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[_Crusader6_]

herbie424, on 03 January 2018 - 01:13 PM, said:

So, I received the tank than but rarely play it.  First of all, I like to play Tiers IV and V more and secondly, the M-60 is not that good of a tank.  Pier X tanks make short work of it.

 

The M60 is arguably the best tier X med.  Which I think causes a lot of angst in the player base.

   Yes turret isn't quite as good as the M48A1 Patton, but the M60 has a better gun and an extra degree of gun depression, that can make the turret way better than the M48's if you employ it well.

 

 

[_Crusader6_]

TwistedMetal_, on 03 January 2018 - 11:27 AM, said:

The M60 was given to players who spent a SHEITE ton of money $$$ on the game Like me!

 

It wasn't though.

   If that WAS the case, WG could have said, hey yeah if you spent $2k on the game you got it.

  BUT - multiple accounts that had low game's and next to no premiums got it -- meaning they couldn't have spent the money - as their garage indicated nothing was there.

 

Some former WG employees offline have said it was a flawed algorithm in the award, I tend to believe that, as based on WG's history (invisible tanks, MM issues etc) it is the most likely aspect.

  EU had posted the WG "Official" Award criteria -- I had reposted it here, but it was scrubbed out - and I did not save a copy -- it has been wiped from EU too, and WG personnel have said they CANNOT talk about it.

 

 

 

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__Crusader6__, on 03 January 2018 - 07:27 AM, said:

 

Revenues are down for Blitz, it’s easy to see, and this was a cash grab. 

I mean who wants to buy Premiums or Premium Time now.  

 

 

idk crusader. Blitz fair 2 seems to be sucking in a lot of suckers with the loot crates. If blitz needed to grab in more cash, I think ribble's tone in his responses to such threads would be a bit more warming. But apparently the long term, loyal playerbase's contribution pales in comparison to everyone else's so they can essentially give us the finger and not care about it

[VikkoTheTusken]

ScumbagJuJu, on 03 January 2018 - 12:07 PM, said:

I love my M60... and my IS-6 Fearless

 

More importantly, we love you!

 

[NateDawg2k16]

RibbleStripe, on 03 January 2018 - 06:42 AM, said:

 

Just because unfortunately you were informed wrongly.

 

 

Our team didn't operate this forum. Once we noticed this thread and that miscommunication we clarified it. I took a couple of minutes. 

 

 

Why should the criteria be declassified? We don't disclose it regardless the region. 

To be honest i never understood this M60 hype. I guess everyone who gives a gift to someone else has the right not to explain the reasons for doing that.

 

Then disclose it to all regions. It deserves to be known why 40% lowlifes get it while dedicated players don't. 

 

But then again, you guys never do the logical thing

[wizo_]

RibbleStripe, on 03 January 2018 - 03:21 AM, said:

 

That part of the statement was not correct. We never excluded possibility of selling M60 in future and even told players about that on RU-server. Looks like there was a miscommunication between our offices.

 

"Technically" isn't the m60 not even being sold directly for real money, so therefore unlike the IS-6 Fearless goof up anyway?

[NICKEL_AND_DIME]

__Crusader6__, on 03 January 2018 - 08:27 AM, said:

I mean who wants to buy Premiums or Premium Time now.  

 

 

You mean they still actually sell premiums?  I thought they only sold gold and you buy the premiums or the tickets or the tokens or sigils or whatever name they place on some new currency (spare parts excluded, of course).

[john_bond_16_pc]

lol

[Motorbreath_]

The saddest part of all of this is that people are actually using their college savings or whipping out the credit card to dump $300 for the M60. I've been praying to the WG staff for an M60 to pop out in the supergame. No luck, but I did get a Type 59, so maybe they are listening?  

 

Spoiler

 RIBBLE DONAT M60 PLS 

 

Edited by theFANTASTICfox, 03 January 2018 - 10:38 PM.

[CDINGEY]

Will this never end???  Two Years and 139 Pages.... 

[smalljamalkamal]

CDINGEY, on 04 January 2018 - 04:25 AM, said:

Will this never end???  Two Years and 139 Pages.... 

 

No. 

It...

will...

never...

end...

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never...

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theFANTASTICfox, on 03 January 2018 - 04:37 PM, said:

The saddest part of all of this is that people are actually using their college savings or whipping out the credit card to dump $300 for the M60. I've been praying to the WG staff for an M60 to pop out in the supergame. No luck, but I did get a Type 59, so maybe they are listening?  

