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[Content_WG]

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[_JadeX]

A little late Wargaming....

[bwalker0312]

E100 profitability is a joke. Is7 too. guess we will be playing 183s 7vs7

Edited by bwalker0312, 29 March 2016 - 05:48 PM.

[wannabeunicum]

Nearly everything is a joke

Just wg catering to the nubs

[DysfunctionalDiversion]

ERMERGERD YUS

[OKA_BOCTOKA]

The more credits, the better.

[acrisis]

As stated in the other topic on this matter. I completely do not trust many aspects of this where tanks like a T-54 and IS-8 get a -12% and -19% credit earnings ...

 

I understand adjusting some upwards to bring them in line and reducing crazy repair costs, it has seemed very arbitrary where some tanks earn a lot less than others - at the same time as a player we NEVER get the full picture of per tank profitability, ammo costs, repair costs etc. I'm perfectly happy to see some will get a credit boost. Happy an average player will get a bit more credits due to savings in repairs cots ................ but to say that I'm going to be making -12% and -19% gross income per game in tier IX ?!
 

Part of the data on the forum as it relates to tier 9 ...

 

• 9 level
   

  • 100.6% T-54
  • 98.1% E 50
  • 97.9% IS-8
  • 96.4% E 75
  • 96.3% M46 Patton
  • 95.3% M103
  • 92.3% T95
  • 91.6% Jagdtiger
  • 87.5% Object 704
  • 77.0% Tortoise
  • 76.7% Conqueror
  • 75.0% Leopard Prototyp A
  • 74.5% VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. B
  • 74.4% Centurion Mk. 7/1
  • 70.3% ST-I
  • 66.2% T30

 

T-54    100%  - 12   ==> 88% 

IS-8      98%  - 19   ==> 79%

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• 10 level
   

  • 98.6% IS-7
  • 98.1% T-62A
  • 97.1% E 100
  • 95.3% T110E5
  • 95.2% M48A1 Patton
  • 94.9% E 50 Ausf. M
  • 90.2% Jagdpanzer E 100
  • 88.3% T110E3
  • 86.4% Object 268
  • 80.0% Object 140
  • 79.0% Leopard 1
  • 78.3% FV4202
  • 76.9% Maus
  • 75.6% FV215b
  • 73.3% IS-4
  • 57.1% T110E4
  • 56.0% FV215b (183)

 

 

IS-7  98.6 - 23 = 75.6%

T-62A   98.1 - 13 = 85.1%

 

Which is supposed to be offset by some 5k - 10k less vehicle repair costs?!

I might as well stop playing, right now. 

 

Fact remains that for above average players, the repair cost is somewhat negated by staying alive and surviving. And the biggest cost is $$$$ premium ammo as -1 and -2 + consumables. So, if you are a carry harder kinda guy who uses the tools at his disposal ... -10% and -20% gross income right off the batt on 75k - 100k + on a good to great game, is a HUGE credit nerf, for those playing to win, as best as they can.

 

I guess we have to thank you for buffing the noobs and nerfing the most motivated tankers in your player base. 

 

 

Edited by acrisis, 29 March 2016 - 07:34 PM.

[wannabeunicum]

DysfunctionalDiversion, on 29 March 2016 - 05:48 PM, said:

ERMERGERD YUS

 

Look again at the jadgpanther lol

[Sure_man_tank]

This has made it harder for good players to make money while making it easier for poor players to lose less money while still dying. 

[reluctanttheist]

I think we'll have to pass judgement after the update, but on the face of it this does not seem like a step in the right direction for many tanks.

[Helzen]

Premium tanks not effected? Then why is the Pz special on the list? It's a premium and its loosing credits? 

[Kiser_Sosei]

reluctanttheist, on 29 March 2016 - 11:56 AM, said:

I think we'll have to pass judgement after the update, but on the face of it this does not seem like a step in the right direction for many tanks.

 

I agree 100%. Thanks WG for choosing $ over your player satisfaction.

[quasar_kid]

Bottom line: Compared to the old Credit earnings sticky, they have reduced many of the crdit earnings disparities between tanks.  To many of us, those appeared pretty arbitrary in the first place.

 

I'm neutral on the recent adjustments.  I do think they could have marketed the adjustment a whole hell of a lot better.

 

'We are reducing the spread between tanks on our mysterious credit modifiers in the game economic model in the interest of fairness'

 

sounds a hell of a lot better than

 

'Average and below players are finding it too expensive to play upper tiers so we are going to make it easier for them'.

 

even though the end result is probably the same.

 

-qk

[thebrossassinator]

I just looked at a few battles from my T-54 from last night and the changes are about net neutral...  still does not help my HEAT addiction.  WG, could you lower the cost of HEAT rounds

[wannabeunicum]

Thing is a good player should die rarely and a bad player dies a lot so whos aves more?

[dilusions]

jpanther credit nerf 

[AW1228]

Eh, I don't mind the update, the Leo 1 gets a profitability increase and a repair cost reduction.  If you get hit it's guaranteed to cost you cause its armour is paper.

 

Edited by AW1228, 29 March 2016 - 06:36 PM.

[quasar_kid]

wannabeunicum, on 29 March 2016 - 01:05 PM, said:

Thing is a good player should die rarely and a bad player dies a lot so whos aves more?

 

Most of the really good players are sitting on tens of millions of credits and little or nothing to spend them on.  The bad player isn't.  Those really good players aren't going to be held back by the adjustment in earnings.  The bad players are clearly benefited by it.

 

If I was wargaming I would want to hold on to as many players as possible, regardless of their skill level.  This appears to be one reasonable way to go about achieving that.

 

-qk

 

 

[Celestial_Emperor]

This is unfair to the more seasoned players, who can keep most of the hit points after battles - so the overall credit making is actually reduced.

[Libereco]

This kills the playerbase