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T-34-85 with 122mm or with 85M?


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Blartch #21 Posted 17 August 2015 - 05:49 PM

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View Postcrazychimp69, on 17 August 2015 - 05:41 PM, said:

If your that stupid

hm....

 

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Firefly_1026 #22 Posted 18 August 2015 - 05:38 AM

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i mounted a derp on my m4 and sometimes my 3485 once or twice just so i can watch he rounds explode and piss off the green team

StealthBrigade #23 Posted 18 August 2015 - 05:50 AM

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Its not called the t34-122 is it?

cl1nt_B3astWood #24 Posted 18 August 2015 - 12:20 PM

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Use the 85, no questions asked.
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chicken_stiffer #25 Posted 18 August 2015 - 01:19 PM

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you got to be kidding me this ranks up there with people going into battle with DERP guns on the COMET, CROMWELL, or PANTHER!!    Look at the name of the tank "T-34-85"  and you have your answer!!!

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View PostKsftwe, on 17 August 2015 - 11:05 AM, said:

If I ever see a forumer using a derp gun on a medium (not for a challenge or video) I will hang myself and set this place ablaze.

In that order? I'd be impressed, actually...


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View Postcrazychimp69, on 17 August 2015 - 05:41 PM, said:

 

this^ 

If your* that stupid to use the 122mm, be in the red team or not play at all

 

So ironic 

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View Postcrazychimp69, on 17 August 2015 - 04:50 PM, said:

85mm is always better. The derp sucks because 

  • Only potatoes use derp at tier 5+
  • It has low velocity so the shell will take aboot a year for it to reach its target
  • HEAT shells are expensive 
  • Slow reload
  • HEAT doesn't work with spaced armor
  • Inaccurate 

If your stupid enough to use the derp, by all means go ahead. Just don't be in my team

 

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Libereco #29 Posted 18 August 2015 - 02:02 PM

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View PostKsftwe, on 17 August 2015 - 02:05 PM, said:

If I ever see a forumer using a derp gun on a medium (not for a challenge or video) I will hang myself and set this place ablaze.

Same

 

What happened with your IS-6 record?



tlouie #30 Posted 18 August 2015 - 02:49 PM

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View PostStealthBrigade, on 18 August 2015 - 12:50 AM, said:

Its not called the t34-122 is it?

 

That's actually pretty useful.



Delta256 #31 Posted 18 August 2015 - 02:55 PM

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Holy crap guys, he was just asking a question. Seriously, you tell people to point others towards the forums so they can get help, and then you rip them apart when they TRY to get help. This is why we have so many "potatoes" to complain about.


Anyways, stick with the 85mm gun. The alpha damage on the 122 is not worth having to deal with the low (even for HEAT) penetration, and the terribad aim time, RoF, and accuracy. The 85 is an excellent gun at tier VI, and is the exact same gun used at tier VII, so using it on the T-34-85 will help you later on with the T-43/KV-13.

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Rion12 #32 Posted 18 August 2015 - 03:14 PM

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The 85 mm cannon is the superior option on account of its better aim stats and rate of fire, and general reliability in damage when you consider the nature of the tank that you're driving.

 

Taking from CptCheez's gun spreadsheet (Cpt, you are awesome for making this):

122 mm U-11 4.52 337 562   1523 2540 2032   46 76 61   0.57 2.9
85 mm D5T-85BM 7.25 150 250   1088 1813 1450   108 180 144   0.37 2.3

 

The DPM on the U-11 might seem better in the damage-dealing department, but I'd be careful in believing that number, since it's assuming that every round you fire penetrates fully and actually hits the target. In the context of an actual match, you will NEVER be able to pull that off. 

 

The 85 mm has noticeably better aim time and dispersion. On a mobile platform like the T-34-85, good accuracy stats are very valuable, since you do NOT want to let yourself be exposed for too long to take your shots, and making shots on the move will be fairly common (or at the very least, you will be making more hasty shots where you stop for only a brief moment before firing and moving again). Not to mention, you will also get much more reliable damage output since the 85 mm gun is far less likely to miss a shot. The U-11's dispersion value is absolutely atrocious. It wouldn't hit the broad side of a barn from inside of said barn.

 

In short, the U-11 is far too dependent on random elements to deal damage that I cannot seriously suggest it. Run with the 85 mm for reliability's sake, as the U-11 will struggle to match the 85 mm's damage output under any practical circumstances, even if you were to spam HEAT.


Edited by Rion12, 18 August 2015 - 03:15 PM.


K1llCommand #33 Posted 20 August 2015 - 11:29 PM

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View PostDelta256, on 18 August 2015 - 02:55 PM, said:

Holy crap guys, he was just asking a question. Seriously, you tell people to point others towards the forums so they can get help, and then you rip them apart when they TRY to get help. This is why we have so many "potatoes" to complain about.


Anyways, stick with the 85mm gun. The alpha damage on the 122 is not worth having to deal with the low (even for HEAT) penetration, and the terribad aim time, RoF, and accuracy. The 85 is an excellent gun at tier VI, and is the exact same gun used at tier VII, so using it on the T-34-85 will help you later on with the T-43/KV-13.

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K1llCommand #34 Posted 27 October 2015 - 02:24 AM

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View Posttlouie, on 18 August 2015 - 02:49 PM, said:

 

That's actually pretty useful.

I guess so, if it was the 122mm mounted on the IS, and a buffed firerate like the SU-122-44.



af24snipes #35 Posted 27 October 2015 - 02:22 PM

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85mm, and the thing is Soviet, not American.

skyking21 #36 Posted 27 October 2015 - 03:42 PM

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Delta hit it on the head, chill guys he obviously didn't know and was asking a question.  Heaven help any more new people that come here with questions smh

K1llCommand #37 Posted 30 October 2015 - 07:42 AM

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View Postskyking21, on 27 October 2015 - 03:42 PM, said:

Delta hit it on the head, chill guys he obviously didn't know and was asking a question.  Heaven help any more new people that come here with questions smh

This was my first forum thread I posted too, obviously I wouldn't have known better. Thanks.



K1llCommand #38 Posted 30 October 2015 - 07:44 AM

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View Postaf24snipes, on 27 October 2015 - 02:22 PM, said:

85mm, and the thing is Soviet, not American.

I don't know what I was thinking. This was when I was a newcomer



jermvert #39 Posted 21 October 2018 - 12:17 AM

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Probably the 85mm   D5T-85M, medium tanks are used for support(in my opinion) to deal quick precise damage.

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View Postjermvert, on 20 October 2018 - 04:17 PM, said:

Probably the 85mm   D5T-85M, medium tanks are used for support(in my opinion) to deal quick precise damage.

 

DUDE. This thread is 3 YEARS OLD. IT HASN'T BEEN COMMENTED IN...3 YEARS. THIS IS YOUR FIRST FORUM POST AND YOU SOMEHOW MANAGED TO DIG UP A THREAD FROM 3 YEARS AGO AND COMMENT ON IT...REALLY???

 

It's not the biggest deal in the world but dude. Let threads die. 


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