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thermodelicious #41 Posted 06 June 2016 - 04:38 AM

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Use the auto-cannon on the A-20 it shreds the enemy something fierce. Empty that clip into someone and they feel it.

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Agree 100%.  And if one is good, two is better. 

 

To this end, here's another video of Nate and I playing in our A-20s that I thought you might find helpful:

 


Edited by Leadf00t, 15 June 2016 - 06:55 AM.


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I solved the entire problem of A-20 beng bad tank by using free XP to get past that paticular tank which I rarely do since I like grinding though tanks the normal way, but a very small handful of tanks needed to be skipped... Lol

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View Postpanzermk6, on 15 May 2016 - 05:03 PM, said:

 

If you think the A-20 is good, you've clearly never played the Panzer III. Frontal armor of a Matilda flying at 60km/h with great DPM. Literally better than the A-20 in essentially every way.

 

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I've never played the Panzer III, but it does seem to be one of the harder tanks to kill.

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View PostHizzoner, on 19 May 2016 - 12:29 AM, said:

Thanks...trying to remediate my awful a20 wr now so I can figure out the t34, which is a mystery to me still. At tier v I have been doing much better on the m4 than the t34 and expected to be about equal wr. Decided to not use the auto as I ultimately hope to comprehend the t34 gun and play style 

 

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Oicraftian #47 Posted 16 June 2016 - 03:42 PM

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T-34 57 = Best tier 5 tank, max out DPM for superior soviet chainsaw. Once you catch a tank with it's pants down. Don't. Stop. Shooting. 

I am not particularly great in this tank, but I think I have the credentials to review it

 

A-20 was very fun with the 76mm gun, I had it a good while back. So much fun, haha tinfoil you had, HE I used. 200 hp you lost.


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90% of players are scrubs, 80% are incapable of making intelligent decisions, 70% don't understand they are so bad they are effectively team killing, 60% can't drive in a straight line, and~ 50% are worthless.

If your win-rate is less than 60% (unpadded) and you make an opinion other than that of what is known, you're probably wrong.


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View PostHizzoner, on 20 May 2016 - 07:39 PM, said:

Here is another a 20 question...any tips or thoughts on how to improve shooting of the run? Trying to get out of the habit of stopping to shoot...it usually means trading hit points and that is no way to play fast light tanks...especially out in the open...thanks

 

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I've been playing a game in the training rooms to learn how to shoot accurately while on the move.

 

Friendly-Fire turned ON. Total free-for-all. Everyone has to play in arcade mode. NO GOING INTO SNIPE.

It's hilarious, and chaotic and fun, and really...really hard. Aand a great way to learn how to shoot while moving.

The more players you have in the training room, the more crazy fun it is.

 

I have to point out tho.. we noticed that auto fire seems unwilling to lock onto green tanks. So in that respect, it's like playing with auto aim off.

Anyways.. give it a try.

 

 


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I remember when I had my A-20 I used it so much. It is VERY fast and has 2 good guns. But penetration can be a problem with the rapid fire gun.

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View Postarman516, on 17 June 2016 - 08:11 AM, said:

But penetration can be a problem with the rapid fire gun.

 

Very true.  Don't leave the garage without lots of APCR.

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I recorded a few games in the A-20 a couple of days ago. Stay second line and never be afraid to shoot prammo with the autoloader, and you'll do just fine.

 

 

 



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No..... Even on Blitz many think that this tank sucks and "was only put in to discourage players from playing the Russian Medium line" Not true. I am one of the few who believe that the T-44 isn't a good tank (reason why I switched to the Russian heavy line) and also,

 

1. Pz. III can be flanked with ease, and not many people use these buggers

2. A-20 with 45mm has a very different play style from the T-34-57

3. Check my stats. I excel in playing the Russian medium line (as I said though, T-44 sucks too much)

 

 

EDIT: I don't spam APCR either. My standard loadout is 92 AP, 24 APCR (for those fight or die situations) 24 HE (for the T-82s, Medium IIIs, Alectos, etc.)


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View PostLeadf00t, on 15 June 2016 - 06:53 AM, said:

Agree 100%.  And if one is good, two is better. 

 

To this end, here's another video of Nate and I playing in our A-20s that I thought you might find helpful:

 

 

Yes. An A-20 platoon, when top tier and in the right hands essentially means auto-win for your team, BUT, when matched up against tier 5s, its autoloader can't pen a lot of tanks without APCR(something I don't spam) A good option IMHO, though would be a Pz. Kpwf. II Luchs and an A-20: Against tier fives, Luchs would cover fire while the A-20 flanks

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View Postclever_pseudonym, on 17 June 2016 - 05:14 PM, said:

I recorded a few games in the A-20 a couple of days ago. Stay second line and never be afraid to shoot prammo with the autoloader, and you'll do just fine.

