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_Blento_ #1 Posted 02 June 2016 - 01:20 PM

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So we all know that there are loads of folks having aimbots, fire tracers or other enhancements installed on their devices. While installing those mods IMO is bad and very woosie approach, the worst is that these players will never ever admit using them. Some of them are  less and some are well known players. With Clan wars being done on our own, these enhancements are taking leap advantage in some battles.

 

What can WG do about it? The solution is VERY simple yet WG is doing nothing. 

 

Regardless on environment where it is played, Blitz is a server based game. This game has to be downloaded from App or Google store and hence it comes with its digital signature e.g. it comes with EXACT app size for all Android and similarly the EXACT same size for all iOS devices. The size of those two apps might be different but that is not the point. Many out there call this size relevance as  "digital signature" - not exactly the correct term but you get the point. The size for iOS software is always the same regardless if you play on iPadPro or iPhone 4s. The size of the app does not change. Same rules applies for Android (although the app size might vary in occasions for different Android devices since Android supports multiple CPUs ... but that is still trivial)

 

Every mod that is installed in jailbroken iOS devices or in Android, changes the overall app size (by increasing its overall db footprint) AND (what is important) it also adds the date when that mod has been applied. 

 

On the other size, once we log into WG / Blitz, WG basically can determine what device type we use, what CPU ... just about anything related to this game. What WG should do is to check the size of the app and if the app size deviates form its official size do not allow player to connect to the server or leave him in garage and give him message why he can't connect. This rule of this kind of checks have been used in many industries (banking, casinos, etc) and it is VERY EFFECTIVE.

 

The other option would be to install a small pgm with the game that would check the file count or perform some other check before connection to server is done. 

 

I am sure WG has smart dudes to know what can be done. yet they do nothing. And "super unicums" remain to swear they do not use it . 

 

Time to act WG !!!!

 

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sjhbrown09 #2 Posted 02 June 2016 - 01:41 PM

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pretty sure the only mods for blitz are hitskins

r4zrbl4de #3 Posted 02 June 2016 - 01:54 PM

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The only illegal possible mod for blitz is a hitskin that shows where modules are on a tank, allowing people to aim for ammoracks, engines, etc. it's not possible to hack the game in any other way because most of it is controlled by Wargaming in its servers.

 

 

 


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View Postsjhbrown09, on 02 June 2016 - 01:41 PM, said:

pretty sure the only mods for blitz are hitskins

 

No :-) ... I wish. Beside hitskins, they are mostly Aim locks and fire traces. Basically, aim locks allows you to lock your gun on enemy tank while you focus on driving. The lock is on the center of the tank and  you might miss / bounce some but you do not care about aiming - just driving. 

Hit skins will tell you where to shoot to kill the crew or make an ammo rack but the success depends on your crew skills and level you have there. 

Fire traces will reveal who shots on you from where even if you can't spot them since they run cammo (equipment) and have cammo consumables installed. 

 

Those are worst ... there are few more that are not geared up toward game performance enhancement rather geared up for appearance. 



_Blento_ #5 Posted 02 June 2016 - 01:59 PM

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View Postr4zrbl4de, on 02 June 2016 - 01:54 PM, said:

. it's not possible to hack the game in any other way because most of it is controlled by Wargaming in its servers.

Not true. You are generally correct but that aspect of the game is not controlled by the server. 



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View PostB_L_E_N_T_O, on 02 June 2016 - 06:57 AM, said:

 

No :-) ... I wish. Beside hitskins, they are mostly Aim locks and fire traces. Basically, aim locks allows you to lock your gun on enemy tank while you focus on driving. The lock is on the center of the tank and  you might miss / bounce some but you do not care about aiming - just driving. 

Hit skins will tell you where to shoot to kill the crew or make an ammo rack but the success depends on your crew skills and level you have there. 

Fire traces will reveal who shots on you from where even if you can't spot them since they run cammo (equipment) and have cammo consumables installed. 

 

Those are worst ... there are few more that are not geared up toward game performance enhancement rather geared up for appearance. 

 

Even if there was aim lock, it wouldn't be illegal considering that's a vanilla feature of WoT. 

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After some you tube searching, never seen the mods you speak of, only hitskins.

Do you have any evidence? A link we could see.


 

When I'm playing out there I find that I'm not encountering sub par players that are performing well. Can't just be re-rolls who would use these mods. We'd see more 40%ers pulling off games like the 60-65% ers do as they start using these mods.


 

Not convinced its a huge problem.


