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Klaus_Klavier #1 Posted 15 January 2016 - 02:48 AM

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The audio disconnects a bit due to lag while recording but you see clearly that a Jagdpanzer IV (which when top tier boasts very good penetration) targets my sidescraping Anko and fails to penetrate what's normally 25mm of side armor due to the 5mm of spaced armor. 

 

Any other tier V Med would have easily been penned by 150mm of average penetration at an angle like that.

 

this tank only had 20mm of armor on the side...minus the skirts. 

 

That jpanzer IV had a 75mm gun

 

20 X 3 = 60

 

60mm guns should overmatch the anko side armor.

 

this leads us to an important discovery about overmatching and spaced armor. 

 

When overmatching armor you must have to add spaced armor into the equation as if it was solid. 

 

so my effective side thickness is 25 X 3

75mm. 

 

If if my hunch is correct about over matching the shell must be bigger than 3 X the thickness of the armor so all 75mm guns can be sidescraped against. But tanks with 76mm guns (like the E8) should still overmatch your side armor....this has yet to be tested though so I cannot say for sure. But this is what I can deduce from bouncing that shell


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30* side armor

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View PostRyan_Dazel, on 14 January 2016 - 09:51 PM, said:

30* side armor

Look at that....... time to crunch some numbers (thanks for pointing that out)


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View PostXeraux, on 14 January 2016 - 06:52 PM, said:

I've no problem with these stupid anime tanks as long as they stay the hell away from PC.

 

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Could've been a lucky bounce

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Okay so 30mm of side armor

That's 90mm guns...meaning a 91mm+ will overmatch your side armor.

But add 5mm to that (if my previous logic still holds true) and 35 X 3 = 105mm

Meaning only TDs and the Russians with 107mm and 122mm should overmatch you.

If my previous logic is faulty though then it means over matching occurs through as many layers of armor as it wants as long as it doesn't hit anything more than 1/3 it's caliber

 

like for example 10 layers of 3 mm spaced armor armor with 0mm of tank armor underneath so anything will do damage. All sub 30mm guns should be mitigatable but 31mm+ should damage the armor because it overmatches the armor individually.


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Junk_Fuel #8 Posted 15 January 2016 - 03:00 AM

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The anko is absolutely amazing.  The voice just makes the tank.  

Got my ace in the third battle with it. 

 

http://m.imgur.com/a/jbu1Q

 

Bounced a 152 shell with mine off the side. If that is any help lol


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T34>>>>Anko

 

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View PostXeraux, on 14 January 2016 - 06:52 PM, said:

I've no problem with these stupid anime tanks as long as they stay the hell away from PC.

Yep. Just as cancerous as the player base


 


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View PostDead_Fr0g, on 14 January 2016 - 10:00 PM, said:

The anko is absolutely amazing.  The voice just makes the tank.  

Got my ace in the third battle with it. 

 

http://m.imgur.com/a/jbu1Q

 

Bounced a 152 shell with mine off the side. If that is any help lol

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View Postchessredpanda, on 15 January 2016 - 03:01 AM, said:

T34>>>>Anko

T34=Tier 8 heavy tank


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View PostKlaus_Klavier, on 15 January 2016 - 03:04 AM, said:

HE?

 

don't think so. No splash. Figured he would give a little

 


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View PostAlakazamfan1, on 14 January 2016 - 10:02 PM, said:

Yep. Just as cancerous as the player base

I'm sorry you are just a MASSIVE hypocrite

 

you talk about how "cancerous" anime is well you know what else is "cancerous"? Hating a genre of entertainment simply because you've think it's weird or dumb and just assume the entire populace who enjoys it is Inferior to you. 

 

Because I see people do that a lot.

 

hating on stuff for no reason other than "I see it everywhere and I don't like it therefore no one should like it"

 

 

so yeah. You're just as much of a cancer as anime fans are. A big malignant inoperable one at the base of the skull. That's you. You're just as bad as us because the more we multiply the more people like you multiply. 

 

 


 

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View PostRyan_Dazel, on 14 January 2016 - 09:06 PM, said:

T34=Tier 8 heavy tank

 

T-34 >>>>>>>>>>>> ANko

 

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View PostKlaus_Klavier, on 14 January 2016 - 07:11 PM, said:

I'm sorry you are just a MASSIVE hypocrite

 

you talk about how "cancerous" anime is well you know what else is "cancerous"? Hating a genre of entertainment simply because you've think it's weird or dumb and just assume the entire populace who enjoys it is Inferior to you. 

 

Because I see people do that a lot.

 

hating on stuff for no reason other than "I see it everywhere and I don't like it therefore no one should like it"

 

 

so yeah. You're just as much of a cancer as anime fans are. A big malignant inoperable one at the base of the skull. That's you. You're just as bad as us because the more we multiply the more people like you multiply. 

 

 

Sorry for having an opinion. Never said I am better than the people who like anime. I'll even admit right now you are a better player than I am

 

Edit: Oh and btw if you're gonna make a video, and present it to the public, I have every right to critique it in a negative or positive way


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View PostKlaus_Klavier, on 14 January 2016 - 07:11 PM, said:

I'm sorry you are just a MASSIVE hypocrite

 

you talk about how "cancerous" anime is well you know what else is "cancerous"? Hating a genre of entertainment simply because you've think it's weird or dumb and just assume the entire populace who enjoys it is Inferior to you. 

 

Because I see people do that a lot.

 

hating on stuff for no reason other than "I see it everywhere and I don't like it therefore no one should like it"

 

 

so yeah. You're just as much of a cancer as anime fans are. A big malignant inoperable one at the base of the skull. That's you. You're just as bad as us because the more we multiply the more people like you multiply. 

 

 

You're so funny. :D


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View PostXeraux, on 14 January 2016 - 10:18 PM, said:

You're so funny. :D

You can't tell me it's not true though. 

 

To assume one is cancer because they like something that you don't is cancerous in itself because it becomes popular to hate things

 

 

boil it Down to as follows

 

Love is cancer because it's spreads

 

hate is cancer because it's spreads

 

 


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These anime tanks are really annoying to see. They're just eyesores.

 

Criticize me for being an anime hater or whatever but I'm pretty sure adding cartoon tanks doesn't quite fit with the rest of the tanks. Also, if Wargaming is willing to make adolescent girl commander voices from some obscure anime why can't they make different voices for the regular crews?






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