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LisencedProcreat #1 Posted 11 October 2016 - 04:56 PM

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Okay I'm sure I will be getting a lot of... shall we say weariness over this topic. however I have played in 21 battles on WoT Blitz and I have not been high level 1 time. not once. I was equilevel one time, but not once was I high level. I know 21 isn't a whole lot. But it is kind of ridiculous. It's making me want to quit, however to see if this is a bug or not, I will continue up to 100 battles. If I get into 100 battles without once being high level, is that enough to say this is a bug?

Targaryen22 #2 Posted 11 October 2016 - 05:02 PM

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Lol if you're 'equal' tier chances are your high tier. It just seems to depend on the tank you drive where in the lineup you appear on the team list. Something that is absolutely inconsequential btw
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LisencedProcreat #3 Posted 11 October 2016 - 05:03 PM

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in battle number 22 I was high level.....

LisencedProcreat #4 Posted 11 October 2016 - 05:04 PM

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I know equilevel is very much like being high level. But there is definitely a difference between the two.

Targaryen22 #5 Posted 11 October 2016 - 05:06 PM

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View PostLisencedProcreat, on 11 October 2016 - 05:04 PM, said:

I know equilevel is very much like being high level. But there is definitely a difference between the two.

 

eh. There was a much more significant difference back with the old +2/-2 mm they used to have implemented. When t7 tanks could see t9, and t8 see t10
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LisencedProcreat #6 Posted 11 October 2016 - 05:12 PM

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I have 4thousand battles in on xbox 360 version.I have 4 tier 8 tanks

soon to have the E75


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Targaryen22 #7 Posted 11 October 2016 - 05:15 PM

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View PostLisencedProcreat, on 11 October 2016 - 05:12 PM, said:

I have 4thousand battles in on xbox 360 version.I have 4 tier 8 tanks

 

congrats on the t8s. No idea if xbox has what I consider normal mm (+-2) but I assume it does so you should realize how much. Well. Less dynamic wotbs mm is. I frankly miss the +-2 mm. Made the matches more fun, caused me to e less aggressive and play more of a support role that I've long since killed thanks to never being more then one tier below my opposition. 
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Agreed.

 

I was "low level" in my 28581th battle.

 

Rigged MM indeed.



LisencedProcreat #9 Posted 11 October 2016 - 05:28 PM

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View PostTargaryen22, on 11 October 2016 - 05:15 PM, said:

 

congrats on the t8s. No idea if xbox has what I consider normal mm (+-2) but I assume it does so you should realize how much. Well. Less dynamic wotbs mm is. I frankly miss the +-2 mm. Made the matches more fun, caused me to e less aggressive and play more of a support role that I've long since killed thanks to never being more then one tier below my opposition. 

Xbox has +-2 but not until you get to tier 3 tanks. tiers 1 and 2 are +-1.
The reason for this is that there is a larger difference between tier one and tier two than between (for example) 5 and 6.
if you are in a low level stock tank you sometimes can't even damage some tanks at +1 tier in their weakest points at tier 1 and 2. being low level every game would make the game much more grindy than it needs to be


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acrisis #10 Posted 11 October 2016 - 05:34 PM

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IF you have several thousand games on xbox and worked your way up to tier eight, then what are you doing complaining after <24 games?! Seriously!! All that experience playing WOT ... and you're complaining about rigged MM? It is +-1 MM ... Simple mode. 

 

Just when I thought we had about seen it all on this forum. Nope. Back to square one. A WOT player with 4k games has to come out and say he's not TOP TIER enough in his first two dozen games. 

 

You have to be trolling us!

If not ... 


 

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SirStix #11 Posted 11 October 2016 - 05:36 PM

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View Post_stealy, on 11 October 2016 - 05:15 PM, said:

Agreed.

 

I was "low level" in my 28581th battle.

 

Rigged MM indeed.

 

*28581st. but yeah that's rigged.

LisencedProcreat #12 Posted 11 October 2016 - 05:38 PM

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View Postacrisis, on 11 October 2016 - 05:34 PM, said:

IF you have several thousand games on xbox and worked your way up to tier eight, then what are you doing complaining after <24 games?! Seriously!! All that experience playing WOT ... and you're complaining about rigged MM? It is +-1 MM ... Simple mode. 

 

Just when I thought we had about seen it all on this forum. Nope. Back to square one. A WOT player with 4k games has to come out and say he's not TOP TIER enough in his first two dozen games. 

 

You have to be trolling us!

If not ... 

I used the same account I have linked to my console. I didn't think it was unreasonable maybe they gave players with some experience in the game discriminatory matchmaking at least for a little while. 
It doesn't seem out of the ordinary to you to go 21 matches in a row being low level? I've never experienced this on console....
No reason to be an [edited] m8 :)


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LisencedProcreat #13 Posted 11 October 2016 - 05:42 PM

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View PostLisencedProcreat, on 11 October 2016 - 05:03 PM, said:

in battle number 22 I was high level.....

all you have to do is look at this and you can see there is no reason to say anything here anymore.