 

However a system that can detect mods would be a good thing for WG to get ahead of. The OP's idea seems solid enough to work.


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View PostB_L_E_N_T_O, on 02 June 2016 - 08:57 AM, said:

 

No :-) ... I wish. Beside hitskins, they are mostly Aim locks and fire traces. Basically, aim locks allows you to lock your gun on enemy tank while you focus on driving. The lock is on the center of the tank and  you might miss / bounce some but you do not care about aiming - just driving. 

Hit skins will tell you where to shoot to kill the crew or make an ammo rack but the success depends on your crew skills and level you have there. 

Fire traces will reveal who shots on you from where even if you can't spot them since they run cammo (equipment) and have cammo consumables installed. 

 

Those are worst ... there are few more that are not geared up toward game performance enhancement rather geared up for appearance. 

 

Your "aimlock" is the autoaim already included in our client.

 

Can you tell us where you heard about these fire tracker "hacks" and prove that anyone uses them?


 


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I agree with the OP. Why not implement this to prevent hacks/cheats. I had a game on Falls Creek in my Defender. I was last on my team with a lone T28 on red. He was in cap and we were one shots for each other. He fires and I know he did, because I say the smoke out of the barrel and the round hit the ground in front of me. So, I immediately roll forward and aim to shoot, but the T28 instantly fires and kills me. Right before that he said he wouldn't fire again (I didn't believe him), and that is why I baited the shot. I am not sure it is a cheat, but it sure smelled fishy to me. My platoon mate saw the same thing.


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View PostB_L_E_N_T_O, on 02 June 2016 - 05:20 AM, said:

So we all know that there are loads of folks having aimbots, fire tracers or other enhancements installed on their devices. While installing those mods IMO is bad and very woosie approach, the worst is that these players will never ever admit using them. Some of them are  less and some are well known players. With Clan wars being done on our own, these enhancements are taking leap advantage in some battles.

 

What can WG do about it? The solution is VERY simple yet WG is doing nothing. 

 

Regardless on environment where it is played, Blitz is a server based game. This game has to be downloaded from App or Google store and hence it comes with its digital signature e.g. it comes with EXACT app size for all Android and similarly the EXACT same size for all iOS devices. The size of those two apps might be different but that is not the point. Many out there call this size relevance as  "digital signature" - not exactly the correct term but you get the point. The size for iOS software is always the same regardless if you play on iPadPro or iPhone 4s. The size of the app does not change. Same rules applies for Android (although the app size might vary in occasions for different Android devices since Android supports multiple CPUs ... but that is still trivial)

 

Every mod that is installed in jailbroken iOS devices or in Android, changes the overall app size (by increasing its overall db footprint) AND (what is important) it also adds the date when that mod has been applied. 

 

On the other size, once we log into WG / Blitz, WG basically can determine what device type we use, what CPU ... just about anything related to this game. What WG should do is to check the size of the app and if the app size deviates form its official size do not allow player to connect to the server or leave him in garage and give him message why he can't connect. This rule of this kind of checks have been used in many industries (banking, casinos, etc) and it is VERY EFFECTIVE.

 

The other option would be to install a small pgm with the game that would check the file count or perform some other check before connection to server is done. 

 

I am sure WG has smart dudes to know what can be done. yet they do nothing. And "super unicums" remain to swear they do not use it . 

 

Time to act WG !!!!

 

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View Postpasdxd, on 02 June 2016 - 06:13 AM, said:

 

Your "aimlock" is the autoaim already included in our client.

 

Can you tell us where you heard about these fire tracker "hacks" and prove that anyone uses them?

 

These "hacks" is only affected in the client, not the server. These traces just brighten up the tracers built in the game so its easier to see who fired. You can find them at some youtube channels. I think one of pixelragegames videos has them.

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Blento, bro they have the unfair (in my opinion) auto aim/target lock if you play blitz on PC. M16, lorrenzo me and Rebox were testing it... It gives a serious advantage! not only that it locks on the target and you dont have to turn the turret manually IT AUTO LEADS for you!!! Another words it calculates the speed of another tank and shoots with a lead assuring you a 99.9% hit. If they will not bring it to mobile, and not get rid of it on PC blitz, I think we should not let PC players partake in Clan wars, unless they play on mobile. 

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View PostABN_Bearcat, on 02 June 2016 - 09:19 AM, said:

I agree with the OP. Why not implement this to prevent hacks/cheats. I had a game on Falls Creek in my Defender. I was last on my team with a lone T28 on red. He was in cap and we were one shots for each other. He fires and I know he did, because I say the smoke out of the barrel and the round hit the ground in front of me. So, I immediately roll forward and aim to shoot, but the T28 instantly fires and kills me. Right before that he said he wouldn't fire again (I didn't believe him), and that is why I baited the shot. I am not sure it is a cheat, but it sure smelled fishy to me. My platoon mate saw the same thing.

