You won't get spotted unless you fire they said...
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You can hide your tank behind concealment they said...
Started by RH_131, May 15 2016 04:34 PM
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#1 Posted 15 May 2016 - 04:34 PM
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#2 Posted 15 May 2016 - 04:50 PM
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I think you got spotted since you move your vehicle at least once while he was close range. Also proximity spotting, he has crew skills, or equipment.
#3 Posted 15 May 2016 - 04:56 PM
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Actually when any tank is with in I think it's 50m no matter the line if site your tank will be spotted. It's in the pre battle tutorials.
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#4 Posted 15 May 2016 - 05:00 PM
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Ausf_G, on 15 May 2016 - 08:56 AM, said:
Actually when any tank is with in I think it's 50m no matter the line if site your tank will be spotted. It's in the pre battle tutorials.
That picture is a su-100 more than 100m away from the tiger p.
#5 Posted 15 May 2016 - 05:06 PM
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Possibly a lucky blind shot? More likely he had full provisions and Vents and you traversed the hull a little and he spotted you.
#6 Posted 15 May 2016 - 05:11 PM
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Your active camouflage has to recharge so you took a arrow to the hull.
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#7 Posted 15 May 2016 - 05:12 PM
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That tank is about 141 meters away from the Tiger P, and Tiger P has 250 mm view range.
#8 Posted 15 May 2016 - 05:13 PM
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It is indeed all lies. Bushes DO NOT guarantee concealment. And to be (almost) exact, that Tiger (P) was about 141m away from him, so it's not proximity spotted.
What bushes do is inflate your camouflage. Let's say that you hide behind a thick bush that gives you 30% extra camo value. An SU-100 has a camo value of 13% when moving, so when it moves into the bush, it has a camo value of 43%. The Tiger (P) has a base viewrange of 250. Let's assume he has both crew provisions. His 250m view range increases to 266m. 43% of that, which is 114, is negated, which means he has an effective viewrange of 152m, more than the 141m needed to spot you.
Don't trust bushes too much. And don't trust them at all in close-quarters combat.
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#9 Posted 15 May 2016 - 05:16 PM
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TheFluffyPinkDragon, on 15 May 2016 - 01:12 PM, said:
That tank is about 141 meters away from the Tiger P, and Tiger P has 250 mm view range.
That isn't the entire story because you need to factor in camo.
Faber711, on 15 May 2016 - 01:11 PM, said:
Your active camouflage has to recharge so you took a arrow to the hull.
You still get camo while moving, and the bushes always conceal you better except when you fire.
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BryoDoesGaming, on 15 May 2016 - 12:13 PM, said:
It is indeed all lies. Bushes DO NOT guarantee concealment. And to be (almost) exact, that Tiger (P) was about 141m away from him, so it's not proximity spotted.
What bushes do is inflate your camouflage. Let's say that you hide behind a thick bush that gives you 30% extra camo value. An SU-100 has a camo value of 13% when moving, so when it moves into the bush, it has a camo value of 43%. The Tiger (P) has a base viewrange of 250. Let's assume he has both crew provisions. His 250m view range increases to 266m. 43% of that, which is 114, is negated, which means he has an effective viewrange of 152m, more than the 141m needed to spot you.
Don't trust bushes too much. And don't trust them at all in close-quarters combat.
Where are you getting these camo values from, it says nothing about that in the details in the garage.
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BryoDoesGaming, on 15 May 2016 - 12:16 PM, said:
That isn't the entire story because you need to factor in camo.
You still get camo while moving, and the bushes always conceal you better except when you fire.
SU-100's camo is great, but it's not good enough to that level.
#12 Posted 15 May 2016 - 05:27 PM
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I have had a moving Heavy spot my Dragon behind a bush(also have plus 18% camo from crew skills) before I see him. No I did not just shoot ether. I have been testing this in TR rooms and Camo may not be working as intended.
#13 Posted 15 May 2016 - 05:39 PM
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I couldn't spot a tog on top of the hill but he could spot me on the move 100 meters away in dragon.
I also flanked a Leo trying to spot and using his camo behind concealment in an is4
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TheFluffyPinkDragon, on 15 May 2016 - 01:26 PM, said:
SU-100's camo is great, but it's not good enough to that level.
I'm not saying that, I'm just saying that the OP won't understand your post.
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