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[garthsimpson45]

I just want to say the best way to earn credits with the T43 is to not take a lot of damage but damage the enenmy a lot

[Iron_Savage]

 

Great stuff PJ, and thanks a bunch Mloomis!!!! I can't believe I haven't checked out this thread sooner...

Cheers Mates!

[ComradePike]

I realize this has been up awhile but I've only just seen it....and wanted to say THANKS! as this is one awesome compilation of data.

[Lephturn]

CptCheez, on 27 September 2015 - 01:43 AM, said:

 

It's not just by damage dealt.  Credits are earned several other different ways too.  You can't just try to come up with a "Damage * X = Credits" formula, because it won't be accurate.

http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Battle_Mechanics#Tank_Experience_and_Credits

 

What does work is XP. Use XP as your base and you'll have something - all of those other things are factored into XP.

[CptCheez]

Lephturn, on 15 October 2015 - 04:29 PM, said:

 

What does work is XP. Use XP as your base and you'll have something - all of those other things are factored into XP.

 

But then there are some things for which you earn XP that you don't earn credits for.  Like kill shots.  Or base Cap/Def points.

[dementian]

Hey, can you add Tankenstein to your list of tanks to choose from.  I'm curious where it sits for earnings.  Need to be able to feed you data for it.  (or did I miss it?  I don't think it was in the list)

[tlouie]

Eshaan1999, on 11 November 2015 - 11:36 PM, said:

The question we're all wondering is: why?

 

What differentiates the amount of credits earned in a tank? what makes the E4 earn that much less than the E3, just the fact that it has a turret? WG has done an excellent job levelling out the tanks so that in the hands of the right player each tank stands against any other tank of that tier, so what's the point of having them all earn different amounts like this?

 

 

Why?

 

My guess is population balancing. I think WG would rather see a diverse population of all the tanks in play in battles.

 

If for whatever reason a tank is unpopular and underplayed across the population, then increasing its relative credit earning power is a way to encourage its use.

 

 

Edited by tlouie, 12 November 2015 - 12:32 PM.

[The_Motarp]

These numbers make no sense. The T-54 is at the same time the most common and most overpowered tier IX tank and also gets the best credits?  I'm pretty sure there is some heavy Russian bias in these numbers, they get top spot of non premium tanks for the top three tiers, and the KV-3s high rating combined with its high win rate and ability to dish out damage means it is simultaneously the best stat padder and best credit earner of all the non premium tanks. I knew I kept mine around for a reason.

[UwUmonkeChan]

Just wondering if there is a more current version. (And also bumping. This thread )

[putnamJavi]

I've checked and EU (My source) hasn't updated yet.  

[Archie761]

crazychimp69, on 09 December 2015 - 12:14 AM, said:

Just wondering if there is a more current version. (And also bumping. This thread )

 

Ummm it's a pinned thread no bumping required.

 

But it will be interesting to see the credit earning of the new tank lines when there is some data.

[putnamJavi]

There have been quite a few questions recently regarding the information not being up to date.  When I checked with my source at EU, I found out a couple of things.  This information was actually "leaked" from a WG employee so it's the actual credit earnings.  However, I was also informed that some of the WG staff didn't take too kindly to the leaks and started retaliating by banning players doing the leaks.  Also, other regional WG staff are getting petty and territorial with the information sharing that's going on.  Players on other servers who link to a different server besides their home are receiving Bans.  This activity has curtailed the player base from updating info. 

[reluctanttheist]

So WG NA pins it on their forums and now it's controversial?  Um.. 

[Divine_Winter]

Anyone provided information for the Type 59 yet?

[putnamJavi]

Divine_Winter, on 11 January 2016 - 09:57 AM, said:

Anyone provided information for the Type 59 yet?

 

Unfortunately, nothing official has been provided as of yet.  

[ahredstealth]

Less then the Lowe, more then the Indien Panzer.

[_DragonKRIEG]

Jagdpanther>E 25 O.O But but JP is standard and E 25 is premium!

[Ajeroth]

Hello All,

 

Thanks to putnamJavi for starting this discussion.

 

I understand leaks are bad, but we don't need leaks to understand this better, and update the information.  I have developed a more or less working calculation for gross credits. Gross Credit Calculation thread.

 

I have begun compiling the unique tank coefficients.  This is an easy calculation using data from a miserable loss. E.G. a loss with minimal damage, assisted damage and spotting.  The larger any of these numbers, it will introduce rounding errors into the unique tank coefficient calculation.

 

I have already done Tier 1&2, and would love any data from you all for premium and 3+.  The only data I need is the damage (if any), assisted damage (if any), spotted tanks (if any) and the gross credits (without premium) from a LOSS.  A victory introduces a large potential for error.

 

This helps us understand the relative credit earning ability of the tanks, but I do not believe it is completely accurate.  We need to factor in DPM into this calculation.  It matters not if the tank has a high Credit Effectiveness (CE) if it cannot do high sustained damage.  Once I get the unique tank coefficients, I would be happy to calculate the C/M (Credits per Minute) and see where everything lies.  I would also like to introduce penetration chance into the equation, maybe have a ratio based upon caliber/average (front/side/rear) armor in +2/-2 Tiers?

 

All of this I already have the foundation for using the API, I just need the unique tank coefficients =)

 

Thanks!

Edited by Ajeroth, 19 March 2016 - 12:36 PM.

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[johnnyzim]

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