 

 

 

 

Impressive rounds!  Thanks for sharing.

 

And sorry, again, for leaving you hanging out to dry a few weeks ago on Black Goldville....every time I see one of your posts I'm reminded of our blunder.  :(


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View Postmichaeltsoon, on 18 June 2016 - 10:38 PM, said:

 

Yes. An A-20 platoon, when top tier and in the right hands essentially means auto-win for your team, BUT, when matched up against tier 5s, its autoloader can't pen a lot of tanks without APCR(something I don't spam) A good option IMHO, though would be a Pz. Kpwf. II Luchs and an A-20: Against tier fives, Luchs would cover fire while the A-20 flanks

 

You're absolutely right, when overmatched, you really need to break out the APCR if you want to be effective in an A-20.

 

My toon mate and I are planning on experimenting pairing an A20 with other tanks to see what works and what doesn't, and as fate would have it he's working his way up the German tree right now.  We'll try the Luchs to see how it works out.  Thanks for the tip.


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View PostLeadf00t, on 18 June 2016 - 09:56 AM, said:

 

Impressive rounds!  Thanks for sharing.

 

And sorry, again, for leaving you hanging out to dry a few weeks ago on Black Goldville....every time I see one of your posts I'm reminded of our blunder.  :(

If it makes you feel any better, I don't remember it. We all potato now and again. (After which I might rage a bit)



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I run the A-20 playing peek-a-boom primarily. I do not use the auto loader. The 76mm gun has decent penetration and most importantly GREAT ALPHA for it's tier. That means I use cover a lot - peek out and aim carefully, shoot, and hide behind cover. Count to 10 for camo to reset, and do it again. It does not have great penetration, so carry plenty of premium ammo.

 

Sure you can win with the other gun and a more mobile strategy, but guns with lots of per shot damage are just better in most situations because you get that up-front first shot damage in without getting shot back, where high DPM lower per shot damage guns require you to be in the open to actually use that DPM. If I'm going to carry in a tier V match I want the 76mm every time.


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Hmmm..... You probably DO have a point, but I prefer the auto-loader, as in my experiences, when put in a tier 3 battle it almost means auto-win for you. In tier 5 battles you can just..... Well flank. It does have a top speed of 72 km(almost never reachable, btw). Also, it plays the role of light tank/TD killer very well in tier 5 battles(when i see a Chi-Nu, T49, PZ.IV, SU-85, or even a STUG I start cackling with laughter. With good reasons too, as I pump 6 shots of c.250 damage into their rear.....) 

 

Also, Lephturn we can platoon for a few games just to see how it works out (I know, I've terrible stats), even though I still think that the Luchs would be an A-20's ideal platoon mate.


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View Postmichaeltsoon, on 23 June 2016 - 07:24 PM, said:

I prefer the auto-loader, as in my experiences, when put in a tier 3 battle it almost means auto-win for you. In tier 5 battles you can just..... Well flank spam APCR.

 

FTFY :D

 

I am a bit curious about how many of the top 50 drivers (by average damage) don't use the autoloader.  Average damage for #50 is about 960.



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View PostLephturn, on 24 June 2016 - 04:59 AM, said:

I run the A-20 playing peek-a-boom primarily. I do not use the auto loader. The 76mm gun has decent penetration and most importantly GREAT ALPHA for it's tier. That means I use cover a lot - peek out and aim carefully, shoot, and hide behind cover. Count to 10 for camo to reset, and do it again. It does not have great penetration, so carry plenty of premium ammo.

 

Sure you can win with the other gun and a more mobile strategy, but guns with lots of per shot damage are just better in most situations because you get that up-front first shot damage in without getting shot back, where high DPM lower per shot damage guns require you to be in the open to actually use that DPM. If I'm going to carry in a tier V match I want the 76mm every time.

 

While you have a hell of a lot more experience than I do in this game, we seem to be fairly similar in terms of statistics, yet there's quite a gap between us in this tank:

 

You:

 

Me:

 

Some of that gap could be because I tend to run this tank in a platoon -- or it could be the gun -- but ultimately I guess it comes down to personal preference in terms of the gun and the resulting play style. 

 

I do know one thing for sure, as soon as I went to the auto-loader my win rate and stats went way up, but YMMV.

 

Take care...Leadfoot

 

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