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_Blento_ #21 Posted 15 September 2016 - 02:06 AM

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Your footer is so wrong. Many more players have more tanks than you; Bribtb (had), ___Anon, myself, Hardy, ... many many more.

 

As for LTTB it is good as-is. Get used to it. Nobody said it will be easy tank to play. Sometimes we all need some challenges. Accept LTTB as a challenge tank.



_Crusader6_ #22 Posted 15 September 2016 - 02:08 AM

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Uhm

its op already with a decent driver 


 

 
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View Postpanzermk6, on 14 September 2016 - 10:03 PM, said:

I have 3.43 spots per battle, and unfortunately Blitz API doesn't track assisted damage, but that would be fairly high as well. The thing is, given the playerbase, they could have all 7 reds lit for all 7 minutes, and they still wouldn't be able to make use of that.

 

Not my point. What Bushka does is, he flanks around to their rears, stays around to take some shots or until some of them turn around, and put them into a crossfire (or what looks like a cross fire, you don't have to shoot), making it easier for your teammates.

 

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_34 #24 Posted 15 September 2016 - 02:28 AM

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View Postpanzermk6, on 14 September 2016 - 05:44 PM, said:

 

That's a gamebreaking weakness in a light tank though. The upper plate is still only ~160 effective when well angled, and most shells will punch through with ease. The turret is only like ~100mm effective, and EVERYTHING will go through that. If you can't put shots in the air quickly, you stand zero chance with that kind of thin armor. And let's not forget the LTTB still has lowest in tier HP, and lowest in tier gun depression. And the armor still isn't great. 

you say all this like you expect good armor from a light tank. newsflash: it's a light tank! light tanks typically dont have armor at all! their strength is in their mobility, and the LTTB has plenty of it...

 

also you should try all the guns before you make a forum rant. second gun has better aim time, rof, and gun depression than top gun.


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CptCheez #25 Posted 15 September 2016 - 02:30 AM

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View Post_34, on 14 September 2016 - 10:28 PM, said:

also you should try all the guns before you make a forum rant. second gun has better aim time, rof, and gun depression than top gun.

 

Not to mention 18% lower pen...but what am I saying.  Everyone just spams gold ammo nowadays anyway, so what does pen even matter anymore?

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VonMiller58 #26 Posted 15 September 2016 - 02:35 AM

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leave it as is

 

this thing can toast many a red in the right hands...I do good with it also

 

that insane speed and handling has to come with a sacrifice

 

I have sprayed a hundred LTTB top gun rounds in random areas and I still think it is fine.


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VonMiller58 #27 Posted 15 September 2016 - 02:36 AM

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View PostCptCheez, on 15 September 2016 - 02:30 AM, said:

 

Not to mention 18% lower pen...but what am I saying.  Everyone just spams gold ammo nowadays anyway, so what does pen even matter anymore?

 

I actually do mostly AP with the top gun...makes credits and wins that way...plus it looks hilarious

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View Postpanzermk6, on 14 September 2016 - 09:11 PM, said:

Disclaimer: LTTB is still super fun, I just think the gun needs a serious buff

 

On PC the LTTB is infamous for it's excellent gun handling and ferocious DPM. Then there's blitz, where the LTTB gets the EXACT opposite. It has the WORST DPM of all tier VII meds and lights except the T20. But it's still ~1800 DPM, not awful, but then there's the gun handling. 2.5 second aim time, and the bloom is horrific. To make matters worse, unlike some other meds and lights, you don't get to mount Vstab. This terrible gun handling makes missing shots fairly common, cutting into the already lowish DPM. And due to the bloom, if you want a chance at hitting anything, you have to sit still and aim for those 2.5 seconds, and the armor, while good for a light, isn't really going to stand up to heavies, and TDs, and most tier VII meds can pen you easily, especially if they load gold. Not being able to move for 2.5 seconds to hit shots is darn near impossible with that kind of armor.

 

The fact that 3 degrees of gun depression imo is balance enough, and 1000 HP is the lowest in the entire tier.

 

The SU-100M1 and E-25 have 970 HP dude.
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View PostVonMiller58, on 14 September 2016 - 10:36 PM, said:

I actually do mostly AP with the top gun...makes credits and wins that way...plus it looks hilarious

 

Right, because the top gun actually has decent pen for its tier.  _34 and I were talking about the middle gun, which has nearly 20% less pen than the top gun.

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RenegadeCommander #30 Posted 15 September 2016 - 03:02 AM

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Lol, are you kidding me? The tank's guns don't need a buff.... It's max gun gets excellent penetration...that combined with its insane top speed, and intensely trollish armor......no [editted] way. It needs a weakness..

If you can't play it as it is max, then you need to just uninstall...you are literally asking WG for the perfect most OP tank: Excellent Speed, Excellent Armor, Excellent Gun & Handling....   

Please...cry me a river kid...this tank is barely balanced as is, there is no need for a buff...and especially no need for another op soviet tank. 


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VonMiller58 #31 Posted 15 September 2016 - 03:04 AM

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View PostCptCheez, on 15 September 2016 - 02:43 AM, said:

 

Right, because the top gun actually has decent pen for its tier.  _34 and I were talking about the middle gun, which has nearly 20% less pen than the top gun.

 

My bad

 

If it really has that much more gun depression then it is probably a better choice

 

Many times I get to a spot and realize it is a no go because this Looong gun doesn't aim down at all, been trying to stay level or below reds


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Shadow__Lugia #32 Posted 15 September 2016 - 06:18 AM

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Reason it's much lower Dpm is because on pc, it's got scout matchmaking, so it's matched up like a tier 8 medium and can see tier 10s. On blitz, the highest it can see is tier 8. So this here is perfect for blitz

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View PostCptCheez, on 14 September 2016 - 06:30 PM, said:

 

Not to mention 18% lower pen...but what am I saying.  Everyone just spams gold ammo nowadays anyway, so what does pen even matter anymore?

 

yeah lol, left pen out for that exact reason. pen on second gun makes me think comet gun. not the best pen, but workable. and gold ammo is the new AP 

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1oldgrouch #34 Posted 15 September 2016 - 11:09 AM

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Sure, why not go ahead and buff it. They may just as well nerf all the American tanks while they are at it. That should fix things. This would sound stupid anywhere else. So is WoTB run by the United States Congress?
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pasdxd #35 Posted 15 September 2016 - 12:38 PM

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View PostBryoDoesGaming, on 14 September 2016 - 08:57 PM, said:

 

You have to stop treating light tanks like medium tanks that trade armor for speed. If your gun won't work, do something else.

Holds true for PC maybe, but in Blitz that's exactly what a light is: a medium which trades armor for speed. 

 


 


jibblett #36 Posted 15 September 2016 - 01:35 PM

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At least you only see +1 here. Pc Lttb is designed to face off against tier X. Apples and oranges, a lot of values were changed when porting over to blitz

Blartch #37 Posted 15 September 2016 - 02:10 PM

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Only 12 games in, but... this thing does not need a buff.  Of any kind.

Ookla_the_Mok #38 Posted 15 September 2016 - 02:41 PM

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As it stands, no buff necessary for the LTTB gun or any other component. I do think it should be able to mount a V-Stab as the inability to do so is surprising. The gun is inaccurate on the move, bloom is an issue, etc.... but accept some missed shots and continue to run and gun like a mad man. Once more people have the tank the stats may even out, but right now there is no way the LTTB deserves a buff. Heck, with top gun it even does OK on credits.

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