 

If he had the 90mm, he probably would have had the ROF to reload that fast. 

 

Or course, if there was a dead tank in the vicinity, there is a bug/glitch where smoke randomly comes out of the barrel. 


 


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Is anyone that's actually good at this game really worried about cheaters? I mean, the top 200 players don't cheat so if the scrub wants to scrub it out even more who cares. 


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Aim-lock sucks on PC. If the enemy tanks is stationary, it prevents you from actually aiming for vulnerable areas. 

I never use it. 

And the rest of these mods that the OP speaks of, simply don't exist. 

I tried my hardest to find them, searched in English, Russian etc etc all of the usual android hacking forums... not a thing. 

So not sure what the heck OP was smoking...but that is some serious tinfoil hat stuff. 

Give us an evidence of these "loads of folks using aimbots, fire tracers, hitskins..."


Not to mention that the few hitskin mods I've found are outdated by at least 3 version and won't work on current 2.9 version. 


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There is one thing I have learned from online games, especially ones that can be played across multiple platforms, is that if you aren't cheating you aren't trying hard enough.  There are enough people out there that get off on winning via cheating that they will do it until the end of time and try to pass it off as skill.  Call it an inferiority complex, this is the only place that they can feel powerful and important, even if it is because they have an unfair advantage.  It is naïve to think that cheats/hacks cannot happen and that just because you don't know about them presently, they aren't used and don't exist.  Its happening, guarantee it.  Anything to make it more difficult for cheaters should be implemented even if it is just precautionary.

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View Postthe_gamper, on 02 June 2016 - 09:44 AM, said:

There is one thing I have learned from online games, especially ones that can be played across multiple platforms, is that if you aren't cheating you aren't trying hard enough.  There are enough people out there that get off on winning via cheating that they will do it until the end of time and try to pass it off as skill.  Call it an inferiority complex, this is the only place that they can feel powerful and important, even if it is because they have an unfair advantage.  It is naïve to think that cheats/hacks cannot happen and that just because you don't know about them presently, they aren't used and don't exist.  Its happening, guarantee it.  Anything to make it more difficult for cheaters should be implemented even if it is just precautionary.

 

You shouldn't guarantee things you have no clue about. 

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Auto aim and fire tracers are already part of the game, aren't they?

 

The game gives you an option to have a toggle button for auto aim if you enable it.  And the red/black arrow already tell you which direction shots came from.

 

Is that what you're talking about?  If everyone already has it, how can it be a cheat?


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View Postthe_gamper, on 02 June 2016 - 09:44 AM, said:

There is one thing I have learned from online games, especially ones that can be played across multiple platforms, is that if you aren't cheating you aren't trying hard enough.  There are enough people out there that get off on winning via cheating that they will do it until the end of time and try to pass it off as skill.  Call it an inferiority complex, this is the only place that they can feel powerful and important, even if it is because they have an unfair advantage.  It is naïve to think that cheats/hacks cannot happen and that just because you don't know about them presently, they aren't used and don't exist.  Its happening, guarantee it.  Anything to make it more difficult for cheaters should be implemented even if it is just precautionary.

 

If you have the skills to successfully hack into WG's servers, you wouldn't be using them to hack into WG's servers. You'd be using it to hack into bank accounts. 

 

Even if you did hack into WG's servers and changed a tank's specs, all tanks on that server will then have those specifications. Your "cheat" would be rendered useless. 


 


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View PostThree60Mafia, on 02 June 2016 - 02:43 PM, said:

Aim-lock sucks on PC. If the enemy tanks is stationary, it prevents you from actually aiming for vulnerable areas. 

I never use it. 

And the rest of these mods that the OP speaks of, simply don't exist. 

I tried my hardest to find them, searched in English, Russian etc etc all of the usual android hacking forums... not a thing. 

So not sure what the heck OP was smoking...but that is some serious tinfoil hat stuff. 

Give us an evidence of these "loads of folks using aimbots, fire tracers, hitskins..."


Not to mention that the few hitskin mods I've found are outdated by at least 3 version and won't work on current 2.9 version. 

Good PC players use that auto lock very VERY good. We tested it in many different variations and even kv2 and 183 ( with slightly not accurate guns) come out with some great results. 

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