 

Spoiler

 RIBBLE DONAT M60 PLS 

 

 

if people are really blowing their college savings on a pixel tank, then there's a good chance they wouldn't get into a good one in the first place, so they're not really losing out on much there

[itsnotpersonal]

bumpity bump bump 

[Motorbreath_]

Lets see if this thread can hit 200 pages

[RibbleStripe]

iRaikkonen, on 03 January 2018 - 04:56 PM, said:

 

What about the IS-6 Fearless? I think everyone can agree no one actually knows the original M60 criteria but the Fearless was quite simple. Win Clan Wars 2. I played Clan Wars 2 and trained my [edited] off with my clan and another dozen to earn that. The one and only tank that you could win with SKILL and not with loot box rng or your moms credit card. Less than a year after the 83 people won their Fearless tanks, we were horrified to see the Fearless being sold for $75 (or whatever it was. Could have been $10,000, the point is the same). Not only could people who lost clan wars 2 but them, but people who DIDNT EVEN PLAY COULD BUY THEM. At the time there was a chance to do the right thing. Come out and say that there was a mistake, reclaim the tanks and refund the customers, but no. People that didn’t earn them got to keep them. The 83 of us banded together despite being in 5 different clans and we have still not been compensated. It’s honestly quite sad to think that of the few hundred tanks in this game, some free to buy and others not, that there was ONE exception to this rule. ONE glorious tank that said “I won this with my team and hard work”. The saddest thing is that it’s just an IS-6 with a camo. It’s not statistically different at all. I know. I have both. After going to Minsk and winning Las Vegas, I know how much war gaming respects its top tier players and how much you care about this game. Anyone who says otherwise is absolutely wrong. But I think the Fearless is an instance where the players who earned them have been wronged and it’s been over a year with not even as little as an apology

 

There was completely different case. Fearless was available for purchasing by mistake. We fixed it pretty quickly but unfortunately some players caught their chance to buy tank. I understand you are upset about it and you definitely have reasons to feel like that. It was our fault and i bring apologies to you and other Fearless holders. 

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RibbleStripe, on 05 January 2018 - 07:55 AM, said:

 

There was completely different case. Fearless was available for purchasing by mistake. We fixed it pretty quickly but unfortunately some players caught their chance to buy tank. I understand you are upset about it and you definitely have reasons to feel like that. It was our fault and i bring apologies to you and other Fearless holders. 

 

Kind of reminds me when on PC in RU sold the SU-76i "on accident"

[WipWapJaws]

RibbleStripe, on 05 January 2018 - 05:55 PM, said:

 

There was completely different case. Fearless was available for purchasing by mistake. We fixed it pretty quickly but unfortunately some players caught their chance to buy tank. I understand you are upset about it and you definitely have reasons to feel like that. It was our fault and i bring apologies to you and other Fearless holders. 

 

Ribble I dont think it was just an apology that was needed.  The Fearless that were sold by accident should have been removed from the garages of those who did not earn them and their money refunded.  You dont buy an Olympic gold medal, you earn it.

 

I dont often agree with IRaikkonen but he is bang on with this

 

The fact WG didnt remove the sold tanks IMO made them look week and show an attitude of "we will do the right thing by our players (unless it its too difficult and it might cost us some money)"

 

[RoadKutter]

WipWapJaws, on 05 January 2018 - 02:08 AM, said:

 

Ribble I dont think it was just an apology that was needed.  The Fearless that were sold by accident should have been removed from the garages of those who did not earn them and their money refunded.  You dont buy an Olympic gold medal, you earn it.

 

I dont often agree with IRaikkonen but he is bang on with this

 

The fact WG didnt remove the sold tanks IMO made them look week and show an attitude of "we will do the right thing by our players (unless it its too difficult and it might cost us some money)"

 

 

Yeah, but if you bought for hard cash and then they took it away I’m sure you would be screaming bloody murder. That is the reason people got them back, yes they did take them away. You can’t sell something and then change your mind and replace it with something else. Theft, bait and switch..... list goes on, and that’s why people who bought their Fearless got it back.

[VikkoTheTusken]

If the Fearless incident resulted the way it did, where is the complete and thorough reimbursement of all equipment lost due to spare parts?(and subsequent apology like above) I still haven't been able to kit out all of my favorite tanks. Sure, I play them and do well in them but - I'm still at a handicap and a burden on my team.

[WipWapJaws]

RoadKutter, on 05 January 2018 - 11:55 PM, said:

 

Yeah, but if you bought for hard cash and then they took it away I’m sure you would be screaming bloody murder. That is the reason people got them back, yes they did take them away. You can’t sell something and then change your mind and replace it with something else. Theft, bait and switch..... list goes on, and that’s why people who bought their Fearless got it back.

 

Not really, because I had got something I should not have.  its not theft, bait and switch at all.  It was for once an honest mistake and those who purchased the Fearless new they were buying something that be on sale.  I saw all the threads on here "quick the Fearless is on sale, buy it before they realise"  

 

Im guessing the only reason your defending it is because you are one of those who bought it and feel entitled to keep it.......