel the E5 really rules the choices amongst heavies.

 

FV 4202 is not a bad tank. I just prefer the anti-med E50 M (the weight), the fast firing T-62A, or the jack-of-all trades (and maps) M48 Patton. Leo 1 is there because of the amazing gun that makes snapshots child's play; therefore, easier for bumrushing.

 

Jageru doesn't have the RoF or DPM. While a great tank for leading the push, not such a great tank for the bum rushes in CW. E3 finds its place in the list because of the raw armor. Obj. 268 for DPM and the constant trolling with all those slopes. E4 not there for obvious reasons.

 

 

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Depends entirely on the map

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View PostMinecraftexpert_25, on 16 July 2015 - 12:11 PM, said:

Depends entirely on the map

 

This^^^

And it also heavily depends on if you're attacking or defending. If you're defending, high alpha guns than cam roll in and out of cover might be preferred over guns like on the T-62A and Obj 140.

 

It also depends a LOT on the style of play the caller has.

 

If he wants to run 2 IS-7s, 2 FV215bs 2 T-62A/Obj 140s and a Leo, they would make a fast aggressive push. 

 

But if somebody wants an 2 E-100, 2 T110E3s, 2 FV215bs and a Leo for spotting, they'd have a much more methodical and defensive style of play


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reluctanttheist #9 Posted 16 July 2015 - 06:22 PM

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Forget the map.  You don't know what the map will be... so choose your tanks in light of the fact you're in the dark ;)

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View PostMSixteen, on 16 July 2015 - 06:22 PM, said:

 

This^^^

And it also heavily depends on if you're attacking or defending. If you're defending, high alpha guns than cam roll in and out of cover might be preferred over guns like on the T-62A and Obj 140.

 

It also depends a LOT on the style of play the caller has.

 

If he wants to run 2 IS-7s, 2 FV215bs 2 T-62A/Obj 140s and a Leo, they would make a fast aggressive push. 

 

But if somebody wants an 2 E-100, 2 T110E3s, 2 FV215bs and a Leo for spotting, they'd have a much more methodical and defensive style of play

 

But that's the thing. It would be better to focus in on tanks that are versatile. You don't know the map. If the map favors a defensive playstyle then ok. But if it doesn't (Desert Sands - The bum rush will be real), then what? BTW IS-7's and FV 215b's work well peek-a-booming for obvious reasons.

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View PostPheldagriff, on 16 July 2015 - 01:10 PM, said:

E5

E5 / IS-7

E5 / IS-4 / IS-7

T-62A

T-62A / Leopard 1 / E50M / M48 Patton

Obj. 268

Obj. 268 / E3

 

 

IMO Maus and E100 won't be so great for CW. Everyone's spamming gold but E100's HEAT is dirt unreliable. High RoF with E5 means more room for mistake. Plus E5 is more accurate and already has decent standard ammo pen. Maus is well Maus. Gold in CW, lack of mobility, and bad TX gun pushes Maus down my list. FV 215b is great but that rear-mounted turret makes pop-outs harder for the Brit. IS-4 is great for some city maps along with the IS-7, but because of the gun depression, accuracy, and RoF of the E5, I feel the E5 really rules the choices amongst heavies.

 

FV 4202 is not a bad tank. I just prefer the anti-med E50 M (the weight), the fast firing T-62A, or the jack-of-all trades (and maps) M48 Patton. Leo 1 is there because of the amazing gun that makes snapshots child's play; therefore, easier for bumrushing.

 

Jageru doesn't have the RoF or DPM. While a great tank for leading the push, not such a great tank for the bum rushes in CW. E3 finds its place in the list because of the raw armor. Obj. 268 for DPM and the constant trolling with all those slopes. E4 not there for obvious reasons.

 

 

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View Postreluctanttheist, on 16 July 2015 - 12:22 PM, said:

Forget the map.  You don't know what the map will be... so choose your tanks in light of the fact you're in the dark ;)

 

View PostPheldagriff, on 16 July 2015 - 12:35 PM, said:

 

But that's the thing. It would be better to focus in on tanks that are versatile. You don't know the map. If the map favors a defensive playstyle then ok. But if it doesn't (Desert Sands - The bum rush will be real), then what? BTW IS-7's and FV 215b's work well peek-a-booming for obvious reasons.

 

you will know the map that the match will be played on, if it's anything like PC clan wars, the only thing "blind" about it will be the enemy' s line up due to fog of war 

 


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View PostMRobertsRCS, on 16 July 2015 - 06:37 PM, said:

 

Wait, what?  So I'm spending 2 billion hours grinding the T-30 and the E4 sucks?  There goes my plan....

 

That just means you'll have all the guns unlocked for when you grind the magnificent E3. Which you should do.


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That line I suggested is far outdated because the IS-7 wasn't buffed to nonsense by that point and I've changed my view on certain tanks.

 

T-62/140, T-62/140/Leo, E5/215b/T-62, E5/215b, E100/IS-7, E100/IS-7, and E3/JPE100


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View PostPinDadNW, on 16 July 2015 - 06:43 PM, said:

 

That just means you'll have all the guns unlocked for when you grind the magnificent E3. Which you should do.

 

actually the T25 AT's 105mm helps with the T28 Prototype grind

 

@AK-47

 

Yes, you know the map. But by building around versatility for all maps you can easily formulate a plan to do thing x, etc, etc.

 

In addition, by building around versatility for all maps you have effectively built versatility in playstyle. They go defensive? DPM and armor of Obj. 268 and E3 can fix that. Bum rush? We got the RoF too.


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View PostMRobertsRCS, on 16 July 2015 - 12:37 PM, said:

 

Wait, what?  So I'm spending 2 billion hours grinding the T-30 and the E4 sucks?  There goes my plan....

Play the E4 like a heavy


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View Postreluctanttheist, on 16 July 2015 - 06:22 PM, said:

Forget the map.  You don't know what the map will be... so choose your tanks in light of the fact you're in the dark ;)

 

Actually in CW you do know the map...

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View PostMRobertsRCS, on 16 July 2015 - 06:37 PM, said:

 

Wait, what?  So I'm spending 2 billion hours grinding the T-30 and the E4 sucks?  There goes my plan....

 

Like AK-47 said. Play E4 like a heavy. Keep in mind that ur turret only turns 90 degrees right or left. No 360

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View PostPheldagriff, on 16 July 2015 - 12:49 PM, said:

 

actually the T25 AT's 105mm helps with the T28 Prototype grind

 

@AK-47

 

Yes, you know the map. But by building around versatility for all maps you can easily formulate a plan to do thing x, etc, etc.

 

In addition, by building around versatility for all maps you have effectively built versatility in playstyle. They go defensive? DPM and armor of Obj. 268 and E3 can fix that. Bum rush? We got the RoF too.

I'd like to see those tanks do well on mines When I send 4 mediums to the hill while 3 heavies are pressuring your front, 2-3 mediums will leave the hill and flank your sorry TDs.

You must adapt your strategy for each map, and if you're attacking or defending. If I know exactly what you're gonna use every time, I'm gonna have fun making you and your clan look like fools when I make the perfect counter for your line up. Just sayin.


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I feel like the E100 would be a waste of a tank.  Armor is meh, gun is meh, mobility blows.  IS-7 would be a much better choice than any  E100.

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