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Object 140 Soviet Russian Medium

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A7X0 #1 Posted 21 March 2016 - 10:32 PM

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This tank gave me my first 8K match ever in 22K games.

 


 

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Edited by A7X0, 21 March 2016 - 11:09 PM.

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E 100, IS-7, T-62A, Jg. Pz. E 100, T110E3, T110E5[Guide], Object 268FV215b, E 50 M[Guide], IS-4FV4202, Object 140[Guide]M48 Patton, T110E4, STB-1

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reluctanttheist #3 Posted 21 March 2016 - 10:37 PM

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If you prefer this over the T-62a, say - why so?  Would not the T-62a given you as good a match?

Edited by reluctanttheist, 21 March 2016 - 10:38 PM.

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Ryan_Dazel #5 Posted 21 March 2016 - 10:40 PM

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And then they go Nerf the E-100. WG's ignorance is beyond me

I like turtlez


HESHSlingingSplasher #6 Posted 21 March 2016 - 10:40 PM

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Nice try but paying for your stats isn't going to work.  

Ryan_Dazel #7 Posted 21 March 2016 - 10:44 PM

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View PostRellyx, on 21 March 2016 - 10:40 PM, said:

Nice try but paying for your stats isn't going to work.  

 


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A7X0 #8 Posted 21 March 2016 - 10:45 PM

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View Postreluctanttheist, on 21 March 2016 - 02:37 PM, said:

If you prefer this over the T-62a, say - why so?  Would not the T-62a given you as good a match?

 

1. Better hull armor that can reach autobounce angle quite easily and bounce Tier X TDs sometimes

2. 5 km/h faster

3. A degree more of gun depression

4. More side and rear armor (T-62s can't HE your rear but you can HE theirs, only why I'm including this)

5. Feels much more durable in general


  underlined = click!

E 100, IS-7, T-62A, Jg. Pz. E 100, T110E3, T110E5[Guide], Object 268FV215b, E 50 M[Guide], IS-4FV4202, Object 140[Guide]M48 Patton, T110E4, STB-1

4014 average damage in Obj. 140, 4055 average damage in T110E4


reluctanttheist #9 Posted 21 March 2016 - 10:45 PM

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Awesome - thanks man!

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Ksftwe #10 Posted 21 March 2016 - 10:49 PM

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Nice hit rate.

 

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_DragonKRIEG #11 Posted 21 March 2016 - 11:05 PM

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*repost* http://forum.wotblit...j-140-vs-t-62a/

 

Obj 140 is better because it has good hull armor, in addition to a strong turret. The turret may have a 30 mm top and 2 cupolas, but for the skilled player wiggling them and throwing off enemy aim (especially the auto-Aimers) should be no problem. The Obj 140 has better accuracy FIRING ON THE MOVE (less dispersion when moving turret and whole tank) which is what a medium needs since mediums spend more time moving than sitting still. It means when you poke out to take the shot in a peek-a-boom tactic, your reticle will start off smaller (not by much but *in Russian Wargaming developer voice* Every little bit counts!) than the T-62A. 

 

Another advantage the 140 has over the 62A is actual hull armor, as mentioned before. The 140's upper plate is sloped at about 67 degrees which effectively makes it about 250 mm thick. If you know how to angle, you will easily add 10+ mm to that and be able to bounce most tier 10 heavies unless they get a high pen roll (RNG also makes a difference in penetration, 75%-125% of average penetration value (100%) that should explain some of the *HOWWW????* troll bounces). Now the T-62A has the same sloping as the T-54, at 60 degrees, but the plate is only 102 mm thick (120 on T-54) and double that (60 degree angle doubles the thickness, 70 degrees triples it if not auto bounces it) and you end up with 204 mm of armor. You can angle your armor, but in order to be able to bounce shots you would expose your sprocket wheel and side armor and the 140 doesn't. Angling without exposing side armor (this can be covered up by a Ridgeline) still doesn't bounce shots like the 140 does.

 

Now on we move to mobility. The T-62A gets best in class traverse, but the 140 isn't far behind. 54 degrees/second on 140 isn't far behind 56 on T-62A. Now the big thing is that the Obj. 140 has a 56 kmh top speed, compared to 50 on the T-62A. The 140 also has a better power to weight ratio because it is a whole ton lighter. The T-62A may have better traverse and ground resistance, but the 140 is overall the faster tank. 

 

I think I should also mention the turrets of both tanks. The T-62A has better turret armor, that's a fact. But, in exchange for a 30 mm roof, you get -6 gun depression instead of -5 on T-54 and T-62A. Most of you wouldn't notice the difference it makes as you would be used to -5 by now, but sometimes it allows you to pull off shots that you wouldn't be able to otherwise (firing from a bush at the castle in Castilla when you're the last one alive and enemy is capping) There are some people (they know what they're doing) told me that the 140's turret is more resistant to HEAT rounds and from my experience shooting at them, I agree with that.

 

So to sum things up, the 140 is a better tank because it's faster and it has better hull armor. The guns of both tanks are pretty much the same except in accuracy (62A better sitting still, 140 better on the move). Most super unicums would agree with me in saying the 140 is the better tank of the two.

 

Edited by TheFluffyPinkDragon, Today, 05:55 PM.



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FlammeumDraco333 #13 Posted 21 March 2016 - 11:17 PM

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WTH, plz nerf Russian meds.

View PostSystemrename, on 03 February 2015 - 04:06 PM, said:

Whatever, since people seem content with the plain oleophobic coating and dragging their meaty, calloused workman's thumbs around like proto-lizards sliding up out of the primordial ooze onto dry land, it's just more for me.  I'm happy to float on fiber and run circles around you filthy casuals. Eat my dust, snail thumbs.

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Camoisland #14 Posted 21 March 2016 - 11:27 PM

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View PostRyan_Dazel, on 21 March 2016 - 02:40 PM, said:

And then they go Nerf the E-100. WG's ignorance is beyond me

 

fully this

mandingomandingo #15 Posted 21 March 2016 - 11:52 PM

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L1LBunnyFooFoo_ #16 Posted 22 March 2016 - 12:25 AM

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Doomsturtle #17 Posted 22 March 2016 - 02:50 PM

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Hey is that your highest exp game you've ever had too? Or have you done that before?

Excel_Spreadsheet #18 Posted 22 March 2016 - 04:10 PM

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Now i know why I haven't mastered it...

 

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*looks at own 140 stats*

*sees 3k average damage*

*sees he's got a better WR in it completely solo*

*accepts that I'll never be as good as A7X0*


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