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View PostLisencedProcreat, on 11 October 2016 - 12:38 PM, said:

I used the same account I have linked to my console. I didn't think it was unreasonable maybe they gave players with some experience in the game discriminatory matchmaking at least for a little while. 
It doesn't seem out of the ordinary to you to go 21 matches in a row being low level? I've never experienced this on console....
No reason to be an [edited] m8 :)

 

​You are new here, so you get a pass in my book but this matchmaking stuff has become the battlecry of the potato lately. For those of us that have been playing since the inception of Blitz, the matchmaking has never been more "fair". New players will never have the joy of experiencing being 2 tiers down in a stock tank, or seeing an enemy team with 2 tier X tanks while your team has none. But this was commonplace up until about 6 months ago, so when players now complain about the matchmaking it does tend to rustle some jimmies here.

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View PostLisencedProcreat, on 11 October 2016 - 12:38 PM, said:

I used the same account I have linked to my console. I didn't think it was unreasonable maybe they gave players with some experience in the game discriminatory matchmaking at least for a little while. 
It doesn't seem out of the ordinary to you to go 21 matches in a row being low level? I've never experienced this on console....
No reason to be an [edited] m8 :)

 

No reason to start using bad words.

 

I just figured somebody with your experience level would just waltz right  through the low tiers up the trees. And not be complaining about unfair single tier matchmaking. 

 

MM in blitz has always been +-1 up to tier 4, 5 +2-1, etc

After a ton of outcry from players about 2MM and because WG wanted to increase player retention, they went 1MM for all.

 

Now you might think, that you'll be low tier, all same tier, high tier 33/33/33 ... but it has never been that way. Better get used to being low tier 50-75% of the time. 

 

 


 

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View PostSirStix, on 11 October 2016 - 12:36 PM, said:

 

*28581st. but yeah that's rigged.

 

Hmm... I only used "th" because "st" sounded weird...

 

I guess I need to study more :hiding:

 

 



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View Postacrisis, on 11 October 2016 - 06:17 PM, said:

 

No reason to start using bad words.

 

I just figured somebody with your experience level would just waltz right  through the low tiers up the trees. And not be complaining about unfair single tier matchmaking. 

 

MM in blitz has always been +-1 up to tier 4, 5 +2-1, etc

After a ton of outcry from players about 2MM and because WG wanted to increase player retention, they went 1MM for all.

 

Now you might think, that you'll be low tier, all same tier, high tier 33/33/33 ... but it has never been that way. Better get used to being low tier 50-75% of the time. 

 

 

I wasn't "complaining". I was legitimately concerned maybe I had encountered a bug. Maybe something wasn't right. Or maybe there is discriminitory matchmaking for players with experience. I found nothing currently on the forum that addressed these questions. Then you come in essentially flabbergasted at my questions. So I called you an [edited]. Rightfully so. barely even a cuss word, however you can't see it. you implied i'm either a troll or an idiot. Don't try to take the high road now buddy


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View Post_stealy, on 11 October 2016 - 06:39 PM, said:

 

Hmm... I only used "th" because "st" sounded weird...

 

I guess I need to study more :hiding:

 

 

 

twenty-eight thousand five hundred eighty-first VS twenty-eight thousand five hundred eighty-firth. I guess, maybe. Idk. Spell check didn't underline 'firth,' so I could be wrong.

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View Postacrisis, on 11 October 2016 - 05:34 PM, said:

IF you have several thousand games on xbox and worked your way up to tier eight, then what are you doing complaining after <24 games?! Seriously!! All that experience playing WOT ... and you're complaining about rigged MM? It is +-1 MM ... Simple mode. 

 

Just when I thought we had about seen it all on this forum. Nope. Back to square one. A WOT player with 4k games has to come out and say he's not TOP TIER enough in his first two dozen games. 

 

You have to be trolling us!

If not ... 

You never answered my question by the way. Does it seem out of the ordinary to you to go 21 games in a row being low level? 



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View PostLisencedProcreat, on 11 October 2016 - 10:52 AM, said:

You never answered my question by the way. Does it seem out of the ordinary to you to go 21 games in a row being low level? 

 

This totally depends on the player base and what tanks they're bringing to the queue.  If I notice this happening (and I'm not happy with playing low tier) I will move up a tier with my ride.  

 

Are you finding the switch from console to touch quite difficult?  I was looking at your stats- sometimes players from PC come over and sometimes they kill it on Blitz - and sometimes they don't.  I think the switch from WASD to touch isn't as easy as you might think.  You're one of a few console players who have come to Blitz... Using the controls involved in tanking on console looks even harder to me than keyboard/mouse.  That said, PS4's graphics are probably the best of all the platforms.


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